Share your protocol..... for TRT

[xcraider37]

60 mg. test cyp. 2x per wk. anastrozole when needed, no more than a .25 tab at a time. This keeps my total Test over 800 and e2 in mid 30s. Last bw Total t - 862 Bio t - 557 Free t - 206 % free - 2.4 Estradiol - 33

[InternalFire]

60 mg. test cyp. 2x per wk. anastrozole when needed, no more than a .25 tab at a time. This keeps my total Test over 800 and e2 in mid 30s. Last bw Total t - 862 Bio t - 557 Free t - 206 % free - 2.4 Estradiol - 33

Also subQ?

[xcraider37]

Also subQ?

No not subq.

[Youthful55guy]

Finally got over 25 posts. Hopefully this one won't get rejected as SPAM. Sorry for my earlier tantrum, I was frustrated that I spent so much time putting it together because I thought I had something to contribute.

As I mentioned earlier, different T esters have different amounts of T on a mg basis, so it is important to understand not only how much you are injecting, but also how much T it is actually delivering. Most guys use T-cyp (68.2% T), but some use T-eth (72.0% T), and a few of us blend in T-prop (83.7% T). My original TRT doc (a guy well known in the A4M community) got me started on this 4+ years ago. T-prop not only delivers more T on a per mg basis, but also has a much bigger kick because it delivers it more rapidly, which results in a more natural daily rhythm of peaks and naidars. Anyway, I like it and it works well with my daily injection protocol. I'm a big advocate of injecting small amounts on a more frequent basis rather than the superphysiological amounts needed with outdated weekly or less frequent protocols.

PROTOCOL (@ last test)
Compounded T mix of 180/20 mg/mL T-Cyp/T-Prop
Inject 0.07 mL daily (delivers 10 mg molecular T per day)
5 mg of Stanozolol AM & PM (10 mg/day) to lower SHBG
Anastrozole: 0.75 mg/week (dropper method @ about 0.11 mg/day)
HCG 100 IU/day (50 IU AM & 50 IU PM mixed with HGH
HGH 2 IU/day (1 IU AM & 1 IU PM SQ)
Armour Thyroid: 60 mg (1 grain) per day

LABS
Total T 809 (348-1197 ng/dL)
SHBG 16.5 (19.3-76.4 nmol/L)
Free T 23.4 (7.2-24 pg/mL)
E2 (sensitive) 23.3 (8-35 pg/mL)
IGF-1 224 (50-194 ng/mL)

Notes:
I've been using TRT for ~5 years and protocol has evolved over time
I am neither primary nor secondary, my problem is with excessively high SHBG and low Free T
SHBG without Stanozolol treatment is normally in the 70-80 range
All ranges are for a 50-60 year old male
Started HGH 6 weeks prior to test and baseline was 121 ng/mL

[hammerheart]

70-80 for SHBG? Wow, I was thinking I got it bad with 66. Adding an AI solved the problem for me. Last reading was 27, still some way to go.

[Youthful55guy]

I even tried crashing my E2 down to <5 and still almost no effect on SHBG. I've tried just about everything on the internet for controlling it, but the only thing that I've found that works for me is Stanozolol , and it's extremely effective at low doses.

[Keep_It_Moving]

This is my protocol:
100mg Test. Cyp. - twice per week (day 1 and day 4)
Anastrozole 0.5mg - twice per week (day 2 and day 5)
HCG 500 IU - twice per week (day 6 and day 7)

I think my protocol will be like yours....does the .5mg adex not crash your e?

[InternalFire]

Would people care to share their body fat % along with with their protocol?

I feel there should be a correlation where people have lower body fat (13% and less) little to no AI may be required to my understanding

[Keep_It_Moving]

Would people care to share their body fat % along with with their protocol?

I feel there should be a correlation where people have lower body fat (13% and less) little to no AI may be required to my understanding

i think my bf is around 12 or 15 not too sure what to compare it to...

