Arimadex Dosage

[bedada]

My Estradiol is 88pg and the top is 39. Increase Dim detox from 100mg a day to 200mg a day. My test is 1160 and I'm only taking a baby dose (50mg week). My hrt doctor wanted me to lower my test dosage to 40mg and not take arimadex, but I did not take her advice. I went to my md and got arimadex. She told me to take .5mg everyday. I am very very sensitive to medication. Small doses of everything I take work for me, so I'm thinking .25 every other day. I am still taking 50mg a week of test injectables once a week.

Feedback on taking 200mg dim and .25 arimadex every other day? It is very hard to cut these tablets since they are 1mg.

Thanks

[rplante7]

Try to keep all your questions in a single post. That way the experts on this forum (not me) can link all of your info to more easily help you. You need to provide more back ground info on your situation. Why are you on TRT? What were your blood test levels before you started TRT? IMHO 0.25 mg of arimidex every other day is still too much but you have not given enough back ground info for anyone to give you guidance

[jimmyinkedup]

I think .25mg of dex EOD will be too much on that low dose of test. I predict you will end up crashing your e2, and that is not fun. See if you can do .25mg E3D and start there.

[kelkel]

Bedada remember to test your E2 with a Sensitive Assay before you make a dosing decisions with adex. The difference can be considerably higher with estradiol as compared to the sensitive assay.

[Baxter35]

From your other thread, I think you should talk to your doc about a second test to see where you are at your trough. 1160 measured 3 days post injection will likely be much lower if measured on day 7 and if you make adjustments based on that short reading you could be setting yourself up for failure. Make sure your doc understands when you got your blood work pulled. Also as kelkel said, get E2 sensitive tested because regular test can read high. You may not need any AI at all.

[bedada]

Thank you gentlemen. I read about the E2 sensitive estradiol blood test. How is it different from a regular blood test that checks estradiol? I already started taking dex last week. I will take .25 twice a week and see what it does. I increased Dim from 100mg to 200mg. Also lowered DHEA from 200mg to 50mg. My DHEA was in the 800's and should not be above 400. I know that can convert to estrogen. I hardly drink. One, sometimes two beers about 3 times a week. I try to stay away from too much soy.

I'm guessing if my level is 1160 after day 3 and estradiol is 88, then it's probably 900 and 70 on day 7. I can always check it to see. Strange thing is I notice zero difference in energy or sex drive from day 1 to 7. Very high sex drive everyday and energy is so so.

Is crashing E2 mean the estradiol goes too low too fast? What would be a good number to be at? Before taking any testosterone my level was 333 from blood and estradiol was very low from a saliva test. I naturally have low estradiol.

[Baxter35]

Regular estrogen test is mostly designed for women and isn't good at accurately reading small amounts of e typically present in men. I would almost bet that you would not be high on a sensitive test given your score on the regular one. If you keep taking the adex, drop it to only once a week at .25 the day after your test dose. People on cycles of 500mg/wk test only take what amounts to 1mg/wk of adex, so its pretty strong stuff.

[Baldur2630]

My Estradiol is 88pg and the top is 39. Increase Dim detox from 100mg a day to 200mg a day. My test is 1160 and I'm only taking a baby dose (50mg week). My hrt doctor wanted me to lower my test dosage to 40mg and not take arimadex, but I did not take her advice. I went to my md and got arimadex. She told me to take .5mg everyday. I am very very sensitive to medication. Small doses of everything I take work for me, so I'm thinking .25 every other day. I am still taking 50mg a week of test injectables once a week.

Feedback on taking 200mg dim and .25 arimadex every other day? It is very hard to cut these tablets since they are 1mg.

Thanks

I do 200 Testosterone Enanthate weekly. I was advised to take Arimidex . As the doctors where I live are f*****g useless. I had to rely on Bro advice. I tried 0.25 E3D, and then 2 X weekly most weeks, sometimes only once. I was also taking 250 IU HCG 2 or 3 times weekly and 1IU Somatropin every day.

I crashed my estrogen totally. Seems all folks are very different and it appears that my tendency to aromatize on such a low dose is very low indeed. I am still taking the same dose of T and it's now been 9 weeks and I haven't taken any Arimidex (or anything else for an AI), and I JUST starting to get my libido back.

I've sworn that I'll never take Arimidex again. I'm planning to get another blood work when I think my libido is 100% in working order again. And if I need any AI, it will be Aromasin or maybe even Proviron will be enough.

