To clear 1 thing up about igf-1 LR3

**Nicky B** · 08-02-2005, 06:52 PM

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**Nicky B** · 08-03-2005, 05:34 PM

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**Nicky B** · 08-15-2005, 08:37 AM

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**Nicky B** · 08-16-2005, 10:08 AM

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**Keyser Sozey** · 08-16-2005, 03:24 PM

Nicky B, you think Coleman used the rIGF-1 to get his calves up?

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**BlInDsIdE** · 08-16-2005, 03:33 PM

good info

**Nicky B** · 08-17-2005, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Keyser Sozey

Nicky B, you think Coleman used the rIGF-1 to get his calves up?

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I'm he probably uses Igf-1 LR3 and its possible that coleman used rIgf-1 since it was around early then igf-1 LR3.

**Nicky B** · 08-22-2005, 11:13 AM

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**Big M** · 08-22-2005, 11:20 AM

If you are looking for site growth the only thing I can think of is rIgf-1

Does that work, have you/anyone else tried it?

**Nicky B** · 08-22-2005, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Big M

Does that work, have you/anyone else tried it?

The site growth it might give is not worth the price. IMO Cheapest I hae found it for was 600 for 1mg which you would go through pretty quick.

**Seattle Junk** · 08-22-2005, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by Nicky B

The site growth it might give is not worth the price. IMO Cheapest I hae found it for was 600 for 1mg which you would go through pretty quick.

I have small calves. I've tried everything but this is genetic. Would l3 help increase mass (not site injections of course) due to cell division with IGF-1? I hit my calves until I can't walk and they barely respond. It's discouraging but I understand I probably just don't have it there like a lot of people.

**Nicky B** · 08-22-2005, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by Seattle Junk

I have small calves. I've tried everything but this is genetic. Would l3 help increase mass (not site injections of course) due to cell division with IGF-1? I hit my calves until I can't walk and they barely respond. It's discouraging but I understand I probably just don't have it there like a lot of people.

Maybe but the mass I beleive would not be perminate.

**Seattle Junk** · 08-22-2005, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by Nicky B

Maybe but the mass I beleive would not be perminate.

Don't make me sad...there is no hope for the calve challenged people less plastic surgery? I feel like Drama on entarouge.....

**Nicky B** · 08-22-2005, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by Seattle Junk

Don't make me sad...there is no hope for the calve challenged people less plastic surgery? I feel like Drama on entarouge.....

Just keep hittin them hard.

**Nicky B** · 08-25-2005, 05:15 AM

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**Big M** · 08-25-2005, 08:18 AM

I have small calves. I've tried everything but this is genetic.

Arnold had that, He did 10sets of 10 reps with maximum load EOD, And as you know his calves got very good

**Nicky B** · 08-25-2005, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by Big M

Arnold had that, He did 10sets of 10 reps with maximum load EOD, And as you know his calves got very good

I read that he would use up to double his bodyweight in calf raises.

**Pinnacle** · 08-25-2005, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Nicky B

Igf-1 LR3 version does not produce any site growth. Its half-life is to long over 10hours I beleive the half-life is. If you are looking for site growth the only thing I can think of is rIgf-1 which may cause site growth because its half-life is around 30minutes. Which means most of the igf-1 will stay in the muscle you just injected it into. Case Closed

Could you be kind enough to post up a few links that can back up your claim?

**rodge** · 08-25-2005, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

Could you be kind enough to post up a few links that can back up your claim?

i can't back it up but if it did produce site growht i would have some gigantic biceps since thats the only place i shoot it.

-rodge

**Pinnacle** · 08-25-2005, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by rodge nl.

i can't back it up but if it did produce site growht i would have some gigantic biceps since thats the only place i shoot it.

-rodge

I understand what you're saying bro.But in order for this thread to be credible,some evidence has to be posted to support the claim made.
I can't think of anyone,including myself,that would even consider believing a word of what was said in the opening statements of this thread without support of some clinical studies.
Does anyone think a newbie is going to beleive that just because he says so?

~Pinnacle~

**oswaldosalcedo** · 08-25-2005, 02:46 PM

no mr olympia contender would have then puny calves (and there are several)

Neither PGE2 ! and ILK 15 is very expensive.

**Nicky B** · 08-25-2005, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

Could you be kind enough to post up a few links that can back up your claim?

Well I have not seen any studies of igf-1 that were done on humans. And I would have to say the same as rodge and I have done like 5,000mcg's of igf-1.

**Nicky B** · 08-26-2005, 03:15 PM

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**Seattle Junk** · 08-26-2005, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Big M

Arnold had that, He did 10sets of 10 reps with maximum load EOD, And as you know his calves got very good

I heard he got calve implants before he did the movie Twins with Devito.

**WannabePro** · 08-26-2005, 11:21 PM

does rIGF-1 produce more muscle than IGF-1 LR3?

**canecorso** · 08-26-2005, 11:36 PM

bump for you bro.