[InternalFire]

I use calliper and body composition scales. At the moment I am ~13% average, obliques measure at 6% abs 13% chest and back 10%, but I will aim to be under 10% on the most stubborn places and in general will aim for single digit bf. with my trt will see if I can manage to be without AI by doing so

[Keep_It_Moving]

I use calliper and body composition scales. At the moment I am ~13% average, obliques measure at 6% abs 13% chest and back 10%, but I will aim to be under 10% on the most stubborn places and in general will aim for single digit bf. with my trt will see if I can manage to be without AI by doing so

the leaner you are the less ai is needed? is that correct?

[hawk14dl]

Im at about 13% now. Been as high as probably 17%. No need for an ai unless i go over about 120mg/week

[hammerheart]

the leaner you are the less ai is needed? is that correct?

As a rule of thumb yes... male aromatase is primarily expressed in adipose tissue, so the more the %bf the higher the degree of conversion.

My %bf (tape method) is about ~15. I should get hold of a caliper though.


At physiological levels (<= 800) probably I won't even need an AI.

[FakeLove]

250mg of Nebido (undecanoate) every two and a half weeks. This gives me roughly 920 ng/dl peak total T (range: 1055 - 288) and 570 ng/dl trough. SHBG is at the lower normal of the scale so free T is quite high.

0.25mg (1/4 pill) of Anastrozole every other day. This gives me E2 (trough, non sensitive) of 22 pg/mL, which is about the same as my natural non sensitive E2. My %bf is around 15.

Been on trt about 2 years and the protocol has evolved over time. Been splitting Nebido in four for over a year now. Originally I started splitting because a full dose (1000mg) gave high peaks and low troughs.

Now it works really good and I'm thinking of adding HCG 250IU twice a week.

[Justice4all]

Here's my original protocol that I have recent went back to.

Test C 120mg once a week
500 IU of HCG twice a week
0.5mg Arimidex once a week

Total Testosterone 775 ng/dL (348 - 1197)
Estradiol 56.5pg/mL (7.6 - 42.6) Standard Assay

Got my 27g pins so I'll be switching to Test C 60mg twice a week

[IncreaseMyT]

Excellent protocol have seen that and many versions like it work great. Personally wouldn't change it if you feel good.

[hammerheart]

Today I pinned HCG for the first time... went for subq, hope I don't get a huge lump as for test e (which lasted a month).

Schedule plan is 250IU three times per week.

[InternalFire]

Today I pinned HCG for the first time... went for subq, hope I don't get a huge lump as for test e (which lasted a month).

Schedule plan is 250IU three times per week.

that's exactly what is putting me off doing subq, as I lean out around my abs waist and back and I was thinking that would be some visible lump if it happened, as I do 75mg test-e (*30iu) and 250iu HCG (*50iu) E3.5D. I draw both compounds in to same syringe and then pin it all in to my glute, 3 weeks later all seems fine, never had a lump there or any major issues at all.

*from 100iu insulin syringe

[IncreaseMyT]

You guys should check into insulin syringe into the muscle tissue if you are that lean.

For instance delt.

[NACH3]

You guys should check into insulin syringe into the muscle tissue if you are that lean.

For instance delt.

Not too many people are that low in my experience - but to each their own(and when you are it's great)

I was at or just under 10% and still needed a 1.5" on my glutes haha tried 1" and it would never get into the muscle

[hammerheart]

I have some extra fat on glutes, so I need a 1.5 there. But for delts a slin pin is enough.

[NACH3]

Today I pinned HCG for the first time... went for subq, hope I don't get a huge lump as for test e (which lasted a month).

Schedule plan is 250IU three times per week.

I always go sub-q w/HCG - I don't like water based products/etc mixed with my oils... If you have a 5000iu vial of HCG - reconstitute it at 2ml... 1 unit is 250iu no reason for any lumps(usually from about .6+ml you'll receive those lumps)

[kelkel]

I have some extra fat on glutes, so I need a 1.5 there. But for delts a slin pin is enough.

Why would you need 1.5" for a low volume TRT dose of test?

[IncreaseMyT]

I never use over a 1 inch needle.

[hammerheart]

Why would you need 1.5" for a low volume TRT dose of test?

I don't, I haven't pinned glutes since nebido. I was just pointing out 1'' needle wouldn't be long enough for a proper IM.

I just happen to have a weird fat distribution. What I used were 1 1/4 needles anyway... I'm familiar with the metric system and inches sometimes confuse me.

