HOW long has IGF been used for sport and body-building

**goose** · 09-16-2005, 08:25 PM

When was this Anabolic first used by athletes? Body-builders? Did yates and Flex use this Anabolic ?

**Pinnacle** · 09-16-2005, 10:02 PM

I first heard of it coming on the scene in the mid 90's.Could have been around longer.i just never heard of it before that.

~Pinnacle~

**Seattle Junk** · 09-17-2005, 12:25 PM

IGF-1 (Insulin Like Growth Factor 1 a.k.a. somatomedin C) is not an anabolic , it's a polypeptide of 70 amino acids.

Yeah, I'm sure yates used a lot of rIGF-1 and lr3 during his heydays. But that is just part of of his regime. HIgh amounts of GH, slin, multiple AAS, etc. Of course with a excellent diet and training routine. None of these drugs matter if you don't eat and train right.

***JohnnyB*** · 09-17-2005, 05:33 PM

LR3 came out about 92, but it's been avalible to us here for about 2 years

JohnnyB

**goose** · 09-17-2005, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

LR3 came out about 92, but it's been avalible to us here for about 2 years

JohnnyB

It shows you the pro`s get new drugs way before us, Is there any new drugs that the pro`s use today which is not avalible to us?

**Seattle Junk** · 09-17-2005, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

LR3 came out about 92, but it's been avalible to us here for about 2 years

JohnnyB

Is there a direct link to rIGF-1 causing roid gut or is lr3 bundled in with r causing this ugly side? I was talking with one of my friends last night who won as a heavy at a major BB show (Emerald Cup) up in my area. He said lr3 is linked to roid gut but I tried to tell him that is rIGF-1. He's on GH year around.

**goose** · 09-17-2005, 06:22 PM

I believe our pal, Pinnacle uses GH all year round,and said high dosage of 10iu and over is a major cause of roid gut... I year the pro`s take around 20iu a day split over 4 shots!! I have a better gut than ronnie...

**Pinnacle** · 09-17-2005, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Seattle Junk

IGF-1 (Insulin Like Growth Factor 1 a.k.a. somatomedin C) is not an anabolic , it's a polypeptide of 70 amino acids.

It's not an anabolic steroid ,but it is an anabolic.Anabolic is an adjective for anabolism.a·nab·o·lism (ə-năb'ə-lĭz'əm)

n.
The phase of metabolism in which simple substances are synthesized into the complex materials of living tissue.

an'a·bol'ic (ăn'ə-bŏl'ĭk) adj.

~Pinnacle~

**Seattle Junk** · 09-17-2005, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

It's not an anabolic steroid ,but it is an anabolic.Anabolic is an adjective for anabolism.a·nab·o·lism (ə-năb'ə-lĭz'əm)

n.
The phase of metabolism in which simple substances are synthesized into the complex materials of living tissue.

an'a·bol'ic (ăn'ə-bŏl'ĭk) adj.

~Pinnacle~

Wouldn't IGF-1's anabolic effects be attributed to the increased endongenous testosterone as it acts as a precursor to the HPTA? I always believed IGF-1's main benefits are the anti catabolic and gycogen retention properties. Of course IGF-1 works in great synergy with test. But it can be used alone for anti catabolic reasons.

**goose** · 09-17-2005, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

It's not an anabolic steroid ,but it is an anabolic.Anabolic is an adjective for anabolism.a·nab·o·lism (ə-năb'ə-lĭz'əm)

n.
The phase of metabolism in which simple substances are synthesized into the complex materials of living tissue.

an'a·bol'ic (ăn'ə-bŏl'ĭk) adj.

~Pinnacle~

Did not intend to offend you, you gave me good advise in another thread on HGH dosage, and advised me on taking 4iu, I wanted to try more

**Pinnacle** · 09-17-2005, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by goose4

Did not intend to offend you, you gave me good advise in another thread on HGH dosage, and advised me on taking 4iu, I wanted to try more

LOL bro..I was sticking up for you in saying IGF IS an anabolic .

~Pinnacle~

**Seattle Junk** · 09-17-2005, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

LOL bro..I was sticking up for you in saying IGF IS an anabolic .

~Pinnacle~

I still partially argue the statement as IGF-1 being a anabolic. I'm thinking an anabolic agent as being something that directly causes the building of tissue, not a precursor to the bodies natty androgens. GH would fall in this same category. I swear I read this somehwhere too where they made it very clear that growth factors are not in the same class as anabolics. I may be wrong of course, that happens a lot.

**goose** · 09-17-2005, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

LOL bro..I was sticking up for you in saying IGF IS an anabolic .

~Pinnacle~

LOL,its 4am here, just eating lots of food,thinking I have to train my abdominal muscles 2moro,which will be fun.I guess the message is dont take extreme amounts of HGH and IGF,but we all want to look like the pro`s...

**Pinnacle** · 09-17-2005, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Seattle Junk

I still partially argue the statement as IGF-1 being a anabolic . I'm thinking an anabolic agent as being something that directly causes the building of tissue, not a precursor to the bodies natty androgens. GH would fall in this same category. I swear I read this somehwhere too where they made it very clear that a·nab·o·lism (ə-năb'ə-lĭz'əm)

n.
The phase of metabolism in which simple substances are synthesized into the complex materials of living tissue.

[ANA– + (META)BOLISM.]

an'a·bol'ic (ăn'ə-bŏl'ĭk) adj.

. I may be wrong of course, that happens a lot.

Anything that creates muscle mass is considered anabolic.Weight training is considered anabolic.Hence the name of this board..AnabolicReview.There are many forms of anabolism.You just have it in your mind that IGF isn't in the anabolic steroid class.You're right about that.But IGF is still anabolic.

~Pinnacle~

**goose** · 09-17-2005, 07:06 PM

Is this one of your Favourite anabolics?

**Pinnacle** · 09-17-2005, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by goose4

Is this one of your Favourite anabolics?

No,Test suspension is.

~Pinnacle~

**Mealticket** · 09-17-2005, 09:31 PM

the Games in Atlanta were nicked name the Groth Hormone Olympics by several of the participating athletes

**Seattle Junk** · 09-17-2005, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

Anything that creates muscle mass is considered anabolic .Weight training is considered anabolic.Hence the name of this board..AnabolicReview.There are many forms of anabolism.You just have it in your mind that IGF isn't in the anabolic steroid class.You're right about that.But IGF is still anabolic.

~Pinnacle~

Well, true. Protein is anabolic as well as good food in general. I guess I should understand gh and IGF not being in the same class as anabolic steroids . But anabolic, yeah.