Crashing estrogen is NOT NICE - BEWARE!

[DanMan250]

I can't add to what others have said, other than to express my surprise than just 50mg per week of test got you to 1160!

[2Sox]

I've sworn that I'll never take Arimidex again. I'm planning to get another blood work when I think my libido is 100% in working order again. And if I need any AI, it will be Aromasin or maybe even Proviron will be enough.

Crashing estrogen is NOT NICE - BEWARE!

Sorry to hear about your experience with Adex. It's a story that has been repeated here time and time again. It's a very strong and unforgiving medication with a wicked rebound effect. Very, very tricky to get the dosing right, from my own experience and from what I have learned from others here. I'm still puzzled why so many guys take it where there is a medication that is so effective and so easy on the system - Exemestane/Aromasin - and far superior, IMO.

[bedada]

I appreciate all the feedback. I am taking .25 twice a week. Doctor told me to take .50 everyday. That probably would have crashed me. I also had several saliva tests done. One before I took anything and the estrogen was on the low side. After taking the cream I think it went up around five times. Blood test was also high. I will take a regular estrogen test and a sensitive one to see the difference. Also I will draw blood on day three and day seven to see the difference in test and estrogen level. It's only money and blood. Hopefully the results will help someone in the future.

I feel pretty good and my sex drive is still high. From what I've read on this board E2 crashing means it goes down to around 10-15 which can kill energy and sex drive. I'm still trying to figure out how my test level is so high for only taking 50mg a week. I may get blood drawn at two labs just to compare.

[Baldur2630]

Arimidex managed to kill my estrodiol down to <5. My joints were sore. I had no interest in sex, I could get a VERY soft erection of sorts, but it wouldn't hold for long. If I could manage to even stroke the erection I just couldn't reach an orgasm at all.

As I said, we are all different I've been taking 200 mg Testosterone Enanthate / Cypionate mix every week. The last time I took any kind of AI was almost 15 weeks ago. My doctor(?) - well at least he can draw the blood and send it to the lab!) is on holiday for the next two weeks, but when he gets back, I plan to have more bloodwork. I THINK my estradiol has gone up a bit, but still has a way to go.

I'll post the results when I get them.

Maybe you are the opposite of me and you aromatize T very easily. The only way to find out is by trial and error and taking blood work. Don't expect any help from your doctor. My daughter had a blood test some weeks ago because she was always tired, putting on weight in spite of a maintenance calorie diet, she had zero sex drive, depressed, stressed and generally not well. When her results came back, her TSH was 7.9. At the side are the lab min and max values 2 to 4.3. In spite of that AND the symptoms, the doc told her that there wasn't a problem with her thyroid and that doctors only started to consider thyroid problems when TSH is higher than TEN.

Once again, we had no alternative but to self-medicate, I put her on T3 and T4 and she is much improved and feeling good. She will also get more blood drawn when this fool comes back from holiday.

Dont tell me to get a new doctor, this is the fifth one in this area, plus an endocrinologist. I would be hard pressed to tell you which one is the biggest idiot, I think if I had to award a first prize it would go to the Endo, who has been at the hospital now for 4 years and had to look up what sort of TRT treatments were available, because he had never had to prescribe it!

[Chicagotarsier]

This is why you on hrt are "on cycle". Maintain your test level you are going to be on for a month with no AI then do E2. Record

Add E3D .25 Adex for one month then go back and take your E2. Record. Compare.

This is how any doctor will do any medication They are not going to start you out on a high end dosage because they are not going to assign you any dosage until they have tried every other path to keep you off your cure. It is a simple path but takes money and time to find your solution. I think I am the only person on the board that Adex works properly on from all the posting of how different people are. Remember. you have to let your body get to homeostasis before the data is worthy data. Give a month...you are in no hurry with hrt. You got shots to do the rest of your life..it is not going anywhere.

This is what people just miss out on from their first 3 cycles. they don't learn their doses of AI and blood contributing needs....then they get in such a hurry on their cycle on 2Gram a week without a clue on their support needs and post how messed up they are. Take your time and get it right. My two cents.

The above is how you do on cy

I do 200 Testosterone Enanthate weekly. I was advised to take Arimidex . As the doctors where I live are f*****g useless. I had to rely on Bro advice. I tried 0.25 E3D, and then 2 X weekly most weeks, sometimes only once. I was also taking 250 IU HCG 2 or 3 times weekly and 1IU Somatropin every day.

