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    This is my protocol:
    100mg Test. Cyp. - twice per week (day 1 and day 4)
    Anastrozole 0.5mg - twice per week (day 2 and day 5)
    HCG 500 IU - twice per week (day 6 and day 7)

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    I pin on thursdays and inject 100 mg test c. I've had varying doses but honestly I like it on the "lower" side.

    This gets my total T in the 500~ range in trough (tried pinning twice a week splitting doses in half but caused terrifying acne. I think my mood might have been better but not always)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post
    Bizarro, thanx for the insight. I have unopened bottles of DHEA & Pregnenolone in my medicine cabinet, but waiting till off cycle to try - too many other things going on now, really want to see the effect of them alone.

    I'd like to add, so far I've been very happy that my prolactin levels from my pituitary adenoma have remained stable. I am on caber though.
    So you have a prolactinoma? How big is the thing? I remember the first time I had PRL checked, my hope was an elevated reading rather than being diagnosed with "idiopathic" LowT.

    Does cabergoline help with libido? I experimented with a drug that enhances dopamine (selegiline), although it works in a different way. In a couple of weeks, the libido enhancing effect was really noticeable. As a word of warning, I don't recommend anyone reading here to mess DA agonists and the sort, as these drugs can have unpredictable sides.
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    I don't recall the initial MRI reading, but the caber brought the size down to very acceptable levels according to the second MRI. Initially my prolactin was over 400 and the docs were surprised I wasn't producing milk or I wasn't losing vision.

    Can't say the caber helped with libido or anything else that I can recall, been on it going on 3 years now.
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    I've been taking low dose Selegiline (Deprenyl) daily for about 8 years or so. Good stuff. Big believer in the life extension applications of this drug.

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    bump

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    I've been on for about 3 years now.

    Started out at 100mg/week Test Cyp which brought my total Test levels from negligible (<20) to around 200 ng/dL (Reference 250-1100)

    Bumped me up to 150mg/week Test Cyp which brought them up from 200 to 400 or so.

    After 3 months on the 150mg/week, doc bumped me up to 200 mg/week. 6 months later my levels were:

    Total Test 859 ng/dL (Ref 250-1100)
    Free Test 236.2 pg/mL H (Ref 35-155)
    Sex Hormone Binding$Globulin 14 nmol/L (ref 10-50)

    I've stuck with this dose ever since which is going on about 6 months now. Don't have my estrogen results handy but I was in the normal range. No AI, no HCG .

    I inject IM once per week and have had no issue with it that would warrant me wanting to increase the frequency
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charger Hemi View Post
    This is my protocol:
    100mg Test. Cyp. - twice per week (day 1 and day 4)
    Anastrozole 0.5mg - twice per week (day 2 and day 5)
    HCG 500 IU - twice per week (day 6 and day 7)

    do u use the 1mg adex pills and cut in half or the dissolveable .5mg adex pills?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charger Hemi View Post
    This is my protocol:
    100mg Test. Cyp. - twice per week (day 1 and day 4)
    Anastrozole 0.5mg - twice per week (day 2 and day 5)
    HCG 500 IU - twice per week (day 6 and day 7)
    double post

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    I use the 1mg pill and cut it into two halves.

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    Those are a bitch to split (tiny and smooth), but I manage to cut'em into quarters.


    I am feeling feebler as the weeks passes; something is not working as it should. Perhaps thyroid is worth an extra check.


    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    I've been taking low dose Selegiline (Deprenyl) daily for about 8 years or so. Good stuff. Big believer in the life extension applications of this drug.
    I usually have an hard time with drugs but selegiline relieves my symptoms (especially brain fog) like nothing else. I might consider taking it again once stabilized with TRT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keep_It_Moving View Post
    Just curious to see where our members are at on what dosage?

    1) What is your TRT protocol?

    2) Where does this protocol land your values at?

    Thanks to those who reply....
    160mg of test cyp. Broken into 2 shots a week

    Take .25mg of AI day after injection

    Last time bloods where pulled I was in the 700 total test range

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    I've been taking low dose Selegiline (Deprenyl) daily for about 8 years or so. Good stuff. Big believer in the life extension applications of this drug.

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    Kel what are your thoughts on metformin. For its anti aging affects..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FONZY007 View Post
    Kel what are your thoughts on metformin. For its anti aging affects..

    I've done a good bit of reading on it and it's interesting stuff. Life Extension is real big on it and there are finally studies toward the life extension aspect instead of diabetes. I'll probably end up trying it in time. Hopefully the FDA approves it for this purpose and it doesn't take 20 years......
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    I've done a good bit of reading on it and it's interesting stuff. Life Extension is real big on it and there are finally studies toward the life extension aspect instead of diabetes. I'll probably end up trying it in time. Hopefully the FDA approves it for this purpose and it doesn't take 20 years......


