Guys who run HGH for life-or long term

**goose** · 12-01-2005, 04:57 PM

I have recently decided I want to run HGH,for a very long time,a number of years as the results are Fantastic .I have found the perfect dose I like,and will stick with it.6iu split,use to run 4iu one shot.
I have been running this every day,my plan was to run this for a year,now my plans have changed,what should I do.I have read it`s not advisable to run HGH ED for very long time,could effect your natural HGH levels.My question is what scheme would be safe to run HGH at 6iu full time. 5-2 6-1??? Any ideas. Thanks guys,any help would be great.

Goose4.........

supersteve · 12-01-2005, 05:42 PM

I think Pinnacle runs it 6-1, and i'm pretty sure he said he's on it for life?
That's how they give it to deficient kinds who are on it for a few years as well. Obviously not as good as running it ED, but it's definitely smart given that we don't know exactly what suppression may occur from long term use.

**goose** · 12-01-2005, 06:53 PM

Great information,I will run it 5 to 2,will also be more Economical and always best to play safer.A couple of more things dude, when I run IGF should I cut back on the HGH to 3iu ED,while on IGF? With the current pro`s who we love,I wonder what their receptors are like,must be blown away.Thanks redbaron.

goose4.............

supersteve · 12-01-2005, 09:38 PM

RedBaron - when do you take your hgh shot while on lr3? morning or before bed?

**oswaldosalcedo** · 12-03-2005, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by goose4

I have recently decided I want to run HGH,for a very long time,a number of years as the results are Fantastic .I have found the perfect dose I like,and will stick with it.6iu split,use to run 4iu one shot.
I have been running this every day,my plan was to run this for a year,now my plans have changed,what should I do.I have read it`s not advisable to run HGH ED for very long time,could effect your natural HGH levels.My question is what scheme would be safe to run HGH at 6iu full time. 5-2 6-1??? Any ideas. Thanks guys,any help would be great.

Goose4.........

Whole body and regional soft tissue changes in growth hormone deficient adults after one year of growth hormone treatment: a double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled study.

Hansen TB, Vahl N, Jorgensen JO, Christiansen JS, Hagen C.

Department of Internal Medicine and Endocrinology, Odense University Hospital, Denmark.

OBJECTIVE: Adults with GH deficiency (GHD) exhibit changes in body composition. Studies of the effects of GH substitution on body composition have been short-term or not adequately controlled. The purpose of this study was to evaluate the long-term effects of GH on soft tissue using dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry (DEXA). This technique enables assessment of whole body as well as regional soft tissue composition. DESIGN: A double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled study in patients with acquired GHD. The therapeutic regime consisted of biosynthetic human GH ( 2.0 IU/m2 per day) or placebo, given as a daily subcutaneous injection at 2000 h for 12 months. PATIENTS: Twenty-nine patients with acquired GHD (GH < 10 micrograms/l (< 20 mU/l) following standard provocative tests) in whom additional hormone replacement was maintained. MEASUREMENTS: Soft tissue determinations by DEXA scan, height, weight, foot volume and finger circumference were recorded together with serum IGF-I at baseline and after 12 months. RESULTS: Twelve months of GH therapy induced a total fat mass (FM) reduction of (mean +/- SEM) 4.88 +/- 0.58 kg (P < 0.002) (n = 13) corresponding to 21.5% of the total FM. The reduction in fat was most marked in the trunk, i.e. 3.07 +/- 0.29 kg (P < 0.002) corresponding to 61% of the total FM reduction. Total lean soft tissue mass (LSTM) increased by 3.31 +/- 0.81 kg (P < 0.001). Regional changes for arm and leg in the GH group amounted to 0.32 +/- 0.08 kg (P < 0.002) and 0.71 +/- 0.14 kg (P < 0.002), respectively, without accompanying significant changes in truncal LSTM between the groups. The foot volume was increased by 55.8 +/- 15.7 ml (P < 0.007) and the finger circumference by 2.67 +/- 0.5 mm (P < 0.005) on active treatment with no significant changes in the placebo group. CONCLUSIONS: Twelve months of GH therapy induced marked changes in soft tissue; fat mass was reduced, particularly in the trunk (61% of total fat mass reduction) whereas lean soft tissue mass increased more in the extremities. The data imply that GH-induced changes in body composition are maintained with long-term therapy.

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5 kg a year for 4 ius daily.

supersteve · 12-03-2005, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by oswaldosalcedo

5 kg a year for 4 ius daily.

Did they do an weights or cardio though? We don't know.
Assuming they didnt, a 5kg loss of pure bodyfat isn't too bad at all.

**kaorialfred** · 12-03-2005, 05:09 PM

bump

**kaorialfred** · 12-03-2005, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by RedBaron

What I can tell you is that there are some of the anti-aging doctors that have ran tests on their patients (which were actually normal adults just trying to keep their hormone levels at 20-30 year old mark ... not kids or dwarfs or HIV patients) that are on long term HGH. The data that they published pretty much confirmed that their generally held idea of 5/2 was sufficient to protect the long term health of the pituitary and its triggers. For that reason, that is what I have been doing ... it may be safe to run 6/1, but until I have some hard data on long term effects, I am sticking with what I have some data on.

The other thing I can share is that I was on HGH pretty much perpetually for about 6 years. I came off of everything to participate in some research ... and as part of that I have been able to check my own levels (I have my bloodwork done every 4-6 weeks), and I can say that after being off for many months now, my levels have crept down and stablized at where they started out ... pretty much the upper end of age appropriate.

That is the reason for my general recommendation that if you are going to run long term (years instead of months) that you consider a 5/2. You can certainly get enough HGH in the course of a week on a 5/2 (for me usually two injections of 3 IU's each or one 3 IU injection and 80-100mcgs of LR3) to make good progress.

It may turn out that ED may not harm long term endogenous HGH production ... but until we get some solid data on normal adults, I will continue to run with I feel comfortable with.

RB is that researched published anywhere. I would like to get my Dr. to set me up with 3 ius

**omnipotent** · 12-07-2005, 10:43 PM

i dont use GH but i know people who do it and they run 5-2 and they have awsome results

**Big Bapper** · 12-08-2005, 07:26 AM

I will be on GH till I can not afford it anymore. Love the stuff...........been on a year now, with no plans of comeing off anytime soon. I go 5 days on 2 off.