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Thread: BMP back again with more questions ? The more I read the more confused I get ?

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    BMP back again with more questions ? The more I read the more confused I get ?

    Please try to be tempered and try not to blow me out of the water ?

    TRT Protical:

    1) 70 mg Testosterone Cypionate every 3.5 day , I am doing a Tren Blast right now and on 100 mg every 3.5 days
    2) Anastrozole- .25 every 4th day -While on blast every 3rd day .25
    3) HCG 500 mics EOD 3 tic in a 1 ml syringe
    4) Ciialas Liquid- 30 mg or 15 mg 2 x's a day Vascularity is unreal !
    5) Tren E 200 - 80 mg every 3 days , much easier on my system than Tren A is it as good ?
    6) Taking all the IMO standard /recommended supplements and a few for my on health like cinnamon L- Argeine , Saw Palmeto , CQ-10
    7) Mixing Casein Protein Shakes in with regular Whey Shakes
    8) Been doing 2 hrs cardio and lift and ab work and find I have to eat during my w/o so I eat a Cliff bar and chew it up very very good to help prevent blockages . . . . . . lol or even a Sneakers ( has same values as a POWER bar )

    *9)* I have read where I should be on Caber while running Tren E that is the question ?
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    Not sure what your really asking but here goes. Tren is tren one is a short ester and the other is long. You should have your ancillaries on hand to combat tren sides yes. 2 hours cardio? Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio-Active View Post
    Not sure what your really asking but here goes. Tren is tren one is a short ester and the other is long. You should have your ancillaries on hand to combat tren sides yes. 2 hours cardio? Why?
    Possibly you did not read my post closely enough I am running Tren - E 200 ------ Not Tren A and I have never used caber as a part of TRT and have been reading that some use it all the time on TRT and I read bad things about caber also I can have it in 3 days so that is the reason for my question I hope this clears things up for you ?

    Because I am 56 and that thin layer of fat around my back sides and belly refuse to go away and I eat cle every 3 hrs and train hard and it will just not go away ? Not sure why but with cardio it is beginning to go away ! Hey if you know a better way I welcome your experienced input ! Life really changes hoe thing work at 56 . I am 240 lbs , 6 ft and have a 33 in waist and that is not wearing thma under a beer belly ! No side handles just a stubborn 10 lbs that will not go away ?

    That is why 2 hrs of cardio !
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    You asked if tren e is as good as tren a yeah and I answered that. They are both tren one is a short ester one is long. They are still both tren. If your concerned then tren a is always the way to go as you can get out faster if sides come up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio-Active View Post
    You asked if tren e is as good as tren a yeah and I answered that. They are both tren one is a short ester one is long. They are still both tren. If your concerned then tren a is always the way to go as you can get out faster if sides come up.
    With all due respects I gave all the info you asked about is in the 1st post of this thread there would be no reason for me " To get out of it " I am 56 and on TRT ? I also shared I was running Tren - E 200 and I like Tren A better ? My question that I asked was is Caber needed when running Tren also is it a good idea to run Caber all the time on TRT but basicly when running Tren ? I got my info from a long thread posted by jimmyinked ? I can post a link if need be but if you know the answer there would be no need to re-post that link !

    In your 1st response you asked " why 2 hrs cardio ? " I replied I am 56 and got 10 lbs of fat that refuses to go away ; around the waist , back and belly ! No beer belly or even love love handles ? My top 2 flexors show , but that is the end of any abs and will do about 30 minutes of abs every time I am in the gym ! Do you know a way to burn that fat ? I eat tight every 3 hrs and have a small mid level carb snack pre and and post w/o . drink 2 gallons of water a day and I hate spending so much time on elliptical , Bike and stairs ! I can't run due to hip implant ! Please I welcome your seasoned advise !
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    Caber may or may not be needed. We all react different on a low dose probably not but I would have it just in case. 2 hours of cardio seems like a lot. Are you doing cardio right after weight training? Have you tried fasted cardio first thing in the am? Are you keeping your heart rate in the fat burning zone?

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    I think what was meant by the Tren E vs Tren A comment was that IF there was sides developing Tren A would be out of your system lot faster than Tren E. Some folks here also take Caber while on Tren, Deca to help prevent prolactin associated side effects and some take it as part as a lifestyle program. I guess the thinking is that since it also effects the dopamine levels the more the better (ie, better moods, better libido, etc) Just spit balling here. Hey I am here to learn to. I feel for you on the last little bit around the belly .... got it too

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    Coming from a fatbody and I realize your question was more in regards to Tren (which I'm clueless on) but as far as fat loss and cardio, have you considered HIIT style cardio as opposed to steady state type? If you are hammering out 2 hours of HIIT, you're a beast and you have my utmost respect.