    Kel- what are your thought on the .5 and .25mg adex dissolveable forms compared to the 1mg pill that you can split? is the 1 mg pill difficult to split in half or into quarters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    Those are a bitch to split (tiny and smooth), but I manage to cut'em into quarters.


    I am feeling feebler as the weeks passes; something is not working as it should. Perhaps thyroid is worth an extra check.




    I usually have an hard time with drugs but selegiline relieves my symptoms (especially brain fog) like nothing else. I might consider taking it again once stabilized with TRT.
    The adex 1mg pills are a bitch to split? is that true... do u split them into quarters only or in half as well?

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    problem solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon1972 View Post
    problem solved.
    Ugh this thing sucks for.me. I don't know if I bought a cheap one. But I can't even split a dex evenly in half let alone 1/4s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keep_It_Moving View Post
    Kel- what are your thought on the .5 and .25mg adex dissolveable forms compared to the 1mg pill that you can split? is the 1 mg pill difficult to split in half or into quarters?

    I've only used the pills. Never bought a pill cutter. Most of the time they cut fine for me. It does not have to be perfect. Cut quick, not slow. If it powders a bit just scoop it up and take it. Still works!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    I've only used the pills. Never bought a pill cutter. Most of the time they cut fine for me. It does not have to be perfect. Cut quick, not slow. If it powders a bit just scoop it up and take it. Still works!
    I use the exact one shown. I cut them up in bulk and store in a medicine jar. Perfect cuts, no powder. All it takes is 10 mins to get thru a pack of arimidex and I'm set for half a year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon1972 View Post
    I use the exact one shown. I cut them up in bulk and store in a medicine jar. Perfect cuts, no powder. All it takes is 10 mins to get thru a pack of arimidex and I'm set for half a year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post
    I don't recall the initial MRI reading, but the caber brought the size down to very acceptable levels according to the second MRI. Initially my prolactin was over 400 and the docs were surprised I wasn't producing milk or I wasn't losing vision.

    Can't say the caber helped with libido or anything else that I can recall, been on it going on 3 years now.
    Hey man, could you share more on what measure units was it in 400? I have my last reading as 394.30 mlU/L

    Quote Originally Posted by Sfla80 View Post
    Ugh this thing sucks for.me. I don't know if I bought a cheap one. But I can't even split a dex evenly in half let alone 1/4s
    I have one of these too and I find it to be waste of a few bucks, what I use is a well-washed razor blade and a small wooden chop board so pils dont slide and cut pretty nice this way. It may have been I just got a bad quality pill cutter.

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    IM, my prolactin was 487 with a range of 2.0 - 18.0 mg/ml

    Regarding the pill splitters, I'm fine splitting those little Arimidex into halves, but any smaller, forget it. I prefer a very small scalpel. I use them to shave the callouses off my hands - of course I use a different one for pill splitting. I found I can cut the Adex into eigths that way (.125 mg.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Youthful55guy View Post
    Actually, the % T in T esters makes a huge difference. If you inject 100 mg of T-Cyp you get 100 X 0.68 = 68 mg of Testosterone . If you inject the same amount of T-Prop, you get 100 X 0.84 = 84 mg of Testosterone. That's 47% more T on a mg per mg basis.

    As you point out, the half life also makes a big difference, because the T-Cyp delivered T enters the system at about half the speed as the T-Prop delivered T.
    I have a hard time thinking a doctor would put you on T-Prop for HRT as it requires more pinning
    and has such a short 1/2 life...the idea is to replace your T and maintain levels, not to
    overload and replenish.

    I take T-cyp 100mg a week,
    250 Hcg the day before T
    200 mg DIM morn and eve
    600 mg NAC morn and eve

    T 38nmol....1100 total
    estriol ...114

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon1972 View Post

    problem solved.
    i have one of these and it is a pain...
    I use an exacto knife now, keep it clean,
    and it splits them cleanly...the pill cutters difficulty
    was trying to get the pill centered, it was always off the
    cut line, and forget about quartering

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post
    IM, my prolactin was 487 with a range of 2.0 - 18.0 mg/ml

    Regarding the pill splitters, I'm fine splitting those little Arimidex into halves, but any smaller, forget it. I prefer a very small scalpel. I use them to shave the callouses off my hands - of course I use a different one for pill splitting. I found I can cut the Adex into eigths that way (.125 mg.)
    Oh man that means mega high so I for this reason have to forget about my prolactin level being of a concern at all, even it was at the top mark

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    bump for people to share their protocol.... TY

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    I dont want to spam bumping it empty-handed, so I may as well share my protocol that I have started from today on:

    75mg Test-E + 250iu HCG E3.5D

    Cant say where it will put me, about month in I will have bloods and will see from there.

