160mg a week is barely doing anything for me

[Santana1]

Guys please let me know your thoughts.

I've been on 160mg a week of T from my clinic, I've lost weight and gained some muscle, I'm definitely better then when I started, but I can get this same fat loss and added muscle probably without the T.

Will I see some good gains soon? Otherwise I'm gonna quit it. I do have more energy and my sex drive has doubled but I do not care about that, I want to see good muscle gains and haven't yet.

They will not give me any larger dose then 160mg, they said I am much better off now at 700T.. I was 302 when I went in, but like I said I can look like this naturally from eating good and dieting, I've done it before.

I was expecting a lot more, I'm on steroids ! Wtf

[Metalject]

It sounds like you've fallen prey to unrealistic expectations. Here's the highlights:

1. Testosterone and steroids in general do not work like the general public thinks they do.

2. The purpose of TRT is to restore your testosterone levels to the optimal level. The Purpose of TRT is not to "Juice You Up."

3. Testosterone doesn't cause you to burn fat.

4. TRT itself is a process, patience is important.

5. There is not some sort of drug induced feeling that comes with taking testosterone. Again, that's general public nonsense.

It sounds like you probably need TRT if your levels are naturally 300, and they're only going to get worse as you age. But, and this could be due to a misunderstanding, you are attempting TRT for the wrong reasons.

[Lifted1]

you could take 1g of testosterone per week and you still wouldn't build muscle tissue without hard ass work and a good diet. if you're not gaining on 160mg/wk, you're doing something wrong.

[marcus300]

I think your idea what TRT is going to do for you is confused with a cycle of steroids ,
look at your diet and training for gains
TRT is a replacement dose for your natural test

[almostgone]

I can almost guarantee that if you quit your TRT, you will regret it. If you think you were low before, I'd wager you would be even lower than that now w/o replacement T.

[hawk14dl]

Welcome to the trt forum.

Like others have said, trt is not the same as a cycle. None of us take trt to build muscle, we take it because we have to. We started because we were tired all the time, or low sex drive, maybe even e.d. You have a harder time building muscle with low t.

Test replacement is for life. You went on because you were low. Being low is actually dangerous and bad for your overall health. This is a medication.

What you want is a cycle. Can't blame you. But for that, you'll have to get the supplies yourself (illegally). . We also recommend being on trt for 1 year before your first blast. There's a lot going on with your body right now, increased hormones. . Receptors that aren't used to the hormones, etc. Let your body reach homeostasis, THEN go for a cycle.

Marathon, not a sprint!

[jimmyinkedup]

I agree with what most have posted. TRT is not a cycle. It sounds like it has and is doing for you exactly what it should. Your expectations are based on a cycle, not TRT. I also agree that if you stop and go back to where you were, you will be very unhappy. Of course the choice is yous, just my opinion.

[jasondd1]

How long have you been on trt? Others can correct me if I'm wrong but can't it take up to a year to maximize results?

I'm also curious to know what your other numbers are. Free test for one, e2 t3, t4 rt3 tsh, thyroid antibodies etc for others.

[Low Testosterone]

I can't argue with anything anyone has said. They are correct, it doesn't sound like you're issue is related to your TRT but more along the lines of what you expect TRT to do.
We deal with this type of thing quite a bit and we really do try to give people a thorough understanding of what TRT is, it's purpose, what it can do and to provide realistic expectations. Unfortunately, often people have an ingrained notion that's already, well just that, ingrained. I speak to men regularly who are frustrated that they haven't lost enough weight while on TRT or "gains" as you guys like to put it haven't been what they hoped for. When people start talking this why, not always but often it's very difficult to help them understand. They know they're using a steroid (steroid being a very general term by the way, about as general as the word "food") and as such expect steroid results, AKA, what they've seen in movies, on TV or in gossip talk around the gym. Not going to happen.

I'd go as far as to say many steroid users that are cycling or using performance level doses have very warped or unrealistic expectations, at least they often do. I can't tell you (lost count) how many men of all ages I've talked to who have used large doses of numerous steroids and they don't look like what you'd think a typical steroid user would - meaning, they don't look like the monster the media often portrays them to be. There are so many factors that come into play when it comes to big "gains" (such a funny word, in my opinion, very broriffic) that are far beyond mere steroid use itself, but perhaps that's another topic altogether.

[Santana1]

Thanks guys.
One thing that TRT did to me in 12 weeks is I lost all my fat, I mean all of it,
Problem is now my whole body is smaller, muscles lost size too, I understand that TRT is not to gain big muscles, it's for low T and well being, I do know that now, but when I started I thought I would gain mass muscle, Its the best steroid out there, and even though my dose is only 160 it's like doing 200 mg of gear because I heard gear is not as potent as the TRT T, so I thought I would gain a lot, maybe I need to wait longer , and up my food intake.

Id rather be patient doing 160 at clinic and be monitored then doing a cycle of street junk of 200-250 and no supervision, I heard less is more with Roids so ill be patient, so far I look great, just want to be bigger.