I always go sub-q w/HCG - I don't like water based products/etc mixed with my oils... If you have a 5000iu vial of HCG - reconstitute it at 2ml... 1 unit is 250iu no reason for any lumps(usually from about .6+ml you'll receive those lumps)

I don't like the idea of mixing oil and water.. sounds like huge pip would result.

The problem I had is with oil quality, I tried some UGLs and test with EO resulted in a huge lump. It took a whole month for it to get resorbed, damn.

[kelkel]

I'm familiar with the metric system .

That would confuse the crap outta me.

[bass]

Protocol,

80 mgs twice a week SQ, 250 iu hCG twice a week one day after each test shot, IA 0.5 mg once a month,

Values,

TT= 850 on scale 348-1197
FT= 34 on scale 5-21
E2 sensitive= 19.7 on scale 8-35
IGF-1= 193 on scale 54-194

[Keep_It_Moving]

Why would you need 1.5" for a low volume TRT dose of test?

KelKel- whats your protocol and where does it land your values? thanks for sharing!

[Keep_It_Moving]

I never use over a 1 inch needle.

Same here, all 1 " ers here.

[Keep_It_Moving]

You guys should check into insulin syringe into the muscle tissue if you are that lean.

For instance delt.

Hey IMT- what is your protocol and where does it land your values? thanks for sharing....

[kelkel]

KelKel- whats your protocol and where does it land your values? thanks for sharing!

60 - 70 mgs x 2 per week. TT is usually 14 - 1500's and FT about 10 over range. E2 between 20 - 30 sensitive.
HCG 250 x 2 but will probably up to 3 x soon. I bounce around a bit here.

[Keep_It_Moving]

60 - 70 mgs x 2 per week. TT is usually 14 - 1500's and FT about 10 over range. E2 between 20 - 30 sensitive.
HCG 250 x 2 but will probably up to 3 x soon. I bounce around a bit here.

no ai needed huh?

[kelkel]

no ai needed huh?

Sorry, forgot to list it. .25 x 2.

[waylaid69]

Protocol,

80 mgs twice a week SQ, 250 iu hCG twice a week one day after each test shot, IA 0.5 mg once a month,

Values,

TT= 850 on scale 348-1197
FT= 34 on scale 5-21
E2 sensitive= 19.7 on scale 8-35
IGF-1= 193 on scale 54-194

Do you still take SARM S-4 or any other SARM bass?

[IncreaseMyT]

I change my protocol here and there. Sometimes I will go down to 1 TC shot every 10 days.

Here is where I am at right now:

TC 200mg 1x per week
GOAL 1ml per week
HCG +b12 750IU 1x per week
IPAM 200mcg (even split serm/ipam/ghrp2) 3x per day m-f

Every week or so I am going in to get a amino+glutathione IV bag.

~ Todd "IncreaseMyT" Thomas

[Keep_It_Moving]

I change my protocol here and there. Sometimes I will go down to 1 TC shot every 10 days.

Here is where I am at right now:

TC 200mg 1x per week
GOAL 1ml per week
HCG +b12 750IU 1x per week
IPAM 200mcg (even split serm/ipam/ghrp2) 3x per day m-f

Every week or so I am going in to get a amino+glutathione IV bag.

~ Todd "IncreaseMyT" Thomas

Thanks for sharing! =)

[bass]

Do you still take SARM S-4 or any other SARM bass?

fvck no. that shit is nasty and since i am on TRT i don't see a need for anything else to be honest, i'm not competing or doing shows, so there is no point of adding more drugs into my system. happy with what TRT alone is doing for me.

[bass]

another thing i forgot to mention is i was put on thyroid medication (nature throid) few weeks ago, not part of TRT but i know it will make a huge difference in how i look and feel.

[hammerheart]

I was thinking... how much time for a change in feeling down there? I mean, since going on HCG . Last time they felt good was back in March/April, during "washout" from nebid.

[kelkel]

another thing i forgot to mention is i was put on thyroid medication (nature throid) few weeks ago, not part of TRT but i know it will make a huge difference in how i look and feel.

Love to hear how you make out Bass!