    So, BUMP
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    100 mg Test Cyp Sunday and Wednesday. 250 iu hCG eod. Currently on .25 Adex 24 hours after pinning. Previously I was at 1100 total t and 9 E2 with .5 adex 2x per week. I have redone bloods since dropping the Adex down to .25. My E2 was low to start. All my other number looked good. Hemocrit was maybe 1 or 2 points high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon1972 View Post
    Can you please keep your posts on topic and stop filling this thread with useless posts. Go to the social threads if you need to get your posts up
    youthful55guy has more knowledge about TRT that you will ever have Simon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon1972 View Post
    me?! You're the one with a cock in your profile picture! lol- but seriously- i might have a go at HCG and see for myself- the supplements just dont work as adequately as id like.....and no, im too fond of the ladies!
    But Simon is such a gay name! If you really are more fond of the ladies, it would not surprise me if you are one of those loser white guys with an asian wife!

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    I'm not sure why but sometimes I feel so weak I have trouble breathing...I'm starting to wonder whether I've crushed cortisol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    I'm not sure why but sometimes I feel so weak I have trouble breathing...I'm starting to wonder whether I've crushed cortisol.
    Is your rbc ok? When was the last time you checked it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyByU View Post
    But Simon is such a gay name! If you really are more fond of the ladies, it would not surprise me if you are one of those loser white guys with an asian wife!
    Are you sizing up to me ? i hope you are trying to be funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneMuscle View Post
    Is your rbc ok? When was the last time you checked it?
    Two weeks ago, HCT 43%. No way I'm going to develop high hematocrit due to an hereditary genetic defect (beta thalassemia minor) that shortens the average life of red cells, in fact I was dealing with mild anaemia until last december.

    Everything else (liver, renal, electrolytes) is OK. The issue isn't likely "physical"...

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    Ive been on 160mg/wk with .25dex 2x a week and 350iu hcg 2x a week. Put me over 1200 with e2 around 25.

    I cut myself back to 80mg/wk, no adex and no hcg. Sit around 800, e2 still around 25.

    I actually feel better on the lower dose

    Im an odd case for sure. Hcg actually caused me shrinkage, and i felt worse taking it. I dont care much about fertility.

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    My initial values for TT, FT, E2 were 302, 12.0, 19.1.

    Initially my TRT protocol was 105mg test-cyp twice per week, 1000iu hCG twice per week, 1mg adex twice per week. Following that for about 7 weeks my T levels were astronomical and E2 fell even further to 2645, 37, 17.5. I was beginning to have low E2 sides - achy joints, dry skin, itchy scalp, etc. so I lowered by adex dose by half and immediately my libido went from completely nonexistent to wanting to f*** inanimate objects.

    I've since cut my hCG dose in half and changed adex dosing to 0.5mg EOD. Trying this out for a while, and haven't gotten new blood work yet but I feel great and the acne and oily skin issues as well as low E2 issues I saw initially have disappeared. Libido is still extremely high but not completely unmanageable like it was before. Will probably get blood work again in 3-4 weeks after my levels stabilize since switching to sub-q injection.

    In the future I also plan to drop to between 100mg and 150mg per week of T, depending on how my next labs look, but right now I'm recovering from a major surgery so the healing benefits of higher T are very much welcome at this phase. I'm also enjoying some much needed fat loss, with little to no effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hawk14dl View Post
    Ive been on 160mg/wk with .25dex 2x a week and 350iu hcg 2x a week. Put me over 1200 with e2 around 25.

    I cut myself back to 80mg/wk, no adex and no hcg. Sit around 800, e2 still around 25.

    I actually feel better on the lower dose

    Im an odd case for sure. Hcg actually caused me shrinkage, and i felt worse taking it. I dont care much about fertility.
    That's good information, thanks. I've recently been reading a lot of posts from guys on other forums who are doing great on 80mg total per week. Are you splitting your dose into 40mg twice a week or do you just inject 80mg once a week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charger Hemi View Post
    This is my protocol:
    100mg Test. Cyp. - twice per week (day 1 and day 4)
    Anastrozole 0.5mg - twice per week (day 2 and day 5)
    HCG 500 IU - twice per week (day 6 and day 7)
    how are your labs with this protocol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by waylaid69 View Post
    That's good information, thanks. I've recently been reading a lot of posts from guys on other forums who are doing great on 80mg total per week. Are you splitting your dose into 40mg twice a week or do you just inject 80mg once a week?
    40mg twice per week, subq

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