First time blood work help

[Will77]

Observations
Result
Reference / UoM
Date/Status
WHITE BLOOD CELL COUNT1
6.3
3.8-10.8 k/uL
08/31/2016 06:54 am
RBC 1
5.21
4.20-5.80 Million/uL
08/31/2016 06:54 am
Hemoglobin 1
15.7
13.2-17.1 g/dL
08/31/2016 06:54 am
Hematocrit 1
47.8
38.5-50.0 %
08/31/2016 06:54 am
MCV 1
91.6
80.0-100.0 fL
08/31/2016 06:54 am
MCH 1
30.2
27.0-33.0 pg
08/31/2016 06:54 am
MCHC 1
33.0
32.0-36.0 g/dL
08/31/2016 06:54 am
Red Cell Distribution 1
12.6
11.0-15.0 %
08/31/2016 06:54 am
Platelet Count 1
159
140-400 k/uL
08/31/2016 06:54 am
Mean Platelet Volume 1
9.4
7.5-11.5 fL
08/31/2016 06:54 am
Absolute Neutrophils 1
3282
1500-7800 Cells/uL
08/31/2016 06:54 am
Absolute Lymphocytes 1
2375
850-3900 Cells/uL
08/31/2016 06:54 am
Absolute Monocytes 1
473
200-950 Cells/uL
08/31/2016 06:54 am
Absolute Eosinophils 1
139
15-500 Cells/uL
08/31/2016 06:54 am
Absolute Basophils 1
32
0-200 Cells/uL
08/31/2016 06:54 am
Segmented Neutrophils 1
52.1
%
08/31/2016 06:54 am
Lymphocytes 1
37.7
%
08/31/2016 06:54 am
Monocytes 1
7.5
%
08/31/2016 06:54 am
Eosinophils 1
2.2
%
08/31/2016 06:54 am
Basophils 1
0.5
%
08/31/2016 06:54 am
Observations
Result
Reference / UoM
Date/Status
Cholesterol 1
158
125-200 mg/dL
08/31/2016 06:54 am
Triglycerides 1
279
0-150 mg/dL
Above high normal
08/31/2016 06:54 am
HDL CHOLESTEROL 1
50
40-199 mg/dL
08/31/2016 06:54 am
CHOL/HDLC RATIO 1
3.16
0.0-5.00
08/31/2016 06:54 am
LDL (Calculated) 1
52
0-130 mg/dL
08/31/2016 06:54 am
Non-HDL Cholesterol 1
108
0-159 mg/dL
08/31/2016 06:54 am
Vendor note:
Desireable range <100 mg/dL for patients with CHDor diabetes and <70 mg/dL for diabetic patients witknown heart disease.Target for non-HDL cholesterol is30 mg/dL higher than LDL- Cholesteroltarget.
Observations
Result
Reference / UoM
Date/Status
Testosterone 1
258
250-827 ng/dL
08/31/2016 06:54 am
Vendor note:
Men with clinically significant hypogonadal symptomsand testosterone values repeatedly less thanapproximately 300 ng/dL may benefit from testosteroneOuttreatment after adequate risk and benefits counseling.*************************************** *****************************PATIENT COMMENTS:FASTINGOrdering Physician: SAVILLE, CORI L

[Will77]

39 years old, Dr says 250 test cyp, AI,And in 6 weeks start hcg

[Simon1972]

Too high , start at 150mg a week, at 250 you will blunt your androgen receptors in time.

150 should get you to the high side of the range constantly., and you may not need an AI...6 weeks for bloods is good.

inject twice a week 75mg each injection.


did the dr investigate why your T was low?

your tryglicerides are high- you eat a high carb diet yes?

