Sooo, whats the point to HGH?

**chris2wire** · 06-22-2005, 02:20 AM

It seems to me like HGH isnt that great, yet people seem to go after it and spend so much money on it...

It seems like the gains arent huge and take a very long time to happen.... At the same time hgh seems more dangerous than anything else, including juice...

So why do people invest in hgh?

Just curious....

**Xe0n** · 06-22-2005, 02:56 AM

I believe the oldies get awesome results from HGH, and best of all, a higher quality of life... I think for us younger bodybuilders very high dosages of HGH and the use of slin/t3 are necessary to see good gains - which is quite often not worth the money IMO, unless you are rich or BB'ing is extremely important to you.

BTW, while I do agree HGH has some sides that are worse than juice, I'd consider lots of juice's sides to be much worse, especially androgen-heavy anabolics.

Just my 2c.

**Gear** · 06-22-2005, 04:45 AM

At the end of the day, all the drugs people use to enhance their performance/image aren't good. However, it doesn't happen over night, but it does happen and it does work if you do the right thing. Some drugs are worse than others in terms of side effects. Some people also respond better than others. You'll never know till you try.

-Gear

**Big M** · 06-22-2005, 06:58 AM

what!! thought that HGH was completly safe, exept for some roumers of cousing cancer I have´nt heard anything bad??

Its good, you just have to use it like 25 weeks, For 1000$´s of dollars

**Gear** · 06-22-2005, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by Big M

what!! thought that HGH was completly safe, exept for some roumers of cousing cancer I have´nt heard anything bad??

Its good, you just have to use it like 25 weeks, For 1000$´s of dollars

I don't believe GH can cause cancer, I believe it can accelerate it which speeds up the growth/spreading process of effected cells. HGH can have some nasty side effects if abused, don't worry about that my friend.

-Gear

***JohnnyB*** · 06-22-2005, 08:45 AM

It's not that great for younger people

JohnnyB

**spywizard** · 06-22-2005, 08:47 AM

ever have a muscle injury that wouldn't heal???

or

take like 2 years to heal???

GH will make that all happen alot quicker, as well as help alot with joints, and skin, and BF............

**Sta11ion** · 06-22-2005, 09:32 AM

For my self I will consider it but latter in my life around mid 40's. There are benefits at that age thats is as close as the fountain of youth we have during this time maybe in 20 years when I reach that age who knows what will be avaliable.

**dale** · 06-22-2005, 12:23 PM

if you're using GH to build muscle save your money and buy some AAS or LR3, if you are patient and have a clean diet and you want to lose some BF or want some anti-aging effects then spend your money on GH.

**chris2wire** · 06-22-2005, 03:44 PM

Ok I see, thanks guys.

So its a great thing for injuries or older people... Thats what I was wondering...

Because it seemed like so many people were spending so much $$$ on little results.

**AnatomicallyBlessed** · 06-22-2005, 04:35 PM

Don't forget hypertrophy. Roids only promote hypotrophy (enlargement of muscle cells). Hypertrophy is the production of new muscle cells. After using HGH there will be a greater potential for gaining size or breaking through a plateau.

**spywizard** · 06-22-2005, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by AnatomicallyBlessed

Don't forget hypertrophy. Roids only promote hypotrophy (enlargement of muscle cells). Hypertrophy is the production of new muscle cells. After using HGH there will be a greater potential for gaining size or breaking through a plateau.

that's because it makes more muscle cells.. thus the additional muscle.

**j martini** · 06-22-2005, 05:30 PM

What if a young guy was to run it at a higher dose 6-10 IU would they then see muscular gains considering that thaey had previous experience with AAS, IGF1 and Slin. Because most people on this board seem to only use 2-4IU.

supersteve · 06-22-2005, 07:12 PM

It's generally said that 4iu and above will promote good muscular gains, particularly when combined with AAS.

**itsjinx** · 06-22-2005, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by AnatomicallyBlessed

Don't forget hypertrophy. Roids only promote hypotrophy (enlargement of muscle cells). Hypertrophy is the production of new muscle cells. After using HGH there will be a greater potential for gaining size or breaking through a plateau.

correction: hypotrophy is not the "production of new muscle cells". that'd be hyperplasia

**Nicky B** · 06-23-2005, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by j martini

What if a young guy was to run it at a higher dose 6-10 IU would they then see muscular gains considering that thaey had previous experience with AAS, IGF1 and Slin. Because most people on this board seem to only use 2-4IU.

I'm 21 and I use 6iu's everytime I use gh and I find that it is worth the money spent. I just wish you could run igf-1 like you can gh.

**AnatomicallyBlessed** · 06-23-2005, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by itsjinx

correction: hypotrophy is not the "production of new muscle cells". that'd be hyperplasia

Oh sh1t, you're right, I knew it was hyper-something.

**j martini** · 06-24-2005, 05:49 AM

Originally Posted by Nicky B

I'm 21 and I use 6iu's everytime I use gh and I find that it is worth the money spent. I just wish you could run igf-1 like you can gh.

Thanks, its definitely something i will use in the future, just didnt want to splash the cash for an improved feeling of well being and some fat loss.