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    cmon buzzard !, no need to bite bio-actives head off- i read the tren question the same way.
    when i saw the "?"at the end of the tren scentence i also assumed it was question and not a statement.
    lets be friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon1972 View Post
    cmon buzzard !, no need to bite bio-actives head off- i read the tren question the same way.
    when i saw the "?"at the end of the tren scentence i also assumed it was question and not a statement.
    lets be friends.
    Wow I had no intent to be rude to someone trying to help me ? I just thought that possibly he didn't read the post and just scanned it ! If I in anyway offended , please accept my most humble apology Bio - Active and thank you for offering your input ! I really thought you were trying to help , but missed my complete post ? I am an old fart and maybe rude when I don't even mean to be ? I know I am rude when I mean to be but that was never my attempt to be rude to you !

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuzzardMarinePumper
    Wow I had no intent to be rude to someone trying to help me ? I just thought that possibly he didn't read the post and just scanned it ! If I in anyway offended , please accept my most humble apology Bio - Active and thank you for offering your input ! I really thought you were trying to help , but missed my complete post ? I am an old fart and maybe rude when I don't even mean to be ? I know I am rude when I mean to be but that was never my attempt to be rude to you !
    no worries brother and I didn't take it that way. Did we get you the answers you were looking for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonjumper View Post
    Coming from a fatbody and I realize your question was more in regards to Tren (which I'm clueless on) but as far as fat loss and cardio, have you considered HIIT style cardio as opposed to steady state type? If you are hammering out 2 hours of HIIT, you're a beast and you have my utmost respect.

    lol , I do 45 mins. pre - w/o & 30 mins. between body parts and 45 mins post w/o ! The 45 pre - w/o really does assist in having me warmed up and that way I do not reach that power boost about 1/2 way into a w/o ~! I catch my wind and hit the weights !

    I hope this is also the answer to the question Bio - Active asked .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio-Active View Post
    no worries brother and I didn't take it that way. Did we get you the answers you were looking for?
    I think Fireeater 49 hit on the effects of caber I was seeking . I just wondered if he was joking when saying more is better ? I kinda would think that for a certain weight there is a recommended amount ! Please if you are still on try to share your knowledge now because I am ordering this evening and Peptides also . THANKS !

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuzzardMarinePumper
    I think Fireeater 49 hit on the effects of caber I was seeking . I just wondered if he was joking when saying more is better ? I kinda would think that for a certain weight there is a recommended amount ! Please if you are still on try to share your knowledge now because I am ordering this evening and Peptides also . THANKS !
    I really doubt you are going to need caber at the dose you listed for the tren . 80 mg e3d. I would have it just in case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio-Active View Post
    I really doubt you are going to need caber at the dose you listed for the tren. 80 mg e3d. I would have it just in case.
    Does Caber increase libido and give you an all over better sense of well being ! I know I can tell a huge difference when not on HCG ! Thanks again for your information I am going up to 100 mg today ? When I use Tren A I feel it with in minutes of taking the pin but Tren E I have not noticed anything out of the ordinary other than an almost euphoric feeling ?? ? No super drive in the gym so that is why I am increasing !

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuzzardMarinePumper
    Does Caber increase libido and give you an all over better sense of well being ! I know I can tell a huge difference when not on HCG ! Thanks again for your information I am going up to 100 mg today ? When I use Tren A I feel it with in minutes of taking the pin but Tren E I have not noticed anything out of the ordinary other than an almost euphoric feeling ?? ? No super drive in the gym so that is why I am increasing !
    are you running 100 mg of tren e 2x ew?

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    2 hours of cardio everyday is absurd. You're not burning fat you're just conditioning. If you can't lose fat it's your diet, eat less = lose more weight. I'm sorry I know nothing about tren .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio-Active View Post
    are you running 100 mg of tren e 2x ew?