[Will77]

The doctor said 6 weeks do more blood work, he gave me a shot yesterday 250 cyp said I will get the AI on Tuesday with explanation on how to use, I'm currently cleaning up my diet, carbs I guess are a problem in the form of candy. Looking forward to getting energy levels up and just over all health improvement

[Simon1972]

as i said before- trytglicerides are too high- cut out as many carbs as much as possible and replace it with cruciferous veges and leans meats and healthy fats.

your body is using carbs as the energy source and fats are left unvetted in your body, instead of your body utilising them for energy- this change will result in you shedding weight.

if you can, inject yourself- subcutaneously and save the excess testosterone - 250mg once a week will spike you too high and increase your haemetocrit which is also up there even without TRT. drop itto 120-150mg split into 2x week injections.

i take it your dr is an MD and not a trt specialist?

[Will77]

Hey Simon 1972, I will definitely continue to work on my diet, damn sunflower seeds are gonna be the death of me lol,the dr is actually a trt specialist ,its a anti aging place, I'm new to this but I will ask for the cause of my results,why my testosterone levels are so low, like you stated in the earlier post, I was given a box of test cyp each vial has 250 in it so after the holiday weekend I will bring up these concerns, I know the one thing was fish oil twice a day was told to me is important.

[Simon1972]

Trust me on the carbs. Cut out bread and sugar an rice as much as possible. See how your tryglicerides move on that. You'll be surprised.

[Mr.BB]

Trust me on the carbs. Cut out bread and sugar an rice as much as possible. See how your tryglicerides move on that. You'll be surprised.

A much healthier (and faster) solution will be to drastically reduced fat intake.

[charger69]

Trust me on the carbs. Cut out bread and sugar an rice as much as possible. See how your tryglicerides move on that. You'll be surprised.

Limit the amount of red meat and try the leanest cuts when you do eat red meat.

[Will77]

Just got my airimadex, Dr said take .50mg twice a week, one because my estrogen levels are high and two because I'm doing 250 test cyp once a week. I'm going to do blood in 6 weeks again so I guess will see.

[Simon1972]

A much healthier (and faster) solution will be to drastically reduced fat intake.

have to disagree, saturated fats are beneficial to the body and actually promote nutrient uptake when coupled with carb removal, ive never dieted in my whole life , i just tried removing carbs and saw my cholesterol drop by 30% and i eat 3 scrambled eggs and 4 shortcut rashes of bacon daily religiously for breakfast from a local diner.

its the carbs i removed that exhibit the biggest recomposition in my body i have ever seen.
basically eat only one energy source, carbs vs fats. ..aand remember fats bring cholesterol, and cholesterol converts to progesterone > dhea >Testosterone etc etc etc..

carbs do not convert to any hormones.

[Mr.BB]

have to disagree, saturated fats are beneficial to the body and actually promote nutrient uptake when coupled with carb removal, ive never dieted in my whole life , i just tried removing carbs and saw my cholesterol drop by 30% and i eat 3 scrambled eggs and 4 shortcut rashes of bacon daily religiously for breakfast from a local diner.

its the carbs i removed that exhibit the biggest recomposition in my body i have ever seen.
basically eat only one energy source, carbs vs fats. ..aand remember fats bring cholesterol, and cholesterol converts to progesterone > dhea >Testosterone etc etc etc..

carbs do not convert to any hormones.

All that your cells use for energy is sugar, either from carbs or fats, all needs to be transformed to glucose.

Triglycerides are the fat molecules in our blood, either being tranported to or from fat deposits. Triglycerides can be exogenous or endogenous, you are saying to reduce endogenous triglycerides (reducing carbs you get less triglycerides production in your body), I'm saying to reduce exogenous triglycerides (eating less fat you get less triglycerides).

IMO (and I have to say in current accepted medical practices) most ppl with high hypertriglyceridemia have exogenous reasons (SAD diet hello), so the 1st line of treatment it is to reduce it and promote a healthy eating (reduce processed foods, simple sugars and fats) and healthy living (promote sports and stress reduction).

Of course, that for athletes and bodybuilders things can be different cause we are trying to change our bodies, but to say to that the solution to hypertriglyceridemia is to remove carbs (either simple or slow complex carbs) is not the healthiest one.

