Out of Breath

**Score** · 05-25-2014, 08:44 PM

Is there something related to trt that could cause me to be short of breath?

Not having a heart attack or anything just seem to get winded easily. Veins in head (head is shaved) and neck seem more vascular as well. BP was normal at last check up and symptoms were present a well.

I don't do cardio but in the best shape of my life

**Times Roman** · 05-25-2014, 08:53 PM

try walking around the park at night to improve your lack of windiness

everything else you said seems normal

**ppwc1985** · 05-25-2014, 09:21 PM

Score idk how long you been on, but I know from about month 3-6 maybe a little longer I was the same way. Now into it just past my one year mark it's improved 100%. I associated it with my e being a little high.

**Bonaparte** · 05-25-2014, 10:01 PM

Either your estrogen is high and you need an AI (or a lower dose), or your hematocrit is elevated (I suspect the latter, based on the info you've given) . Get bloodwork done.

**Score** · 05-25-2014, 10:03 PM

I did walk tonight for the 1st time in awhile, shared the same thought.

Been on trt for approx 3 months, relieved to hear it could be related to be honest. A rapid breathing pattern may be a better description and as I lay in bed it feels like I have a 10lb plate on my chest. Nothing major just enough to make me think about breathing, like its a function I have to control rather than one that occurs automatically.

**ppwc1985** · 05-26-2014, 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by Score

I did walk tonight for the 1st time in awhile, shared the same thought. Been on trt for approx 3 months, relieved to hear it could be related to be honest. A rapid breathing pattern may be a better description and as I lay in bed it feels like I have a 10lb plate on my chest. Nothing major just enough to make me think about breathing, like its a function I have to control rather than one that occurs automatically.

Dam, that's the same thing happened to me. Honestly it scared the shit outta me, thought I was gonna have a heart attach. Get blood work, I know mine was high estrogen levels but feel great now so don't worry just get it checked with bloods like Bonaparte said. I believe it's most likely just your estrogen but I don't know your blood levels from earlier. My hemotocrit didn't go up that fast even though it is working its way up now. Good luck.

**Score** · 05-26-2014, 05:22 AM

Originally Posted by ppwc1985

Dam, that's the same thing happened to me. Honestly it scared the shit outta me, thought I was gonna have a heart attach. Get blood work, I know mine was high estrogen levels but feel great now so don't worry just get it checked with bloods like Bonaparte said. I believe it's most likely just your estrogen but I don't know your blood levels from earlier. My hemotocrit didn't go up that fast even though it is working its way up now. Good luck.

Going in 2 weeks for blood and may go early! Thanks! I didn't wake up dead so that's a good sign : ))

**ironbeck** · 05-26-2014, 05:25 AM

cardio...cardio...cardio

**xcraider37** · 05-26-2014, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by Score

Is there something related to trt that could cause me to be short of breath?

Not having a heart attack or anything just seem to get winded easily. Veins in head (head is shaved) and neck seem more vascular as well. BP was normal at last check up and symptoms were present a well.

I don't do cardio but in the best shape of my life

I know this will sound too simple but try drinking more water I guarantee it will solve your problem.

**Bonaparte** · 05-26-2014, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by xcraider37

I know this will sound too simple but try drinking more water I guarantee it will solve your problem.

Oh? And what assurance does this guarantee come with?
Shortness of breath and dehydration are rarely linked at all.

**xcraider37** · 05-26-2014, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

Oh? And what assurance does this guarantee come with?
Shortness of breath and dehydration are rarely linked at all.

Your the smart one you figure it out. JA

**lovbyts** · 05-27-2014, 02:49 AM

Originally Posted by xcraider37

Your the smart one you figure it out. JA

Wow, what's with all the attitudes the last few days? It seems a lot of people are getting their feelings hurt easily. It might not be only the OP who needs to get their E2 checked.

**xcraider37** · 05-27-2014, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

Wow, what's with all the attitudes the last few days? It seems a lot of people are getting their feelings hurt easily. It might not be only the OP who needs to get their E2 checked.

@lovbytes I don't think this is the place to bash the advice others give when clearly Bonaparte did not read all of the OP's symptoms, then bashed my comments, funny how the responder always gets the criticism, Bonaparte needs to do more research prior to posting, ever heard of Google? Clearly water does more for our bodies than just hydrate. I base most of my post on my personal journey on TRT and had the exact same symptoms as OP. Enough said.