**WannabePro** · 08-26-2005, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by canecorso

bump for you bro.

excellent

**Nicky B** · 08-27-2005, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by WannabePro

does rIGF-1 produce more muscle than IGF-1 LR3?

Well this is hard to explain. rIgf-1 can produce muscle where you inject because it mostly stays in that muscle due to its very low half-life. While LR3 goes through the whole body having a half-life of over 10 hours I believe.

**Nicky B** · 09-05-2005, 02:21 PM

Haven't bumbed this in awhile.

**bigdogc** · 09-05-2005, 05:45 PM

you always hear guys that **** up while taking test or a similar compound. i have yet to hear any sort of horror story with igf. other than hypo and GH gut (which isnt a big problem if you dont megadosge), do you think there are any other side effects ie body not producing its own IGF, igf not working, speeding up of aging etc. so far from my readings, im convinced this is the best chemical for me!

**Nicky B** · 09-05-2005, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by bigdogc

you always hear guys that **** up while taking test or a similar compound. i have yet to hear any sort of horror story with igf. other than hypo and GH gut (which isnt a big problem if you dont megadosge), do you think there are any other side effects ie body not producing its own IGF, igf not working, speeding up of aging etc. so far from my readings, im convinced this is the best chemical for me!

Your only real threat is if you have cancer cells igf-1 can accelerate there growth. But I'm sure you need some serious doses for this to be a serious risk.

**Nicky B** · 09-06-2005, 12:13 PM

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**Nicky B** · 09-07-2005, 02:01 PM

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**Nicky B** · 09-08-2005, 11:16 AM

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**Pinnacle** · 09-08-2005, 11:34 AM

I'm sorry.But I have to ask why the need to keep bumping this thread up?There is NO substance to it whatsoever.90% of the posts are bumps or useless dribble.So again,I ask why?

~Pinnacle~

**Nicky B** · 09-08-2005, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

I'm sorry.But I have to ask why the need to keep bumping this thread up?There is NO substance to it whatsoever.90% of the posts are bumps or useless dribble.So again,I ask why?

~Pinnacle~

Less for you to type. Almost 3-4 times a week there are a couple threads asking if igf-1 LR3 can produce site growth. Its like a saying in the steroid forum over and over that dbol only cycles are worthless and pointless.

**Pinnacle** · 09-08-2005, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by Nicky B

Less for you to type. Almost 3-4 times a week there are a couple threads asking if igf-1 LR3 can produce site growth. Its like a saying in the steroid forum over and over that dbol only cycles are worthless and pointless.

I see your point Nicky.That's something that will never change.It's like the "can I drink winny?"posts.PPl will ask that question in the year 2510.This is basically a newbie board,because of how it's linked to sooo many other sites ect.That's sort of how it is, and will be.
I'll make a suggestion to you tho.Why not take your time and dig up a bunch of credible research and so on.Put it all together into one great thread and ask to have a sticky made out of it.This forum could actually use something like that.That will curb alot of the poor questions that are posed in this forum regarding IGF.
Anyway,I did find your thread on you sharing your experiences as a young guy with anabolics interesting.Good to see guys stand up and share thier experiences,good or bad.

~Pinnacle~

**Nicky B** · 09-08-2005, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

I see your point Nicky.That's something that will never change.It's like the "can I drink winny?"posts.PPl will ask that question in the year 2510.This is basically a newbie board,because of how it's linked to sooo many other sites ect.That's sort of how it is, and will be.
I'll make a suggestion to you tho.Why not take your time and dig up a bunch of credible research and so on.Put it all together into one great thread and ask to have a sticky made out of it.This forum could actually use something like that.That will curb alot of the poor questions that are posed in this forum regarding IGF.
Anyway,I did find your thread on you sharing your experiences as a young guy with anabolics interesting.Good to see guys stand up and share thier experiences,good or bad.

~Pinnacle~

I would do that but I have never seen any experiments or research that involves igf-1 and humans. But maybe soon I will find atleast one study. Thanks for your interest and seeing my point.

**WannabePro** · 09-08-2005, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by Nicky B

I would do that but I have never seen any experiments or research that involves igf-1 and humans. But maybe soon I will find atleast one study. Thanks for your interest and seeing my point.

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**oswaldosalcedo** · 09-08-2005, 09:03 PM

there are studies, nick.

annals of internal medicine.
Risks and Benefits of Insulin -like Growth Factor.
Saul Malozowski, MD, PhD and Bruce Stadel, MD, MPH

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NIH CONFERENCE
Clinical Uses of Insulin-like Growth Factor I
Carolyn A. Bondy; Louis E. Underwood; David R. Clemmons; Hans-Peter Guler; Mark A. Bach; and Monica Skarulis

and there are others studies.............and there are surprises too.................ever...
and there is knowledge,science and objectivity.

KEEP THE THREAD ALIVE !

pd:and hgh does not transform in igf, stimulates its synthesis only.