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    Australian TrT

    Hi guys,
    From Australia and just need some advice with TrT.
    Now in Aus the total testosterone range is 8.3-30.2 (thats 225-725 Free test)
    I've had 3 tests now that have all indicated that I am at 7.4-7.6 (175-198 Free test). The first endo I saw Fobed it off as I am too young at 26 and I wouldn't be able to have kids if I was treated, nothing else was really said on the subject :/ at that point I had no idea what to do.
    So after that I went to a sports medicine clinic and he was more than happy to help me but in stead of doing some sort of trt he put me on Sarms , cjc/ghrp6 and hcg ............. that didn't go down to well ether after 3 months and no change. so I've gone to another Endo (this time a woman from a great background in the field) long story short, tests show that everything is running as normal, all hormone lvls are where they should be but my total test is still at 7.4, she says it is most likely a gland issue and wants me to get an MRI to see if there any discrepancy's. The kicker is though, thanks to new laws passed the Level range for TrT has been lowerd from 8.0 to 6 and under. So If it isn't a gland issue I'm left with very little options
    any advice on what I can do ?

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    try the A5M website- once you find a dr there they will be more receptive you will find though that laws have changed and you will still be given a referal to an endo to get TRT.

    work with your dr- you can always go on Private script ( non PBS) but finding a dr that has your main interest at heart helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon1972 View Post
    try the A5M website- once you find a dr there they will be more receptive you will find though that laws have changed and you will still be given a referal to an endo to get TRT.

    work with your dr- you can always go on Private script ( non PBS) but finding a dr that has your main interest at heart helps.
    Thank you kind sir, I've found a doc close to me and I'll call them tomorrow and see how I go The people on here are truly gentleman and scholars.

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    I know nothing about the healthcare system in Australia but when you say that a law was passed lowering the bottom of the treatment range to 6.0 nmol/L, does that literally mean that it's illegal for a doctor to treat a patient who's testosterone is above that level? Or just that it will only be covered by insurance if it meets that criteria?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chauffeur View Post
    I know nothing about the healthcare system in Australia but when you say that a law was passed lowering the bottom of the treatment range to 6.0 nmol/L, does that literally mean that it's illegal for a doctor to treat a patient who's testosterone is above that level? Or just that it will only be covered by insurance if it meets that criteria?
    Short answer Yes....... it is illegal doe a doctor to persrcibe it.

    It basically means no doctor will touch you (especially when I'm only 26), but if you do Qualify for treatment "medicare" will also reduce the overall cost of HRT. Something in the range of 1/2. but it is very hard to even find a doctor that knows anything about TRT let alone one that is willing to help. finnally found one that isn't a complete twat and has at least given indication that it could be a gland issue (if it is a gland issue I will Qualify), only problem with that is I've had to go through the private system to find the help. spent more than $1000 this week alone with Seeing said endo, MRI and The next appointment.
    kind of tired of it actually. just want it to be over already.

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    Yes the levels in Aus have changed to a ftest of 6 which is stupid whats the diff between 6 and 8; this is mostly yo restrict Gps prescribing; so get another referral to a different Endo; and be sure to describe your energy levels, your libido and any depression you have felt; make sure you give a good indication of these; because a good endo will know that borderline shouldn't matter. Which state sre you in Qld?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yettibecsuse
    Yes the levels in Aus have changed to a ftest of 6 which is stupid whats the diff between 6 and 8; this is mostly yo restrict Gps prescribing; so get another referral to a different Endo; and be sure to describe your energy levels, your libido and any depression you have felt; make sure you give a good indication of these; because a good endo will know that borderline shouldn't matter. Which state sre you in Qld?
    Victoria mate,
    Had my MRI yesterday. Get the results on Tuesday.
    Fingers crossed it's good news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xphanial View Post
    Short answer Yes....... it is illegal doe a doctor to persrcibe it.

    It basically means no doctor will touch you (especially when I'm only 26), but if you do Qualify for treatment "medicare" will also reduce the overall cost of HRT. Something in the range of 1/2. but it is very hard to even find a doctor that knows anything about TRT let alone one that is willing to help. finnally found one that isn't a complete twat and has at least given indication that it could be a gland issue (if it is a gland issue I will Qualify), only problem with that is I've had to go through the private system to find the help. spent more than $1000 this week alone with Seeing said endo, MRI and The next appointment.
    kind of tired of it actually. just want it to be over already.
    Thanks for clearing that up for me. Sounds like a real pain in the ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chauffeur
    I know nothing about the healthcare system in Australia but when you say that a law was passed lowering the bottom of the treatment range to 6.0 nmol/L, does that literally mean that it's illegal for a doctor to treat a patient who's testosterone is above that level? Or just that it will only be covered by insurance if it meets that criteria?
    It means if ur under 6 government will pay for ur gear, otherwise u will have to pay for urself, my total test level was from 7-13, didn't even bother get help from a physician most of them don't want to help. I went for a anti ageing straight away they put me on test e when they saw my previous blood work, everything all good, test e,AI, HCG even add in 40mg/day Anavar for my TRT protocol. Only problem is consulting fee is expensive ($500 first session), but it's good to get test from a pharmacy instead of gym

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    Quote Originally Posted by edmondle View Post
    It means if ur under 6 government will pay for ur gear, otherwise u will have to pay for urself, my total test level was from 7-13, didn't even bother get help from a physician most of them don't want to help. I went for a anti ageing straight away they put me on test e when they saw my previous blood work, everything all good, test e,AI, HCG even add in 40mg/day Anavar for my TRT protocol. Only problem is consulting fee is expensive ($500 first session), but it's good to get test from a pharmacy instead of gym
    are you down in Vic Edmondle ?

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