**sfgiantsfan55** · 05-27-2014, 11:14 AM

sounds like your hematocrit is too high.. same thng happened to me, never experienced it until about 1 year into trt.... was huffing and puffing for no reason.... also bear in mind that whatever the NORMAL range is maybe not be normal to you, so, if its elevated at all from YOUR norm, probably the culprit.. my hemat wasnt like at "critical' per lab values but i sure as hell noticed.. dontae some whole blood u will feel like a million bucks.

**Score** · 05-27-2014, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by xcraider37

@lovbytes I don't think this is the place to bash the advice others give when clearly Bonaparte did not read all of the OP's symptoms, then bashed my comments, funny how the responder always gets the criticism, Bonaparte needs to do more research prior to posting, ever heard of Google? Clearly water does more for our bodies than just hydrate. I base most of my post on my personal journey on TRT and had the exact same symptoms as OP. Enough said.

I drink water all day long, but oddly the last month my urine has been bright yellow, typically it's crystal clear. Not sure where the water is going but I do seem to be processing it different.

**xcraider37** · 05-27-2014, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by Score

I drink water all day long, but oddly the last month my urine has been bright yellow, typically it's crystal clear. Not sure where the water is going but I do seem to be processing it different.

Any supplements? Cialis, viagra or NO (arginine) products? Alcohol use?

**Score** · 05-27-2014, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by xcraider37

Any supplements? Cialis, viagra or NO (arginine) products? Alcohol use?

None of the above. Started pregnenolone and DHEA a few weeks ago

**Bonaparte** · 05-27-2014, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by xcraider37

I know this will sound too simple but try drinking more water I guarantee it will solve your problem.

Originally Posted by Score

I drink water all day long, but oddly the last month my urine has been bright yellow, typically it's crystal clear. Not sure where the water is going but I do seem to be processing it different.

Are you feeling foolish yet, xcraider?
Just because increased water intake may have helped you, this does not mean that the cure for all shortness of breath is drinking a shitload of water. You are a sample group of 1, and therefore practically useless as a statistic (especially since you have presented no rationale or logic behind your claim).

How does increasing fluid intake cure high E2 or polycemia?
At best, it may mask the problem temporarily.

The problem could also be anxiety related. The symptoms fit, and mild anxiety from testosterone use isn't unheard of.

Oh wait, my apologies. I forgot that "enough said" had been declared...

**xcraider37** · 05-27-2014, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by bonaparte

are you feeling foolish yet, xcraider?
Just because increased water intake may have helped you, this does not mean that the cure for all shortness of breath is drinking a shitload of water. You are a sample group of 1, and therefore practically useless as a statistic (especially since you have presented no rationale or logic behind your claim).

How does increasing fluid intake cure high e2 or polycemia?
At best, it may mask the problem temporarily.

The problem could also be anxiety related. The symptoms fit, and mild anxiety from testosterone use isn't unheard of.

Oh wait, my apologies. I forgot that "enough said" had been declared...

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**tripperdogg** · 05-28-2014, 08:46 AM

Hey score, I just went through a bout like what ur experiencing. Definetly get blood work with e2. My dosage was the same for over a year and my e2 was always alittle high. Well , I hadn't had follow up b/w for about a year and my e2 crept up as well as my hemoglobin. I give blood every 2 months and am due in about 2 weeks. So I decreased my twice a week dosage to almost half of what I was taking before and took 3 small doses of liquidex from ar-r . Got my bloodworm back and had my e 2 back down and test numbers still in the high 780 range. Get b/ w ASAP and decrease your dosage until you get your results back. Adjust from there. I'm no expert, but this worked for me. When I decreased my dosage and took the liquidex. I dropped 9 lbs. of water weight in 7 days. Hope this helps. Good luck

**Score** · 05-28-2014, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by tripperdogg

Hey score, I just went through a bout like what ur experiencing. Definetly get blood work with e2. My dosage was the same for over a year and my e2 was always alittle high. Well , I hadn't had follow up b/w for about a year and my e2 crept up as well as my hemoglobin. I give blood every 2 months and am due in about 2 weeks. So I decreased my twice a week dosage to almost half of what I was taking before and took 3 small doses of liquidex from ar-r. Got my bloodworm back and had my e 2 back down and test numbers still in the high 780 range. Get b/ w ASAP and decrease your dosage until you get your results back. Adjust from there. I'm no expert, but this worked for me. When I decreased my dosage and took the liquidex. I dropped 9 lbs. of water weight in 7 days. Hope this helps. Good luck

Calling the doc tomorrow to verify e2 is being checked and going in Tuesday for BW, thanks for all the advice everyone.

Donating blood is something I hoped to avoid, sounds inevitable!