Please dont come with the hormones and fat myth, not even going to address that nonsense.

[Mr.BB]

OP, with triglyc at 279 your blood looks more or less like this:

[Simon1972]

Respect where its due BB. I agree in the whole with what you say. But the op isn't a bodybuilder.I have posted the pathway for reference. Like I said when carbs are reduced, fat becomes primary energy source and doesn't remain as a left over for the body to store. Fats are more beneficial for human health than carbs, especially when caloric expenditure is low.in the million or so years of evolution, readily available/ingested carbs are a recent introduction to our diets.
I'm sure both approaches work, I'm just a huge fan from what I've perso ally experienced. Being cut and chiseled at 44, not since I was in my early 20s and I don't even try.

[Mr.BB]

That's great it works for you, and its great to have these discussions.

Although I disagree with your ideas ... but hey, we don't need to agree on everything.

Both fat and carbs are energy for the body, they are both important, dont understand why you say fats are more beneficial. A diet with zero either carbs or fats is not sustainable or healthy.
The only carbs recently introduced in humans are processed carbs, fructose and some forms of starch have always been around.

As for the hormonal pathway... hey, the guy from which that blood came in pic above should be full of testosterone , huh? Not really, this myth that if you eat fat you have more testosterone needs to end. Just look at the units for cholesterol and testosterone in your bloodwork and think a little bit about it (mg/dL vs ng/dL)...

[Simon1972]

As for the hormonal pathway... hey, the guy from which that blood came in pic above should be full of testosterone, huh? Not really, this myth that if you eat fat you have more testosterone needs to end. Just look at the units for cholesterol and testosterone in your bloodwork and think a little bit about it (mg/dL vs ng/dL)...

nope- i bet my left testicle he was a carb eater- he ate so much pizza and coke it converted to fat. lol

the hormonal pathway- isnt something that you can change- its a process all our bodies work thru by way of enzymes between the various stages.

just by way of interest , have a read when you get a chance, and listen to the latest Joe Rogen podcast

Joe Rogan (Podcast Site) goes for 2.5 hrs but im addicted to these.

https://chriskresser.com/the-diet-he...not-the-enemy/

hope we havent scienced the OP to death....where are you OP!??

[Mr.BB]

nope- i bet my left testicle he was a carb eater- he ate so much pizza and coke it converted to fat. lol

the hormonal pathway- isnt something that you can change- its a process all our bodies work thru by way of enzymes between the various stages.

just by way of interest , have a read when you get a chance, and listen to the latest Joe Rogen podcast

Joe Rogan (Podcast Site) goes for 2.5 hrs but im addicted to these.

https://chriskresser.com/the-diet-he...not-the-enemy/

hope we havent scienced the OP to death....where are you OP!??

I see, paleo. Its just marketing IMO, not what humans back there actually ate (tried to survive on).

You missed my point on the hormones and fat. 1mg of cholesterol is enough for making 1000000ng testosterone ....

[Will77]

Hey I'm still here Simon and BB ,I'm very appreciative for your post, though you might as well be speaking another language because I have no idea what your talking about it has made me start doing my own research online trying to understand, yesterday I started doing something new and cutting off the fat from my chicken before I marinate and cook , I've also looked into healthy carbs sweet potatoes, quinoa, jasmine rice..cut out the snacks..I'm excited to post my next blood work and see if I made the correct changes

[Will77]

I have to say the airimadex has given me the worst headaches, I've always been sensitive to medication, they've always worked or kicked in fast since I never take anything, how long will this take place,? Currently doing. 50 mg wed. and sat. Dreading taking one tomorrow

[Simon1972]

0.5mg or 50mg arimdex?
Also work out your tdee and eat less than you need to get into a ketogenic state. You also want to activate the enzymes that break down and convert your own body fat as energy. This will occur after you have exhausted the carbs you ate in your diet as your body will use the carbs as a primary energy source before defaulting to your own body fat. Good luck

[Will77]

0.5, for such a small pill it's kicking my butt.