IGF and BW

**reveremuscle** · 08-22-2005, 09:14 PM

Is it really needed to add BW to the pin w/IGF? From what I've read Bw will contaminate the IGF vial.

**rodge** · 08-22-2005, 11:39 PM

draw the igf first,then BW.and let it mix with a tiny airbuble.

-rodge

**Seattle Junk** · 08-23-2005, 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by rodge nl.

draw the igf first,then BW.and let it mix with a tiny airbuble.

-rodge

I thought I read the IGF is the last one in, first one out? But then the needle with the BW on it would contanimate the IGF in the vial....I'm sure your right since I have no experience with IGF.

**rodge** · 08-23-2005, 12:43 AM

your right,last one in,first one out would be best to get all out but then you risk the chance of contaminating.by drawing the igf first you will avoid this.and the trick is to draw a tiny airbuble after the igf,then the BW and let the airbuble mix the two.this is a great idea upped by omega labs

-rodge

**juict** · 08-23-2005, 09:42 AM

good work rodge...i just did my fist shot yesterday. i drew up the IGF went to the gym and kept it refrigerated, when i got back drew up the BW into the syringe and injected immediately......and your done.....i cant wait for results

***JohnnyB*** · 08-23-2005, 10:44 AM

I draw BW first, but don't let them mix

JohnnyB

**kingof516** · 08-23-2005, 02:07 PM

the bw is not a necessity, but you get all of the igf out with it, or at least more, and it does help to take some of the bite out of the BA, (if that statement matters, but if there are first timers, it would be nice if they all knew about it)

**Captain Fantastic** · 08-23-2005, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by rodge nl.

your right,last one in,first one out would be best to get all out but then you risk the chance of contaminating.by drawing the igf first you will avoid this.and the trick is to draw a tiny airbuble after the igf,then the BW and let the airbuble mix the two.this is a great idea upped by omega labs

-rodge

The bubble doesnt work for me. I can't get the same explosion with it. Remember IGF sticking in the needle or close to it restricts the BW flow. I draw the amount of IGF 1st, if theres a droplet sticking out the pin I'll barely pull that in. Next I insert the pin in the room temperature BW. As soon as the needle hits the liquid on the other side of the vial cap or before I pull back on the plunger fast to 2 or so units to get a maximum dynamic suction going. The BW draws in faster, making it explodes more right at the IGF causing it to disperse as much as possible. I try to blast the BW in to explode and suspend the IGF in as many and as tiny particles as possible. This way I get best dilution. Best dilution, in theory means more of if will go in at the same time as the BW in lieu of sticking on the sides and whatever remains is maximum dillution, which means minimum wasted IGF.