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    CA law on refilling Test for low T

    So just like the title states, im getting very fustrated. My insurance covers 90 days supply.

    The pharmacist was arguing with me stating he could only give me a 30 day supply. I use 160mg a week so my dr fills out form for 10ml vial. 200mg a ml.

    The pharmacist then states oh well it could be abused, i was like its a schedule 3 not a 2, i was very fustrated. He had done this to me before, but then when it had refilled he gave me the 10ml after arging with me lol.

    Has anyone else encountered this problem.

    He also made me laugh cuz he stated well you can abuse it, i then said if I did that i wouldnt have enough for the 30 days..been on for 8 years and havent started having a problem till recently.

    Rant over lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by FONZY007 View Post
    So just like the title states, im getting very fustrated. My insurance covers 90 days supply.

    The pharmacist was arguing with me stating he could only give me a 30 day supply. I use 160mg a week so my dr fills out form for 10ml vial. 200mg a ml.

    The pharmacist then states oh well it could be abused, i was like its a schedule 3 not a 2, i was very fustrated. He had done this to me before, but then when it had refilled he gave me the 10ml after arging with me lol.

    Has anyone else encountered this problem.

    He also made me laugh cuz he stated well you can abuse it, i then said if I did that i wouldnt have enough for the 30 days..been on for 8 years and havent started having a problem till recently.

    Rant over lol


    man i would have said, your not my Dr, you are here to disperse the products that my DR writes my scripts for, not sure on the laws in USA but can a pharmacist question and hassle you even if you have ascript ?

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    same issue here- i just hop from one pharmacy to another .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger11 View Post
    man i would have said, your not my Dr, you are here to disperse the products that my DR writes my scripts for, not sure on the laws in USA but can a pharmacist question and hassle you even if you have ascript ?
    They're starting to think they're fvkin Dr's... I've had these same issues w/non narco meds lmao - yeah! So they're just pricks and some are a lot worse than others!

    One guy said I can't refill your script - I just had brought in a new one from my doc - yet he said it's too early(I said well why did he write it for today?? Then he dispensed lolol

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3
    They're starting to think they're fvkin Dr's... I've had these same issues w/non narco meds lmao - yeah! So they're just pricks and some are a lot worse than others! One guy said I can't refill your script - I just had brought in a new one from my doc - yet he said it's too early(I said well why did he write it for today?? Then he dispensed lolol
    This has happened to me as well, I'm moving to a small pharmacy now, was using CVS previously but I'm using a local one now so far it's better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger11 View Post

    man i would have said, your not my Dr, you are here to disperse the products that my DR writes my scripts for, not sure on the laws in USA but can a pharmacist question and hassle you even if you have ascript ?
    Yea pissing me off, i use it which is only 70 days supply.

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    Google your State Laws for prescribing Testosterone and/or Controlled Substances. I had the same problem, but found that in my State if my Doc writes CODE-F on your Test Cyp script the Pharmacy can dispense up to 90 days worth. This is a specific prescribing law for those men on Hormone Replacement Therapy.

    If you find your State has the same regulation, have your Doc write it on the script. Then print out the regulation and show it to your pharmacy when you hand-in your script for filling...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger11 View Post
    man i would have said, your not my Dr, you are here to disperse the products that my DR writes my scripts for, not sure on the laws in USA but can a pharmacist question and hassle you even if you have ascript ?
    If a doctor writes a prescription the pharmacy you take it to does not have to fill it and can question any prescription that your doctor writes. There are many pharmacies that will NOT fill a testosterone prescription if the dose is above a certain amount. Most pharmacies will NOT fill for more than 90 days or one bottle at once. For example, if your dose is 200mg/wk and you receive a 10ml bottle this will last you 70 days...they're not going to give you another bottle to stretch it to 90 days. Increasingly common is a pharmacy only issuing 2ml, 4ml and 5ml vials for doses that are less than 150mg/wk.

    Long and short, the pharmacy is ALWAYS the final say and word on any prescription, not the doctor.
    Equally important note from the OP, Schedule III is not something to snuff at. Should testosterone be a Schedule III drug? Probably not, but that doesn't make it any less of a severe restriction. And many of you, if your states have their way it'll be Schedule II one day, and when that happens, well TRT cost go through the roof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Low Testosterone View Post
    And many of you, if your states have their way it'll be Schedule II one day, and when that happens, well TRT cost go through the roof.
    Hello black market...

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    It's why it's always good to develop a good relationship with your pharmacist. Whether you like them or not.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Low Testosterone View Post
    If a doctor writes a prescription the pharmacy you take it to does not have to fill it and can question any prescription that your doctor writes. There are many pharmacies that will NOT fill a testosterone prescription if the dose is above a certain amount. Most pharmacies will NOT fill for more than 90 days or one bottle at once. For example, if your dose is 200mg/wk and you receive a 10ml bottle this will last you 70 days...they're not going to give you another bottle to stretch it to 90 days. Increasingly common is a pharmacy only issuing 2ml, 4ml and 5ml vials for doses that are less than 150mg/wk.