Here's a photo of me before the TRT AND AFTER..
These photos are about 6 months apart.. Not 12 weeks.
I do not have a photo from 12 weeks ago when I started but I was still pretty fat. I wanna get up to 220 and stay under 10% fat

[Santana1]

I asked clinic today if they would up my T of 160mg because I was losing too much weight, she laughed at me and said no, and you should be happy with your results, then she asked about my testes, lol, She asked if they hurt and I said no, do you want to see them.. She was hot! She laughed and said no Jimmy I do not need to see them but let me know if they hurt. She also gave me some very bad news, she said I have to be tested again for T count and she has a feeling that they will probly have to lower my dose because I will be very high.

She said in 5 years she's never seen anyone respond so well as I did, that's nice compliment man but I just keep getting skinnier, if they drop my dose I'm gonna drop the clinic..f*** that. not fair, other guys are getting 160 for months!
I worked hard in gym and I cant have them dropping my dose down to 120 just because I responded well, then I would be regressing right? Less dose less muscle?

[almostgone]

No sir, not how it works. I'm on a not too good TRT due to health history and I'll leave it at that, but my dose is 200mg every 2 weeks. I'm 50, slowly dropping fat, and building muscle.
Now that you're on replacement T, your gains will largely be determined by how hard you work when you lift, your diet, and your ability to recover/ build tissue.
When it comes to TRT, sometimes upping the dose does nothing but give you a boatload of side effects to contend with.
Read through some.of the threads and you'll see guys that have had to titrate their dose downward to find their sweet spot.
Honestly @ 12 weeks you're just getting started. Adjustments will depend on your lab values, how you feel, and the protocol of the practitioner.
I was started on a REALLY low.dose and had to go through labs every 3 months for 6 months before any increase was made.

[Baxter35]

Thanks guys.
One thing that TRT did to me in 12 weeks is I lost all my fat, I mean all of it,
Problem is now my whole body is smaller, muscles lost size too, I understand that TRT is not to gain big muscles, it's for low T and well being, I do know that now, but when I started I thought I would gain mass muscle, Its the best steroid out there, and even though my dose is only 160 it's like doing 200 mg of gear because I heard gear is not as potent as the TRT T, so I thought I would gain a lot, maybe I need to wait longer , and up my food intake.

Id rather be patient doing 160 at clinic and be monitored then doing a cycle of street junk of 200-250 and no supervision, I heard less is more with Roids so ill be patient, so far I look great, just want to be bigger.

Here's a photo of me before the TRT AND AFTER..
These photos are about 6 months apart.. Not 12 weeks.
I do not have a photo from 12 weeks ago when I started but I was still pretty fat. I wanna get up to 220 and stay under 10% fat

Please lord let this not be another troll. You say you've lost all your size including losing all your muscle, then you post before/after pics with tremendous muscular development. You're after pic looks like someone who has obviously spent years perfecting there training and diet, yet you speak like someone who has no clue about it. I really hope your not just messing with us, and good luck to you.

[jimmyinkedup]

Thanks guys.
One thing that TRT did to me in 12 weeks is I lost all my fat, I mean all of it,
Problem is now my whole body is smaller, muscles lost size too, I understand that TRT is not to gain big muscles, it's for low T and well being, I do know that now, but when I started I thought I would gain mass muscle, Its the best steroid out there, and even though my dose is only 160 it's like doing 200 mg of gear because I heard gear is not as potent as the TRT T, so I thought I would gain a lot, maybe I need to wait longer , and up my food intake.

Id rather be patient doing 160 at clinic and be monitored then doing a cycle of street junk of 200-250 and no supervision, I heard less is more with Roids so ill be patient, so far I look great, just want to be bigger.

Here's a photo of me before the TRT AND AFTER..
These photos are about 6 months apart.. Not 12 weeks.
I do not have a photo from 12 weeks ago when I started but I was still pretty fat. I wanna get up to 220 and stay under 10% fat

Are you kidding me? This is unreal progress in a short time. You should be thrilled.

[Baxter35]

Damnit, I just realized you're the same dude from the "215lb monster" thread. In that one you say you've made massive gains in a matter of weeks, now you say you've lost everything including muscle. This is so stupid. I hope you're enjoying yourself.

[Santana1]

hi Baxter, ya I lost 9lbs since then, no joke.

[Simon1972]

Here's a photo of me before the TRT AND AFTER..
These photos are about 6 months apart.. Not 12 weeks.
I do not have a photo from 12 weeks ago when I started but I was still pretty fat. I wanna get up to 220 and stay under 10% fat

Based on this photo alone i call B.S .

never heard anyone complain about losing fat while building muscle- you sir are trolling.
You haven't lost any muscle. You have lost the fat around and in between the muscle fibers. Get used to looking better and stop worrying about size. Eat more food if you want to get big. Fresh air alone won't do it.

[GSXRvi6]

This thread is BS - smells like marketing for TRT

[EquilibriumZ]

you are losing muscle cuz u arent eating enough