    I will say this . I have been running 80 mg every 3rd day and I do not get that rock hard feeling and do not have the drive that I usually get from Tren A ? Should the results be close to the same and when I run Tren A I run 40 mg EOD and at the end I am running 60 mg EOD and I can feel the 1st injection . I pinned 100 mg today and still sleep fine but sweat a lot ? Still have not been to the gym today I will go about 1:00 am

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuzzardMarinePumper View Post
    I will say this . I have been running 80 mg every 3rd day and I do not get that rock hard feeling and do not have the drive that I usually get from Tren A ? Should the results be close to the same and when I run Tren A I run 40 mg EOD and at the end I am running 60 mg EOD and I can feel the 1st injection . I pinned 100 mg today and still sleep fine but sweat a lot ? Still have not been to the gym today I will go about 1:00 am
    The tren e will take longer for blood levels to build... How long have you been on Tren e?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio-Active View Post
    The tren e will take longer for blood levels to build... How long have you been on Tren e?
    9 days Oh 2 days ago started waking with morning wood ? When I was not looking caber was on what seemed like every site I went to and tonight when I was ordering ? I did not see it on 1 ? Has it been reclassified ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuzzardMarinePumper
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    you will get going in another week or so

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdil511 View Post
    2 hours of cardio everyday is absurd. You're not burning fat you're just conditioning. If you can't lose fat it's your diet, eat less = lose more weight. I'm sorry I know nothing about tren.

    I read what you said and think I know what you meant ? But it is absurd to think the answer is eat less and loose more that is ao old school thought process itis older than me and even I know better than that ! Possible eat less of a certain food group or less per ingestion time ? But I eat every 3 hrs and even me with the fat issue I have I assist heavy women in loosing fat ! It is so hard to get that stink'in think'in out of their heads and get them to eat more of the right foods ! Even once they get on track I can tell when they try to go back to the eat less program because they either stop loosing fat or gain weight when they eat less !

    I think IMHO once you have you initial huge fat loose and start building muscle diet is so important and so hard to tweak ! I stop eating so much and I stop seeing muscle gain and I go back to eating and I see muscle gain ! But my waist has remained pretty steady between 34 and 33 ins for about 3 years now and at 6 ft and 240 lbs that is something this old man is OK with just not my goal ! Gotta get that mid section trimmed dow some way and I have not been able to tweak my macros yet !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio-Active View Post
    you will get going in another week or so
    Does it really take 2 weeks for the Tren E to really start showing the same results as Tren A does in a week ? Sad for me but I feel no adverse effect at 100 mg . I sorta got the impression that was a lot ? Or is that not enough ? ? ? ? I don't want a dlayed action and it roll me over like a steam roller and kick my ass and be miserable ? Tren A at 60 EOD never really hit me hard I am 56 and just try to stay on the light side ? But Tren and Test are IMHO the only 2 compounds needed if you learn how your body accepts the t=Tren and this E has me off balance ! Had my Ai's and everything down pat with Tren A ! I should have just stayed on the Test Prop until he got some Tren A cooked up but I got sold that the Tren E was some super BA compound even better than Tren A 100 which kind of made sense 200 over 100 should be better ! But I learned from Kel More is not better and that is why I go slow and see how things effect my body !

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuzzardMarinePumper
    Does it really take 2 weeks for the Tren E to really start showing the same results as Tren A does in a week ? Sad for me but I feel no adverse effect at 100 mg . I sorta got the impression that was a lot ? Or is that not enough ? ? ? ? I don't want a dlayed action and it roll me over like a steam roller and kick my ass and be miserable ? Tren A at 60 EOD never really hit me hard I am 56 and just try to stay on the light side ? But Tren and Test are IMHO the only 2 compounds needed if you learn how your body accepts the t=Tren and this E has me off balance ! Had my Ai's and everything down pat with Tren A ! I should have just stayed on the Test Prop until he got some Tren A cooked up but I got sold that the Tren E was some super BA compound even better than Tren A 100 which kind of made sense 200 over 100 should be better ! But I learned from Kel More is not better and that is why I go slow and see how things effect my body !
    when you look at the half life and active life of the compounds yes it's takes enanthate longer for sure and as blood levels stable you end up with more in your system. Your still running a pretty low dose your just going to have to give it a bit more time. You should start to feel it soon though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio-Active View Post
    when you look at the half life and active life of the compounds yes it's takes enanthate longer for sure and as blood levels stable you end up with more in your system. Your still running a pretty low dose your just going to have to give it a bit more time. You should start to feel it soon though
    Felt it last night and that was after 36 hrs no sleep and strength increased a bunch I think more is better since I am at 200 mg a week and at 245 lbs ! I have to eat to add lean weight and muscle and at the same time I do not get FAT but my belly is not as flat Came home and crashed and woke up so hungry I could have ate a cow !

    I only pigged out a little had a 12 oz Ribeye and 2 sweet potatoes and a couple glasses of Yankee tea

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