I crashed my estrogen totally. Seems all folks are very different and it appears that my tendency to aromatize on such a low dose is very low indeed. I am still taking the same dose of T and it's now been 9 weeks and I haven't taken any Arimidex (or anything else for an AI), and I JUST starting to get my libido back.

I've sworn that I'll never take Arimidex again. I'm planning to get another blood work when I think my libido is 100% in working order again. And if I need any AI, it will be Aromasin or maybe even Proviron will be enough.

Crashing estrogen is NOT NICE - BEWARE!

[Baldur2630]

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This is why you on hrt are "on cycle". Maintain your test level you are going to be on for a month with no AI then do E2. Record

Add E3D .25 Adex for one month then go back and take your E2. Record. Compare.

This is how any doctor will do any medication They are not going to start you out on a high end dosage because they are not going to assign you any dosage until they have tried every other path to keep you off your cure. It is a simple path but takes money and time to find your solution. I think I am the only person on the board that Adex works properly on from all the posting of how different people are. Remember. you have to let your body get to homeostasis before the data is worthy data. Give a month...you are in no hurry with hrt. You got shots to do the rest of your life..it is not going anywhere.

This is what people just miss out on from their first 3 cycles. they don't learn their doses of AI and blood contributing needs....then they get in such a hurry on their cycle on 2Gram a week without a clue on their support needs and post how messed up they are. Take your time and get it right. My two cents.

The above is how you do on cy

I agree with your comments by and large, the difference here is that once you are over 50, doctors aren't interested. I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't an EU directive telling doctors not to waste time and money on the over 50's and let anyone over 65 stay sick and on drugs until they die off and don't waste resources on Pensions, so we have more cash to support immigrants!

Both my doctor(?) - and I use the term in the broadest possible way, and my so called endocrinologist just flatly refused to treat me "because of your age and your high Free Testosterone "!

I started TRT in October last year. I was fine, I knew zilch about AI. I was fine until January, when plenty of people told me that if I didn't take Arimidex I would get gyno and then on TRT at 200 mg weekly, I should take 0.25 Arimides EOD. I was quite concerned. In the absence of any form of medical help, one can only rely on Bro science. I started taking Arimidex, but my sex drive was gradually starting to go downhill. I was told (again Bro science) that I wasn't taking enough Arimidex and I should take 0.25 daily. I didn't follow this advice, I dropped my Arimidex to 0.25 E3D. Then soon after everything turned to shit.

I'm told Aromasin is a better bet, again Bro science, but reading up about it, it does seem to be a better bet IF I need any AI at all.

When my blood taking fool comes back, I'll get fresh bloodwork. I THINK my e2 is improving, but a long way from ideal. Ever since I was a kid, I've been randy, I spent 6 years with ZERO interest in sex, before I found (in spite of our so-called medical profession) what the problem was. Once I started the TRT, I was again as randy as a goat. I guess I'll know when my e2 hits a decent level again and when that happens, I think following your advice, but not taking any AI at all for at least a month and then getting bloods again until I find the point where I actually NEED an AI. Then I'll hit the Aromasin for a month and get blood done again.

So yes, I agree with your strategy, no the Arimidex though and don't mention how doctors would do it. Over here they WOULDN'T. Once over 50 you can write off doctors other than to feed you pills and keep you going back to them to keep the hamster wheel turning and the cash registers ringing!

My advice remains BE VERY CAREFUL WITH ARIMIDEX, unless you plan to be celibate for the rest of your life!

[DanMan250]

I appreciate all the feedback. I am taking .25 twice a week. Doctor told me to take .50 everyday. That probably would have crashed me. I also had several saliva tests done. One before I took anything and the estrogen was on the low side. After taking the cream I think it went up around five times. Blood test was also high. I will take a regular estrogen test and a sensitive one to see the difference. Also I will draw blood on day three and day seven to see the difference in test and estrogen level. It's only money and blood. Hopefully the results will help someone in the future.

I feel pretty good and my sex drive is still high. From what I've read on this board E2 crashing means it goes down to around 10-15 which can kill energy and sex drive. I'm still trying to figure out how my test level is so high for only taking 50mg a week. I may get blood drawn at two labs just to compare.

Yes please repeat your blood test and post your results here. I thought I was a super responder to test since 80mg gets me to around 800. You are the first person I've come across with a total testosterone level at the top of the reference range on just 50mg per week!