22 y/o Low test, previous cycles.. Ultimate HPTA restart protocol? All bases covered!

[ripped_k1d]

Hey guys, I am 22 year old 5’9 178 lbs 10% BF. Ran a few PH’s some oral only cycle with a topical DHEA base, some SARM cycles.. Basically tried to cycle without using pins at an early age and think my HPTA might have taken a long lasting hit. I’ve tried a HPTA restart before. Ended up jacking up my natty test but had a surge of E2 along with it.. Ended up with my levels falling back way down about a month after the attempted restart. Going to get a female Test panel done by private labs MD to see what Im working with before I attempt another restart. I ran HGH for a while so the ipa might restart my pituitary.

Goals:
1. Get natural test kicking and as high as possible while keeping my Free Test/E2 ratio as high as possible
2. Take peptides to improve natural GH release, improve sleep quality and recovery
3. Question: I have armidex and armosin.. I feeling like armosin is better?

HCG 2.5k iu shot every 5 days for 20 days.. Wait 5 days and start clomid/nolva
12.5mg of aromosin E3D
12.5mcg T3 50mcg T4 ED
Caber .5mg E3D
5 grams of DAA ED
I have 60x 50mg Clomid
60x 20mg Nolva
Clomid 100/50/50/50/50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20/20/20/20/20
100mg of Ipamorelin/CJC-1295 No DAC every morning/night
Gunna throw some Tongkat ali in there and see what that does

I have some foremstane cream (letrozole ), T-base cream (DHEA) along with Clen , 11-OXO and proviron on hand. Also have some arimidex .. I heard armosin is better.
Plus Test E and 200x 10mg winny tabs… This HPTA restart will take 3 months. If my levels don’t stabilze after the treatment I run the test e and winny and attempt to get on TRT with my doctor after. Not sure. A clen/11oxo/proviron/test cream dose could make for a nasty cutting cycle.

[bullshark99]

What is your question???

[kelkel]

Do you have current BW you can post.

[Mr.BB]

Do you have current BW you can post.

^^^ This. You should have several blood works, by your problem description.

For now i'll just say that peptides dont restart your pituitary, it doesnt need restart even if hgh is taken.
By your logical you then would need something to restart your hypothalamos.

[ripped_k1d]

BW I got back today is just Lipid/CBC/Kidney function.. Everything was within range. I'll scan it and post it tomorrow. Last week I tested HGH, IGF-1 and TSH

I am about to order the female hormone panel off of private labs md.. It has E2, FSH, LH and total hormone for 60 bucks... Don't want to pay another $60 for a test that will tell me my free test. What do you guys think? Is total test and E2 enough to guess what my free test levels are?

Don't have a specific question per se.. I don't have anyone to talk to about this stuff. My health insurance has a 4k deductible so I can't just pop into the Dr. every week because its out of pocket costs until I hit 4k.

When I take HCG is it better to use aromosin or arimidex ?

[ripped_k1d]

^^^ This. You should have several blood works, by your problem description.

For now i'll just say that peptides dont restart your pituitary, it doesnt need restart even if hgh is taken.
By your logical you then would need something to restart your hypothalamos.

I agree.. Just thought a few vials of Ipamorelin/CJC would be cool to take after a long GH cycle.. Wasn't considering it an "HGH PCT"

I know these aren't the BW tests you guys are looking for, but

T4 (free) = 1.28 range .82-1.77 ng/dL
TSH =2.240 range .45-4.5 uIU/ML
IGF-1 =399 range 115-355 ng/mL
Growth Hormone , Serum = .8 range .0-10.0

So I liked everything about this test.. except my GH serum seemed absurdly low

[ripped_k1d]

So this is what I got so far.. SHould I order that Female Hormone panel from private MD? Is getting a free test reading worth the extra 60$?

I totally understand that you guys are going to tell me to get everything tested before I put anything into my body. All I know is that I tried a HPTA restart about 3 months ago. I pinned 2.5kiu HCG twice 5 days apart, waited 5 days and then took 50mg clomid/20mg nolva for 4 weeks. I felt ****ING AWESOME. I want to feel like that all the time.. I don't need a blood test to know that.

[MrFreshmaker]

<img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=160318"/><img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=160319"/> So this is what I got so far.. SHould I order that Female Hormone panel from private MD? Is getting a free test reading worth the extra 60$? I totally understand that you guys are going to tell me to get everything tested before I put anything into my body. All I know is that I tried a HPTA restart about 3 months ago. I pinned 2.5kiu HCG twice 5 days apart, waited 5 days and then took 50mg clomid/20mg nolva for 4 weeks. I felt ****ING AWESOME. I want to feel like that all the time.. I don't need a blood test to know that.

You have to do a total hormonal panel, you can't guess that your testosterone is low by just how you feel,cuz other hormones play a role in well being,example estrogen can be low or high,which makes you feel like shit,etc etc.
P.S. Edit your blood work picture and delete your name and info on it!

[ripped_k1d]

Thanks bro! I cropped that stuff out but didn't save it! Just re did it now. Ok So what should I test for? Total test, free test, E2, Free T3, Free T4, LH, FSH andddd Vit D, DHEA? Im looking at private labs MD for a test that has everything that isn't redic expensive. I already paid $190 for CBC and Lipids through my Dr. So dumb.. The 65$ female hormone panel has all of that for free.

My AST, and BUN are a little high.. My kidneys and liver used to be in worse shape from drinking and running some orals. Glad to see that stuff is back in range ish. I should really get a liver enzyme test no?

[MrFreshmaker]

Do complete male hormone panel along with LH and FSH.
60$?You're lucky,in Europe i pay 260-300EUR for blood work!

[jimmyinkedup]

Drop the DAA, it will raise your prolactin substantially and given the other things you are taking you dont need it for you LH & FSH , serms will more than handle that.

[kelkel]

So I liked everything about this test.. except my GH serum seemed absurdly low

It's not even close to low. Testing GH serum is not that effective as it's pulsatile in nature. Judge it by your IGF-1 which is great.