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03-01-2015, 05:59 PM #1New Member
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18 years old, testosterone in the 200's go on TRT? bloodwork in post
Hi guys.
Basically, my questions are, as I'm exhausted from almost 1 and a half year of waiting time, I might finally get the opportunity to go on TRT. My questions are what other options do I have (blood tests I should look into for the rooot cause)?
Stats
Age 18
Height 178cm/5'11
Weight 74kg/167lbs
Bf 17-18%
Symptoms:
No erections for 2-3 years
Successively development of depression (just realised I've been feeling down for a looong time)
No energy
Felling like a zombie
No gains in the gym, despite consistent dieting and training (have logged everything so can find it if needed)
Don't find joy in things I used to enjoy
Social anxiety?? Alot more difficult to talk to people, even my childhood friends and family members it just feels off,
These are all the top of my head.
Bloodwork from 2014 april to 2015, all tests were taken 8-10AM morning
total t: 369ng/dl, 433ng/dl, 343ng/dl, 317ng/dl, 285ng/dl
SHBG: 18nmol/L, 15nmol/L, 14nmol/L
TSH: 3,2miU/L, 3,3miU/L (0,4-3,7)
Free T4: 22pmol/L (12-22)
Prolactin: 714miU/L (afternoon), 138miU/L (morning) (65-400)
LH:5,2IU/L, 6,6IU/L, 4,8IUL (iU1,5 – 9,3)
FSH:1,5IU/L, 1,6IU/L, 1,3IU/L (1,5-13)
P-gluclose: 5,3nmol/L, 7,2nmol/l, 5,3nmol/L (3,3-5,6)
B-HbA1c(IFCC) 32nmol/mol (27-42)
B-hemoglobin:153g/L, 161g/L (110-160)
B-EVF: *0,50 (no reference found)
Estradiol: 19,5pg/ml
Vitamin D 27ng/ML (10-80ng/ml)
So my questions are what should I look into more?
How bad of an idea would TRT be at my age? I will have an appointment with my doctor in 1 month, and if my test show same results I am fairly confident I will be offered the opportunity go on TRT. I've waited 1 whole year and I don't know how long I can go like this.
Appreciate any help
Thanks.
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03-01-2015, 07:30 PM #2
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03-01-2015, 07:37 PM #3
Not an expert but what about his hemo?
Op have you cycled?
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I'm no expert either but your thyroid is also high(hypothyroidism causes hypogonadism)... As Kel stated Prolactin is high as well!
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03-01-2015, 10:07 PM #5
In addition to the above, it would be a good idea to start supplementing Vitamin D3.
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03-01-2015, 10:14 PM #6
Both of you guys are correct and why I said step 1. Further thyroid investigation should be done. Op, a more modern scale for TSH is .3 - 3.0 but to dig deeper we'd really need beyond just FT4. Think FT4, FT3, RT3 and Antibodies. And don't panic over the thought of an MRI for a pituitary adenoma. They're not all that uncommon. I've had one for years and it's what put me on TRT. Main thing is to rule it in or out.
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03-02-2015, 05:08 PM #7New Member
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Hi.
For starters i've not used any form of roids, the doctor suspected this too and claimed there could be anabolics in my whey and VITAMINS lol. Now im on a 3 month wait..i really think she is clueless
I will look into the thyroid, frankly the doctors in this country are idiots within endocrinology. I will do my best to get a ft3 test and antibodies. As far as MRI i yhink it would be impossible with this doctors
Can a sunclinical hypothyroidism reallly mess up T levels? Like couldnfixing it put me back to 600-700? Im just afraid it would raise me a few units and then i would be declared OK and refused help
THX guys im thankful for the knowledgeable advice here.
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03-02-2015, 09:02 PM #8
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05-20-2015, 02:52 PM #9New Member
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so i've been on a revisit to the doctor and also on a call with one of the only andrologists in the country. they both concluded that my symptoms are definitely not because of my testosterone and that my body most likely utilizes testosterone better and that everyone has different levels. the levels have to be under 8nmol for you to be considered for trt. 8-12 is grey zone if u have symptoms but i have symptoms but they say my symptoms is not because of this. can i ask you something guys, would it be not too far fatched to believe that the way i feel in my body and mind are because of the testosterone? doctors says its 100% not that and im beginning to doubt myself
i've been referred back to my familydoctor for evaluation of the high RGB count. i dont know man it's been 1 and a half year since i first stepped into the doctor and told him my problems and i've just been back and forth. 1 and a half year of waiting for a 10 minute call saying no you definitely dont have low testosterone and your symptoms are not because of it. i dont know i just feel ****ing broke my last shimmer of hope just collapsed man.
i look into private doctors but i dont have alot of cash and there are no private doctors specialized in mens helath in this country
how dangerous would it be to self administer with high EVF and RGB and without blood work monitoring? i am scared of admniister myself and getting a stroke and livingworse than i am, frankly im not sure if i would have the balls too.
i dont know guys man i feel like its over, you know my dream is to just train get fit look good find a gf again make cash be happy and live a normal life you know, but it feels like its ****ingcrushed. i cant describe how down i feel. i cant imagine going another year like this
if there is anyone that know a doctor and i know the chances are slim in Sweden please pm me
im sorry if this post is just a rant of mess but i just feel like i needed to writeLast edited by imgettingup; 05-20-2015 at 02:54 PM.
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