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    HGH or GH Releasing Peptides: Which would you choose?

    My NP just asked me if I'd like to go on HGH. My jaw dropped and I said I'd think about it. I'm thinking Ipamorelin and Sermorelin would be better because they stimulate the body's own release of GH and don't shut down the hypothalamus and pituitary. I told him about these peptides but he didn't know anything about them.

    I don't know anything about dosing HGH and I'd like to learn more. I'm learning a good deal about peptides now. Would love to hear about the pros and cons of each and your opinions. If you had an even choice with equal availability, which way would you go?

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    I would choose HGH over Sermorelin or any peptides. Ive done quite a few peptides in the past to increase natural HGH such as IGF-1, IGF-6, CJC-1295 w/Dac and wo/dac. Ive also done real rx HGH

    Bring on the rx HGH... Of course price may be an issue but bang for the buck HGH wins hands down in my book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    I would choose HGH over Sermorelin or any peptides. Ive done quite a few peptides in the past to increase natural HGH such as IGF-1, IGF-6, CJC-1295 w/Dac and wo/dac. Ive also done real rx HGH

    Bring on the rx HGH... Of course price may be an issue but bang for the buck HGH wins hands down in my book.
    Agreed ^^

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    Thanks guys. I'd be curious about cost too. But my one big question: Since HGH shuts you down, isn't it "for life" just like TRT is?

    Can you tell me about HGH dosing?

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    Nope. Its not the same.

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    I do believe your doc couldn't prescribe you HGH unless your pituitary is so broken it doesn't matter how much you stimulate it. It took me over a year to get my prescription HGH, please take the prescription.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buttslinger View Post
    I do believe your doc couldn't prescribe you HGH unless your pituitary is so broken it doesn't matter how much you stimulate it. It took me over a year to get my prescription HGH, please take the prescription.
    Thanks for the advice. Thankfully, my pituitary is not broken. Just have age related hypogonadism. Unless I misread his comment completely, I'll surly think further about and consider his question : "Have you thought about HGH?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by buttslinger View Post
    I do believe your doc couldn't prescribe you HGH unless your pituitary is so broken it doesn't matter how much you stimulate it. It took me over a year to get my prescription HGH, please take the prescription.
    Not true, if he can show you are just producing less than what you should (similar to low T) he can prescribe it. I had an RX for over a year but finances got tight and I let it lapse and he has since retired and was also over 1hr away. I'm considering looking again soon for another clinic.

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    The negative feedback from HGH supplementation is nothing like it is with androgens. It only temporarily decreases GH secretion, but the pituitary rapidly secretes more when you stop. And it doesn't affect the hypothalamus, nor gonadotropin production.

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    If you can get an RX for HGH go for the HGH - it's not even comparable to peptides. I'd almost go as far as to say it's like comparing steak to green beans, both are food but which one would you rather have?

    And the guys are right regarding what they've said about pituitary function as well as there not needing to be a broken pituitary to get a legal RX. A lot of doctors prescribe it on the basis of anti-aging. Although there are plenty of law makers who have been and are persuaded to make this illegal but it's not at the moment.

    Depending on the brand, Omnitrope 5.8mg is going to run $300-$400, Norditropin 10mg for $850-$1000. As you can see, that's pretty pricy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalject View Post
    If you can get an RX for HGH go for the HGH - it's not even comparable to peptides. I'd almost go as far as to say it's like comparing steak to green beans, both are food but which one would you rather have?

    And the guys are right regarding what they've said about pituitary function as well as there not needing to be a broken pituitary to get a legal RX. A lot of doctors prescribe it on the basis of anti-aging. Although there are plenty of law makers who have been and are persuaded to make this illegal but it's not at the moment.

    Depending on the brand, Omnitrope 5.8mg is going to run $300-$400, Norditropin 10mg for $850-$1000. As you can see, that's pretty pricy.
    Thats exactly what I was using. Ohh the good ole days. Hopefully soon I will find another clinic when I have time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    Not true, if he can show you are just producing less than what you should (similar to low T) he can prescribe it. I had an RX for over a year but finances got tight and I let it lapse and he has since retired and was also over 1hr away. I'm considering looking again soon for another clinic.
    I have to drive over an hour to get mine. Most insurance companies demand pretty hard evidence to pony up the dough for HGH coverage, otherwise every old bag over 50 would be taking it. For one thing, it helps keeping your hair from going gray. And is like a youth tonic.
    I'm no doctor, but if your growth hormone output is so low it requires supplementation, then that means it's broken.

    When I started in 2006 I got a ninety day supply of humatrope for $35. It's now gone up to $105. My Blue Cross costs me $186.14/month through work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buttslinger View Post
    I have to drive over an hour to get mine. Most insurance companies demand pretty hard evidence to pony up the dough for HGH coverage, otherwise every old bag over 50 would be taking it. For one thing, it helps keeping your hair from going gray. And is like a youth tonic.
    I'm no doctor, but if your growth hormone output is so low it requires supplementation, then that means it's broken.

    When I started in 2006 I got a ninety day supply of humatrope for $35. It's now gone up to $105. My Blue Cross costs me $186.14/month through work.
    This is interesting. At that price I would definitely do it. What tests do you run to determine that?

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    Lovbyts, a doctor I'm aware of where I live will prescribe 1-2 units of omnitrope a day for patients who he believes need it (obtained through blood work and interview). However, it costs just under $800.00 for a 1 month supply at 1 unit a day. That's outrageous.

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    I'm in the minority here but I would try cjc1295 no dac and GHRP2 or ipam first. I went from a low of 106 IGF-1 to 337 in 8 months. I'm dosing now cjc 3-4 times a day 120 mcg and ghrp 2 3-4 times a day 175 mcg. It's about $125 a month

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beethoven View Post
    What tests do you run to determine that?
    An Arginine Stimulation Test is probably the most effective. GH serum is not accurate as it's just a snapshot in time.

    http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/003377.htm

    2Sox if your insurance will cover it, jump on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    An Arginine Stimulation Test is probably the most effective. GH serum is not accurate as it's just a snapshot in time.

    Growth hormone stimulation test: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia

    2Sox if your insurance will cover it, jump on it.
    Don't have a clue about insurance yet. I have Medicare with GHI/Emblem Health as secondary. VERY good coverage here in NYC but I'm sure I'll need documentation to prove need. I'm gonna call my NP tomorrow to see what the story is. Maybe he knows something I don't. Crossing my fingers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Sox View Post
    Don't have a clue about insurance yet. I have Medicare with GHI/Emblem Health as secondary. VERY good coverage here in NYC but I'm sure I'll need documentation to prove need. I'm gonna call my NP tomorrow to see what the story is. Maybe he knows something I don't. Crossing my fingers.
    Good luck. People I know that have used it call it the true fountain of youth.

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    Well it looks like the NP was only asking my opinion of HGH not offering to treat me with it. Too bad. Nevertheless, I'm grateful for your responses.

    I'd love to find a doctor in my area who'd treat. Meanwhile, I'm seriously considering those peptides.

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    That's weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    That's weird.
    I would say so. Strange way to make conversation. It went something like this: When we spoke at your office a few days ago you mentioned HGH. How can I receive treatment? Reply: Oh, I was just talking. Me: Can you treat me? Reply: No, we don't do that here. Me: No one in your office receives treatment? Reply: No.

    End of weird story.

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    So it's clear that since I cannot get HGH, I'll likely be doing peptides. A question to those who have gone down that road:
    How long before you start feeling the effects? And how would you describe them? Thanks.

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