**Britguy** · 06-24-2005, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

It's not that great for younger people

JohnnyB

what age is considered younger - no flame, just curious?

im doing it at 3iu's 5/2 split, for 8 -9 months maybe longer IF results are good

**Britguy** · 06-24-2005, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by j martini

What if a young guy was to run it at a higher dose 6-10 IU would they then see muscular gains considering that thaey had previous experience with AAS, IGF1 and Slin. Because most people on this board seem to only use 2-4IU.

i think 6-10 is a very large dose unless you want a gh gut like Ronnie's most do 2-4 iu's b/c i think its a educated dosage, running it that high could fetch unwanted sides like extreme water retention and organ growth, not to mention a whole host of other nasties, like CTS and a very large fukin chin and forehead, run at 2-4 iu's most will experience little side effects if any at all

**Nicky B** · 06-24-2005, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by Britguy

i think 6-10 is a very large dose unless you want a gh gut like Ronnie's most do 2-4 iu's b/c i think its a educated dosage, running it that high could fetch unwanted sides like extreme water retention and organ growth, not to mention a whole host of other nasties, like CTS and a very large fukin chin and forehead, run at 2-4 iu's most will experience little side effects if any at all

I run 6iu's with little sides. Everyone thinks that if you take 12iu's or so you will get a gh gut. Athough that is true but you most likely not get a gh gut from 6months at that dose. You say Ronnie Colmen yes he has a big gut but that is from grams and grams of test 12iu's or more ed of gh for more then 5years and probably over 20iu's ed of slin being done.

**Britguy** · 06-24-2005, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by Nicky B

I run 6iu's with little sides. Everyone thinks that if you take 12iu's or so you will get a gh gut. Athough that is true but you most likely not get a gh gut from 6months at that dose. You say Ronnie Colmen yes he has a big gut but that is from grams and grams of test 12iu's or more ed of gh for more then 5years and probably over 20iu's ed of slin being done.

if you ask me, then Ronnies gut is mainly from gh abuse, its obvious he has enlarged internal organs because of the fact he still has ripped abs yet his belly protrudes like a pregnant mum, im aware that a gut can form from a lot of test but still you dont look ripped with that type of gut, also notice a difference from when he started to where he is now, isn't it also a coincidence that Gh use has become rampant amongst Pro's during this time, 6iu's may work well for you my friend but i don't think its something everyone else should follow, besides the fact that your only 21 i believe? maybe you shouldn't even be using it yet but thats for you to decide. I was merely highlighting the POSSIBLE effects that could happen and yeah everyone is different but stuff like acremology (shit spellin) isn't something i wann fuk around with

**dale** · 06-24-2005, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Britguy

if you ask me, then Ronnies gut is mainly from gh abuse, its obvious he has enlarged internal organs because of the fact he still has ripped abs yet his belly protrudes like a pregnant mum, im aware that a gut can form from a lot of test but still you dont look ripped with that type of gut, also notice a difference from when he started to where he is now, isn't it also a coincidence that Gh use has become rampant amongst Pro's during this time, 6iu's may work well for you my friend but i don't think its something everyone else should follow, besides the fact that your only 21 i believe? maybe you shouldn't even be using it yet but thats for you to decide. I was merely highlighting the POSSIBLE effects that could happen and yeah everyone is different but stuff like acremology (shit spellin) isn't something i wann fuk around with

hey britguy.....NICE avatar, almost two weeks into my cyp/deca cycle and that pic makes me want to rub one out!!!

**Nicky B** · 06-24-2005, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by Britguy

if you ask me, then Ronnies gut is mainly from gh abuse, its obvious he has enlarged internal organs because of the fact he still has ripped abs yet his belly protrudes like a pregnant mum, im aware that a gut can form from a lot of test but still you dont look ripped with that type of gut, also notice a difference from when he started to where he is now, isn't it also a coincidence that Gh use has become rampant amongst Pro's during this time, 6iu's may work well for you my friend but i don't think its something everyone else should follow, besides the fact that your only 21 i believe? maybe you shouldn't even be using it yet but thats for you to decide. I was merely highlighting the POSSIBLE effects that could happen and yeah everyone is different but stuff like acremology (shit spellin) isn't something i wann fuk around with

You kind of missed my point. What I was saying was a simple 6month cycle of gh at 6-8iu's will not give you a gh gut. Now ronnie's gut is from years and years of extreme gh doses.

**Britguy** · 06-25-2005, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by Nicky B

You kind of missed my point. What I was saying was a simple 6month cycle of gh at 6-8iu's will not give you a gh gut. Now ronnie's gut is from years and years of extreme gh doses.

point taken, no flame intended pal, see thats what GH is doin for me!!

**Two4the$$** · 07-06-2005, 04:19 AM

Yeah Britguy, post more pictures of your avatar!

I'm 31, and since I like 18 year old girls... I like looking as young as possible. Will I have any anti aging affects from the HGH? How long before an AAS cycle should I start the GH, as I know it takes a while to become effective...

**hell_boy** · 07-07-2005, 06:06 AM

1month before cycle should be fine.

**Nicky B** · 07-08-2005, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by TrumanHW

Yeah Britguy, post more pictures of your avatar!

I'm 31, and since I like 18 year old girls... I like looking as young as possible. Will I have any anti aging affects from the HGH? How long before an AAS cycle should I start the GH, as I know it takes a while to become effective...

3months is best and 2months should be minimum.