Crashed hard. Overall unwell. Fatigue, back pain, headaches and general exhaustion.

[AppleGoogle]

Hi. This might be a long story but I hope someone here and offer some suggestions to my situation and also answer some questions I have regarding what to get in terms of my blood work.

About 3 months ago. I stopped taking Anavar without slowly coming off the dosage. I had some reactions which was a combination of anxiety/panic attacks and extreme exhaustion and fatigue.

I had several blood tests down and for a short period was given some medication for my high blood pressure which gave me strong headaches. During this time my results showed abnormally high cortisol levels which didn't seem to lower throughout the day.

Initiall blood test showed 29 in the morning when the range was 8-19. About 3 weeks later it was 25 AM and 25 in the PM. All my symptoms pointed to Adrenal Fatigue and/or cushing syndrome. My testosterone was initial 180, 240 and now 340 (348-1197 range).

My overal strength was extremely low. I went through a period with shortness of breath, tightness in the chest which mimic panic/anxiety attack. With my general tiredness I couldn't work out at all and trying would trigger all the symptoms of anxiety attack. I was so tired at one point dreaded walking anywhere or up a flight of stairs. Also headaches made thinking clearly difficult. This occurred for about 6 weeks and now (3 months). I am better than initially but not 100%.

I have seen endocrinologist and a neurologist. MRI showed I have partial empty sella and mild spondylitic changes, duffles panasal sinus mucosal changes. Ultrasound showed thyroid slightly large (size) but no issues. At this point now I have had strong migraine like headaches and strong pain in the lower back. It was strong for 2 weeks but now not as intense. On occasion I feel weak grip, numb and strained feeling on my forearms and hands. I started taking Vitamin D and Calcium.

My only guess is coming off of anavar but besides that, there isn't much else I can point my finger to. Initial endo suggested I have stress and I need to relax.

I just got my latest blood work and it is as follows:

Testosterone 340 (348-1197)
Free Test 1.8 (1.5-3.2)
Free Test serum 60 (52-280)
TSH 1.120 (0.450-4.50)
Androstendione 59 (52-280)
Coritsol AM 13 (8.0-19)
Cortisol Midnight 0.025 (<0.010 - 0.090)
Dehydioepiandrosterne serum 240 (31-701)
Prolactin 17 (3-18)
Grownth Hormone (ICMA) 0.208 (range <6)
Sex Hormone Binding Globulin 17.1 (Range 16.5 - 55.9)
T4 1.63 (0.82-1.77)
Luteinizing Hormone (LH) 3.7 (1.7-1.8)
FSH 3.9 (1.5 - 12.4)
ACTH 20.3 (7.2-63.3)

Currently I have been prescribed Clomid to get my Testosterone level up but really no diagnosis or suggestions.

I am going back to ask about spondylitic changes from the MRI but that relates to spine and pain. My overall feeling is fatigue and slight back pain and headaches. The headaches causes me to be irritable and my libido is low. This is generally constant. Neck strain as well. I thought it was cushing syndrome and adrenal fatigue but Dr. does not think so. For Adrenal insufficiency I was given a suppression test which I passed.

My questions is as follows:

If I get more blood work, what specifics should I ask for. I notice people asking for creatine, iron, magnesium, should I do the same, what would these indicate?

Anyone have suggestions on what might be causing my overall unwell feeling? I have started to try to get do some stretching exercises because I was basically unwell feeling and not much energy. I get tired in the afternoon. My appetite is low and have lost some weight but I do eat.

Do I have adrenal fatigue? What could it be? symptoms are similar.

Any suggestions would be great thanks.

[AppleGoogle]

Hoping a bump will generate some help.

[Beethoven]

You left out your age.

[kelkel]

Do you realize that anavar by itself is suppressive of your natural testosterone production?
High cortisol will also suppress natural test levels. Vit C helps with cortisol btw.

Reducing the Risks of High Cortisol - Life Extension

What clomid dosage have you been prescribed?

[lovbyts]

You left out your age.

30 according to profile.

How long were you taking the anavar ?

I'm sure like a lot of people you read how MILD anavar is and you dont need to take test or a pct. Well you are finding out the hard way that it was a lie. We tell people probably 10x a day if not more who think it's OK to do anavar alone that it's not a good idea.

Hopefully your HPTA will recover but it may take a while. Hopefully you dont end up on TRT, that would suck at 30.

Good luck and keep us posted.

[Mr.BB]

Your natural testosterone got shut down by the anavar , and you are having side effects of crashed testosterone levels .

If you had done some research about anavar you would know that it should be taken with testosterone to prevent the exact thing you are experiencing.

You might want to speed up the recovery by doing a standard pct protocol, clomid+nolvadex , 100-50-50-50+40-20-20-20.

Did you told you doctor you took anavar?

[AppleGoogle]

Hi.

Thanks for all the comments. To answer some questions, I tool anavar for a period of 8 weeks. Took a month off, another for 8 weeks.. and 1.5 months off and 6 weeks which I stopped abruptly because of the panic attack like symptoms with crazy fatigue and exhaustion.

Lovbyts, could you tell me more about HPTA and if there are tests and readings I should look out for?

I have been prescribed climid 25mg/day for 3 months. Currently starting my second week. I feel better but I have headaches and takes me a little while to 'fully' awake in the morning. I usually spend 30-40min doing stretches and light exercises every day as well.

Yes i informed my doctor about he anavar but didn't mention anything.

My test levels have slowly been raising naturally.. 180 to 240 to 340 over a period of 2 months.

I am curious if you can suggest which specific blood work I can request. Should I include Estrogen? I have not included this in the past but wonder if it would be beneficial to include it. I have heard E2 and Estrogen but not sure what is the difference and details. If I have high levels should I include novadex or are there other benefits?

Question for you. Does a crash of T levels give me all the symptoms I have described??

Currently waiting for blood work for my Vitamin D, Mag, Iron.. etc. Will hear back hopefully next week.
Thanks

[Mr.BB]

Explanation of HPTA / Endocrine System & How Steroids Affect You

Cycles without Testosterone: Why you should avoid them at all costs

[AppleGoogle]

Thanks for the links I will check them out.

Regarding my current blood work results:

Prolactin 17 (3-18)
Luteinizing Hormone (LH) 3.7 (1.7-1.8)

Should I be worried about LH or Prolactin? What do they effect? Any incite would be great. Thanks