Trt and estro levels, too low?

[ELBOZ]

Ive been on TRT for a few months, have cycled before but fresh to TRt. Im still trying to get dialed in, and I know it can be a while, luckily my DR is cool, Im not scheduled to see him til Im ready and have a few refills to play with and run labs myself.

Ive done two labs and they are consistent my numbers came back the same.

My dr recommended 100/week ..1mg adex/week

I knew off the back that was too much adex but didnt say anything I knew I would do it my way.

Im currently running 100/ every 4 days with .5 adex

Blood work shows.
total 800+
estro 14-17

Is this estro too low? im guessing it is my libido is shot, and I do look too dry, lips skin, dehydrated. But mainly the libido issue, troubles me.

At this dose of 100/every 4 days , say 200/week seeing how I react to adex is it even needed. Should I just quit the AI? I know bloowdwork is important and will be the only thing that will tell for sure, which I obviously dont mind doing in another 6 weeks,Im a huge fan of BW period.

But what do you guys think do I stop the adex or drop it to .25 instead of.5 after every shot? Until next BW...Thanks!

PS..gonna also start proviron to see if it helps libido, thought id include this info if its useful in regards to stopping or lowering aI

[Chauffeur]

Depends.

When you say estro, are you referring to estrogen or estradiol?

What is the reference range for your labs?

[ELBOZ]

Depends.

When you say estro, are you referring to estrogen or estradiol?

What is the reference range for your labs?

yeah sorry me and my laziness.

estradiol 15.5 7.6-42.6 pg/mL

Testosterone 830 348-1197 ng/dL

[2Sox]

It's been suggested many times before here that if someone is new to TRT they should start low, see what BW says and then titrate up if necessary. You are essentially taking 200mg of T per week and that is a rather high starting dose. Best to go slow.

To get a better idea of how you are doing, post your Free T level with ranges, as well.

It seems that the estradiol level you posted is not the sensitive assay which is best for men and gives a truer reading of where you are. See if you can get that done the next time you go in for BW.

BTW, Adex is very tricky stuff. It's best to develop a very healthy respect for it and dose accordingly only if necessary. BW should be your best your guide. Later on you'll be able to read your body's signals and that will help with dosing decisions also.

[Chauffeur]

yeah sorry me and my laziness.

estradiol 15.5 7.6-42.6 pg/mL

Testosterone 830 348-1197 ng/dL

Your estradiol is pretty much crashed, that's why you are experiencing these symptoms.

This was the standard assay, which overstates estradiol values significantly. The sensitive assay would likely reveal that your estradiol is close to undetectable.

Back off, or completely stop the Adex.

[kelkel]

Good advice above. If I read it correctly you're taking .5 mg every 4 days, so basically 1 mg per week. Think about this, guys who run a basic 500 mg per week test cycle take .25 mgs every other day. Do the math. You're taking more adex for far less test.

[ELBOZ]

It's been suggested many times before here that if someone is new to TRT they should start low, see what BW says and then titrate up if necessary. You are essentially taking 200mg of T per week and that is a rather high starting dose. Best to go slow.

To get a better idea of how you are doing, post your Free T level with ranges, as well.

It seems that the estradiol level you posted is not the sensitive assay which is best for men and gives a truer reading of where you are. See if you can get that done the next time you go in for BW.

BTW, Adex is very tricky stuff. It's best to develop a very healthy respect for it and dose accordingly only if necessary. BW should be your best your guide. Later on you'll be able to read your body's signals and that will help with dosing decisions also.

Yeah I understand 2sox, I knew what to expect from low doses of text cause all cycles Ive done have been low, from 300 to 400 tops a week test, but yeah I do plan to drop back to 100 as recommended from my Dr to see how that goes and report back to him, just wanted some extra in me before I return to him. Thanks for advice though

Your estradiol is pretty much crashed, that's why you are experiencing these symptoms.

This was the standard assay, which overstates estradiol values significantly. The sensitive assay would likely reveal that your estradiol is close to undetectable.

Back off, or completely stop the Adex.

Thanks chauffeur I completely agree and appreciate the advice, Im coming off the adex now , and will keep it that way , Im guessing I dont need it at 200mg per week and much less at 100 per week, when I go to my prescribed trt dose.

Good advice above. If I read it correctly you're taking .5 mg every 4 days, so basically 1 mg per week. Think about this, guys who run a basic 500 mg per week test cycle take .25 mgs every other day. Do the math. You're taking more adex for far less test.

Thats correct kel , but stopping it now. thanks!

[skinin_bonz]

Newbie bere. Im just beating the labido problem. I took 1xweek 100 mg test cy. But even thought I was warned not to do anything my doc didnt kno2 about...I took an over the counter e blocker. Sumbeach worked. Estradiol crashed along w my junk. Dumped blocker a week ago and wife is happy. T is now 50mg every 3.5 days. My free went from 9.3 to 21 range 9-30