Stop... I repeat... STOP using Humalin R!!!

***Mr. Sparkle*** · 09-11-2005, 11:02 PM

Blah I see too many people say something like.... just go to the pharm and get it, its good stuff.... blah blah..... NO ITS NOT

Stay away... if you cannot get humalog or novolog then stay away from insulin . PERIOD

And again DO NOT inject any other way besides intramuscular!.... subcutaneous or intravenously are a no no!

Both have their reasons as to why...

**Gear** · 09-11-2005, 11:37 PM

I prefer Humalog over R too, but apart from the fact that Humalin R is a little trickier to use, I can't think of another reason why Humalin R shouldn't be used. IM is better than Sub-Q because the absorbency level with IM is higher than Sub-Q, it doesn't mean Sub-Q is no good at all.

-Gear

***Mr. Sparkle*** · 09-11-2005, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by Gear

I prefer Humalog over R too, but apart from the fact that Humalin R is a little trickier to use, I can't think of another reason why Humalin R shouldn't be used. IM is better than Sub-Q because the absorbency level with IM is higher than Sub-Q, it doesn't mean Sub-Q is no good at all.

-Gear

IMO for what we use it for..... it should be IM log only.... nothing else... why chance it?

**Gear** · 09-11-2005, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle

IMO for what we use it for..... it should be IM log only.... nothing else... why chance it?

Very true, and a very good point. I thought you mean't that using insulin any other way but IM, and using any other type of insulins but Humalog was useless.

Good to see you back.

-Gear

**Gear** · 09-12-2005, 12:03 AM

Using insulin IM will increase the absorbency level which makes the effect stronger. IM also cuts the on-set time in about 1/2. If you're a beginner, perhaps it is wise to start of with Sub-Q as hypo won't be as bad and wont arrive as fast as it would when using insulin IM. Just a thought.

-Gear

***Mr. Sparkle*** · 09-12-2005, 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by Gear

Very true, and a very good point. I thought you mean't that using insulin any other way but IM, and using any other type of insulins but Humalog was useless.

Good to see you back.

-Gear

lol no Im not that ignorant, or arrogant to say that

This stuff is going towards my major.

Thanks bro!

Remember our bodybuilding use, is not at all or hardly talked about in the medical community. So for what we need, subc and IV are no good. Along with all of the fast acting or mixed insulins...

**IBdmfkr** · 09-12-2005, 09:44 AM

So you are stating that Humlin-R is absolutely no good? What if you workout early afternoon, and then have all day to get in your carbs? I have no had a problem with it up to 4-6 hrs after use. Good info.

**xmutation** · 09-12-2005, 10:09 AM

Stop... I repeat... STOP using Humalin R!!!

Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle

Blah I see too many people say something like.... just go to the pharm and get it, its good stuff.... blah blah..... NO ITS NOT

Stay away... if you cannot get humalog or novolog then stay away from insulin . PERIOD

And again DO NOT inject any other way besides intramuscular!.... subcutaneous or intravenously are a no no! :no: Both have their reasons as to why...

STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP NOW

yes my lord...........lol...........................

**xmutation** · 09-12-2005, 10:10 AM

YES MY LORD,.....YES MY LORD...................YES MY LORD!..... LOL..........

**stocky121** · 09-12-2005, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by xmutation

YES MY LORD,.....YES MY LORD...................YES MY LORD!..... LOL..........

2 post's and nothing constructive

**IBdmfkr** · 09-12-2005, 10:23 AM

Maybe he's just shy, and trying to fit in.. how cute.

BTW, if humalog is just a faster acting slin, why isn't it sold OTC?

**xmutation** · 09-12-2005, 11:35 AM

behind such totalitarist pretensions,what can i do........ lol...............

STOP EVERYBODY ! DO NOT! ............LOL........................

**neverfail** · 09-13-2005, 05:58 PM

I understand the concern for the safty of all people, but if you've done your homework and do things correctly humilin R is safe and effective. I personally have used on and off for around a year and haven't had any problems. I might add that I have had very good results. Just my 2cents. As stated many times this isn't an compound for the novice and can be very dangerous. Research first and Be Safe!...............nf

**IBdmfkr** · 09-13-2005, 06:17 PM

Mr. Sparkle, can you explain on why you made this post and why you say NEVER use humalin-R...

**dr_ma** · 09-13-2005, 08:01 PM

Never had a problem with Humulin-R and I am not even that exact about my carb intake. Everyone is different, just start slow and be careful at first.

**IBdmfkr** · 09-13-2005, 08:05 PM

That's what I thought, What was the point of this thread? It is misinforming, and has no evidence to back up the statements.

**Gear** · 09-13-2005, 08:06 PM

Like I said in one of my posts, Humalin R is still effective, it's just a little different in terms of how to use it.

-Gear

**IBdmfkr** · 09-13-2005, 08:08 PM

Good posts Gear, I was just curious why Mr. Sparkle started this thread and then left it out there without explaining his reasoning behind his statement. Thanks for the input.

**Gear** · 09-13-2005, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

That's what I thought, What was the point of this thread? It is misinforming, and has no evidence to back up the statements.

I think the point he is trying to get across is that insulin should be used IM only because IM has a higher absorbency rate when compared to Sub-Q, so for bodybuilding purposes, IM is more beneficial.

He also recomends Humalog over any other insulins (Humalin R) because Humalog is the easiest insulin to use. He isn't saying that Humalin R is totally useless.

Hope that cleared things up.

-Gear

**Gear** · 09-13-2005, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

Good posts Gear, I was just curious why Mr. Sparkle started this thread and then left it out there without explaining his reasoning behind his statement. Thanks for the input.

No worries bro.

-Gear

**jerseyboy** · 09-13-2005, 09:04 PM

BB's have been usin Humulin R for years. Humalog is just easier.

**abstrack** · 09-13-2005, 09:09 PM

So main lining slin is a big no no? damm there goes my next cycle.

***Mr. Sparkle*** · 09-13-2005, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

Maybe he's just shy, and trying to fit in.. how cute.

BTW, if humalog is just a faster acting slin, why isn't it sold OTC?

Too dangerous

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

That's what I thought, What was the point of this thread? It is misinforming, and has no evidence to back up the statements.

Youre kidding right?

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

Good posts Gear, I was just curious why Mr. Sparkle started this thread and then left it out there without explaining his reasoning behind his statement. Thanks for the input.

Chill bro

Everyone is all worried about getting resistant to insulin , going hypo blah blah. All VALID points. So why would you want to use an inferior type of insulin?
R peaks lower, and has a longer duration...
Longer duration means more of a chance your body do stop producing as much....
And because its active longer you have to keep your diet perfect for that duration.
But the BB community have used R so for years? True doesnt make it right....

**jerseyboy** · 09-14-2005, 07:44 AM

Way to elaborate Sparkle. Good job.

**IBdmfkr** · 09-14-2005, 08:05 AM

There was nothing to "chill" about. Your statements were just very uninformative in your first post. Thanks for clearing them up. You stated "if you cannot get humalog or novolog then stay away from insulin . PERIOD". I think that is a little overboard. But I see your points and your personal opinions about this subject. Thanks.