    Long and short, the pharmacy is ALWAYS the final say and word on any prescription, not the doctor.
    Equally important note from the OP, Schedule III is not something to snuff at. Should testosterone be a Schedule III drug? Probably not, but that doesn't make it any less of a severe restriction. And many of you, if your states have their way it'll be Schedule II one day, and when that happens, well TRT cost go through the roof.
    Maybe so, but we as patients/consumers do have a voice. CVS was pulling this exact crap with me. My State allows the Doc to write Code-F on the script which allows the Pharmacy to dispense up to 90 Days if that's what the Doc writes on the script. Even after this, CVS was still giving me a bad attitude every time I handed them a script for a 10ml bottle. Now I understand CVS or any Pharmacy can challenge a script, but there's no reason for an attitude and/or treating a man on TRT like he's doing something wrong (i.e. treating us like crack-heads).

    I called CVS Corporate and complained about my experiences. I explained that I was on TRT for life and not filling my script for a 10ml bottle was a major inconvenience especially since State Law allows the Pharmacy to dispense the Med as written by my Doctor. After an investigation, the Corporate Office called me back and apologized for how I was treated and this Pharmacy has now totally changed their attitude. Have not had a problem since filling 10ml bottles.

    So don't take any crap in the end, as we're not doing anything wrong...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Low Testosterone View Post

    If a doctor writes a prescription the pharmacy you take it to does not have to fill it and can question any prescription that your doctor writes. There are many pharmacies that will NOT fill a testosterone prescription if the dose is above a certain amount. Most pharmacies will NOT fill for more than 90 days or one bottle at once. For example, if your dose is 200mg/wk and you receive a 10ml bottle this will last you 70 days...they're not going to give you another bottle to stretch it to 90 days. Increasingly common is a pharmacy only issuing 2ml, 4ml and 5ml vials for doses that are less than 150mg/wk.

    Long and short, the pharmacy is ALWAYS the final say and word on any prescription, not the doctor.
    Equally important note from the OP, Schedule III is not something to snuff at. Should testosterone be a Schedule III drug? Probably not, but that doesn't make it any less of a severe restriction. And many of you, if your states have their way it'll be Schedule II one day, and when that happens, well TRT cost go through the roof.
    Oh i understand that, i was going back and fourth with him he stated well its a controlled substance, personally i think he was profiling me to be honest. Its whatever, they even called the dr for clarification. I might called there higher ups, he stated which made me laugh stating 2 wrongs dont make a right. I said correct but nothing here is wrong so that doesnt apply. He was very fustrated with me. If i went on another day which i know the pharmacist assistant i would of got my 10ml vial. I want to only get my 70 days supply and having to only pay my co pay once instead of 3 times..


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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    They're starting to think they're fvkin Dr's...
    Well, they do hold a doctorate degree in pharmacy (Pharm.D.), so that sorta makes them doctors...
    They also know more about prescribing laws than physicians, since that's a huge part of their job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Well, they do hold a doctorate degree in pharmacy (Pharm.D.), so that sorta makes them doctors...
    They also know more about prescribing laws than physicians, since that's a huge part of their job.
    Agreed - good point! Lol

    It's just imo they take it too far - whether it's a schedule(1-2-or 3... Or even non narco meds) it's just frustrating - don't get me wrong there's plenty of people to be weary about regarding pain meds, sedatives etc -

    I guess like you/& low T mentioned they can question any script - all they have to do is just call the Dr's office who wrote it for confirmation, instead of giving the patient a hard time... It is what it is and will be what it will be, regardless

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post

    Agreed - good point! Lol

    It's just imo they take it too far - whether it's a schedule(1-2-or 3... Or even non narco meds) it's just frustrating - don't get me wrong there's plenty of people to be weary about regarding pain meds, sedatives etc -

    I guess like you/& low T mentioned they can question any script - all they have to do is just call the Dr's office who wrote it for confirmation, instead of giving the patient a hard time... It is what it is and will be what it will be, regardless
    True, he even questioned my other med which I been in cuz I have insomnia from working nights for 10 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by APIs View Post
    Maybe so, but we as patients/consumers do have a voice. CVS was pulling this exact crap with me. My State allows the Doc to write Code-F on the script which allows the Pharmacy to dispense up to 90 Days if that's what the Doc writes on the script. Even after this, CVS was still giving me a bad attitude every time I handed them a script for a 10ml bottle. Now I understand CVS or any Pharmacy can challenge a script, but there's no reason for an attitude and/or treating a man on TRT like he's doing something wrong (i.e. treating us like crack-heads).

    I called CVS Corporate and complained about my experiences. I explained that I was on TRT for life and not filling my script for a 10ml bottle was a major inconvenience especially since State Law allows the Pharmacy to dispense the Med as written by my Doctor. After an investigation, the Corporate Office called me back and apologized for how I was treated and this Pharmacy has now totally changed their attitude. Have not had a problem since filling 10ml bottles.

    So don't take any crap in the end, as we're not doing anything wrong...
    You're right, you as patients (TRT patients) do have a voice. But overall TRT patients are in my opinion the absolute worse about exercising their rights and using their voice properly. Because so many turn to the black market or manipulate blood test, lie about doses, etc. it's very difficult for positive changes in TRT medicine to ever occur. I've said the reason steroid laws in the U.S. are so strict are in part due to the steroid users ability to take the long hard road that will lead to change. When you have patients screaming at a doctor or pharmacist things like "I know my body" you're only making things worse.

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