Testosterone article by Dr. Gordon

**kelkel** · 12-20-2014, 07:58 PM

Short read:

Testosterone Deficiency The Hidden Disease by E. Barry Gordon, M.D.

**2Sox** · 12-20-2014, 09:31 PM

I had been to Gordon's office for treatment early on. He is a great advocate for TRT and very passionate. Unfortunately, his protocol had been very old school - large doses every two weeks. I believe his practice is coming around to recognize smaller, weekly doses. (I revealed to his NP that I dose daily small doses of T, along with hCG - which I get overseas. In our conversations together he mentioned that he might consider doing this for his own treatment. Good news.) Gordon still does not believe in treating with hCG. I have a feeling that in time things will change there. His practice is HUGE. My feeling is that with the ease of self education on forums such as this one, it's inevitable with the patient feed back he must getting.

**clarky.** · 12-21-2014, 09:27 AM

That was a good read kel.

**Beethoven** · 12-21-2014, 10:06 AM

Good read as always Kel.

**2Sox** · 12-21-2014, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by clarky.

That was a good read kel.

I agree. This is an excellent read. For those interested, Gordon had published a book by the same name which goes into much detail regarding the article above. I'd rank it alongside Shippen's.

**Beethoven** · 12-21-2014, 01:09 PM

I find it interesting that heart events are now often blamed on TRT yet the possible ailments from low t don't make any headlines.

**reporich** · 12-21-2014, 11:09 PM

I like simple and to the point!

**Lifted1** · 12-22-2014, 12:00 AM

although it's very generalized, he makes some good points.

**Chicagotarsier** · 12-22-2014, 01:45 AM

Not many people are coming into an office to pay for a shot 3x a week. Who has the time for that? Not many doctors are going to prescript you to do it at home...who wants to absorb that type of risk? Nothing wrong with proper ester once a month shots for TrT. Cyp and E and prop are all not preferred substances because each and every incursion into the body is a chance for infection and....under the insurance policies...it holds more risk to the hospital or physician. If a person is just wanting to do trt after they figure out their number the very very long esters would be the preferred way from the physician naturally. That does not equate to profit. SO why would any doctor want to manage hrt people? They do not...hence why Endos are stupid to hrt on average. Endos are there to treat diabetes lol.

Originally Posted by 2Sox

I had been to Gordon's office for treatment early on. He is a great advocate for TRT and very passionate. Unfortunately, his protocol had been very old school - large doses every two weeks. I believe his practice is coming around to recognize smaller, weekly doses. (I revealed to his NP that I dose daily small doses of T, along with hCG - which I get overseas. In our conversations together he mentioned that he might consider doing this for his own treatment. Good news.) Gordon still does not believe in treating with hCG. I have a feeling that in time things will change there. His practice is HUGE. My feeling is that with the ease of self education on forums such as this one, it's inevitable with the patient feed back he must getting.

**2Sox** · 12-22-2014, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by Chicagotarsier

Not many people are coming into an office to pay for a shot 3x a week. Who has the time for that? Not many doctors are going to prescript you to do it at home...who wants to absorb that type of risk? Nothing wrong with proper ester once a month shots for TrT. Cyp and E and prop are all not preferred substances because each and every incursion into the body is a chance for infection and....under the insurance policies...it holds more risk to the hospital or physician. If a person is just wanting to do trt after they figure out their number the very very long esters would be the preferred way from the physician naturally. That does not equate to profit. SO why would any doctor want to manage hrt people? They do not...hence why Endos are stupid to hrt on average. Endos are there to treat diabetes lol.

What you are saying here is not at all clear. It seems to me that your post is filled with lots of generalizations and opinions. So what is it that you are trying to express exactly?

**APIs** · 12-22-2014, 10:20 AM

Good read, but he's still a quack if he is dosing people every 2 weeks...

**2Sox** · 12-22-2014, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by APIs

Good read, but he's still a quack if he is dosing people every 2 weeks...

One might surely come to that conclusion. But I'd be curious to know how I'd be treated if I came into his office today - and with the education I have now. As they say, things change.