Cycle while on TRT

[Quester]

What are the considerations regarding cycling while on TRT?

Maybe dianabol 20 mg/ED for 4 weeks
and up TRT dosage of test-c 200mg to 400mg for 8 weeks.

This would provide a start date immediately after the 3month check up and end date 1month before next check.

[Quester]

So, it occurred to me, during my walk, that could end up in permanent shutdown and I still want to have kids (maybe with the help of HCG if

necessary). I suppose the only way to go is to do a proper PCT and stay off HRT for a while. Cost-Benefit analysis will take a while.

[kelkel]

If you need TRT then stay on TRT. Simply add HCG . Read this, particularly the HCG section:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4378070/

[LeeSin1]

Yes HCG will help if you still desire kids

[Quester]

Thanks, good article.

The gist of my supposition:

To cycle while on TRT (in other words, TRT-Cycle-and right back to TRT) will probably result in complete shutdown. Because, there would

be no restart of the HPTA and the limited functioning that HPTA has on TRT (enhanced by HCG , during or after-for the purpose of

spermatogenisis to have children) would be lost.

[kelkel]

There is no hpta function on TRT, limited or otherwise. Your Hypothalamus and Pituitary are shut down and your testicals receive no stimulation (signals) from them. Testicular function is then due to hcg mimicking LH/FSH, not supporting it.

[Obs]

So, it occurred to me, during my walk, that could end up in permanent shutdown and I still want to have kids (maybe with the help of HCG if

necessary). I suppose the only way to go is to do a proper PCT and stay off HRT for a while. Cost-Benefit analysis will take a while.

Freeze semen while you can then blast off??

[hammerheart]

Quester you need to stabilize things with your TRT first then think of blasting, don't overdo things, let your system regain homeostasis.

[Quester]

I will stabilize. I did a seamen analysis three weeks ago and its looks great. My intent was to freeze some but the fertility doc(endo?) said not to worry. In two to four years, on TRT, I could come back and he could get me off TRT, use HCG , and I'll make babies.

[kelkel]

You need to be on TRT now, not 4 years from now. Instead your doc "hopes" to fix the problem years down the road. Not smart.

[Obs]

I will stabilize. I did a seamen analysis three weeks ago and its looks great. My intent was to freeze some but the fertility doc(endo?) said not to worry. In two to four years, on TRT, I could come back and he could get me off TRT, use HCG, and I'll make babies.

Does your doc know you may blast? I know I will be sterile before my natural time. Luckily I am done having kids but I would freeze some if I had any question

[Quester]

Hey y'all,
I appreciate the concern. I'm not planning on a blast, I was just wondering about the issues involved. After having read what y'all said earlier, which makes complete sense to me, I dropped the idea. Perhaps we get used to hearing people not willing to accept good advice. That's not the case here. I'm not into jeopardizing health or resources (relations with trt doc) for short term gratification. The comment regarding HCG was in reference to what a doc told me we could do to make babies after years of trt (no blast).
Thanks guys

[Obs]

Hey y'all,
I appreciate the concern. I'm not planning on a blast, I was just wondering about the issues involved. After having read what y'all said earlier, which makes complete sense to me, I dropped the idea. Perhaps we get used to hearing people not willing to accept good advice. That's not the case here. I'm not into jeopardizing health or resources (relations with trt doc) for short term gratification. The comment regarding HCG was in reference to what a doc told me we could do to make babies after years of trt (no blast).
Thanks guys

Good luck man