Question about MGF?

[IBdmfkr]

This has already gone on before, this is like de ja vu.
Lost a lot of good bro's over that thread. Don't want to see it happen again.

[RUI-Products]

Guys I run 7 different companys. I have better things to do. Innovative is wrong. Phoenix didn't forget anything. Not only is mine bigger I can piss much farther. You just got it wrong .

I'm not going to help you figure it out so you can sell it.

You have admitted you sell a bad product. Cause ... Just ? Why is that..?

Your IGF_tropin was Fraud. The product is impossible.

Your attempt to bring up lies about BSA is proof you have no scientific back round. BSA is found in any product that is Lyophilized in very small amounts. The Glass is coated with Sterile milk powder to keep the peptide from bonding to the glass. But you knew it because you are smart like that. ? Right ? Bet your not mixing your research chems in a tub in your house ether...? right ..

Your in a big ocean think you better go back to the pet store tank you belong. Keep selling your toxic research chems and product that don't work.

[Standard01]

Yeah, thats what makes Innovative a good company, they admitted to selling a bad product. You are selling the same product for much more money and pawning it off as the 'true form'. "Toxic research chems"? Please elaborate.

[innovative research]

Bro why can't you show everyone your sequence instead of trying to put us down, I will contact phoenix tonight and prove they just did not put the NH2 but I can tell you most all peptides have an NH2 at the C-terminus. you are looking pretting bad bro and if this post gets deleted we all will know why. please let me prove you wrong. BTW what are you gonna say when your MGF don't work either and are charging to high of price ..

Guys I run 7 different companys. I have better things to do. Innovative is wrong. Phoenix didn't forget anything. Not only is mine bigger I can piss much farther. You just got it wrong .

I'm not going to help you figure it out so you can sell it.

You have admitted you sell a bad product. Cause ... Just ? Why is that..?

Your IGF_tropin was Fraud. The product is impossible.

Your attempt to bring up lies about BSA is proof you have no scientific back round. BSA is found in any product that is Lyophilized in very small amounts. The Glass is coated with Sterile milk powder to keep the peptide from bonding to the glass. But you knew it because you are smart like that. ? Right ? Bet your not mixing your research chems in a tub in your house ether...? right ..

Your in a big ocean think you better go back to the pet store tank you belong. Keep selling your toxic research chems and product that don't work.

[innovative research]

also bro what are you gonna say when we release the PEGylated-MGF. We have research backing why plain MGF will not work and has to be PEGylated or in a viral delivery system. and also bro our oratropin is in a viral delivery system. you started this bro not us

[scriptfactory]

I found this on the internet:

C-terminal amidation is a common post-translational modification of bioactive peptides. During biosynthesis C-terminal amides are formed from glycine extended precursors by the action of the enzyme peptidylglycine a-amidating monooxygenase (1) . In many cases the biological activity of a hormone depends on the presence of the amidated C-terminus; the corresponding peptide with a C-terminal free acid being inactive. It is therefore essential when determining the primary structure of a novel peptide to establish whether or not the C-terminus is amidated.

I also found this from a Canadian peptide company:

Do my peptides need N-terminal acetylation and C-terminal amidation?
These modifications may avoid unnatural charges at the peptide terminals and protect the peptides from degradation resulting from exopeptidases. We suggest having the C-terminal amidation, which make the peptide more closely mimic the charge state in the native protein.

[monstermasss]

i back inn****ive products 100% and have tried most of them the company is super strong and been around for a while, as for lions products can give an opinion havent tried them due to cost??

[pscarb]

Guys I run 7 different companys. I have better things to do. ********** is wrong. Phoenix didn't forget anything. Not only is mine bigger I can piss much farther. You just got it wrong .

I'm not going to help you figure it out so you can sell it.

You have admitted you sell a bad product. Cause ... Just ? Why is that..?

Your IGF_tropin was Fraud. The product is impossible.

Your attempt to bring up lies about BSA is proof you have no scientific back round. BSA is found in any product that is Lyophilized in very small amounts. The Glass is coated with Sterile milk powder to keep the peptide from bonding to the glass. But you knew it because you are smart like that. ? Right ? Bet your not mixing your research chems in a tub in your house ether...? right ..

Your in a big ocean think you better go back to the pet store tank you belong. Keep selling your toxic research chems and product that don't work.

Why are you being so aggressive Bro just makes you look unproffesional and childish....

[RUI-Products]

Why ? Because your being ripped off....Theft is a big deal. Selling a product that doesn't work " IS FRAUD" SCAMMING . They have addimitted they know the product that are selling dosen't work and they are still selling it. They have been changing the the name of the company to try to get away from the rep they have created a few times.

I'm not being Childish I'm protecting the community. I'm pointing out what is between the lines. THey are playing with peoples health to make a buck.

[IBdmfkr]

The U.S. government has been doing that for years. yet ppl don't stop buying prescription meds lol..
I wouldn't say all the chemicals you sell are exactly great for your health either Lion.. I wouldn't pull that card.

[RUI-Products]

Not one of our chems has a toxic additive. The compounds are exactly what is in the the script form. They can't say the same thing.

[Ufa]

********** Research is a fraud and should have his BS deleted. Can't believe
he had the freakin nerve to pitch his poision.

Good riddance MF.

[IBdmfkr]

[Triposinator]

They were killed ? LOL

This has already gone on before, this is like de ja vu.
Lost a lot of good bro's over that thread. Don't want to see it happen again.

[pscarb]

Why ? Because your being ripped off....Theft is a big deal. Selling a product that doesn't work " IS FRAUD" SCAMMING . They have addimitted they know the product that are selling dosen't work and they are still selling it. They have been changing the the name of the company to try to get away from the rep they have created a few times.

I'm not being Childish I'm protecting the community. I'm pointing out what is between the lines. THey are playing with peoples health to make a buck.

i can understand that but your original post was aggressive towards ordinary members i think the exact words where "do you know who i am" so again why so aggressive...

[IBdmfkr]

lol.. how would we know who you were Lion.. Why don't you come down to TX and hit a lift with me sometime and I'll show you who's the grandaddy. lmao

[drew24]

ibdmfkr its nice to hear from some one thats used lions crap ,he never backes up his shit ,i dont trust him

[scriptfactory]

Lion: You never posted your MGF sequence? Why does yours work and everyone else's not? Shouldn't everyone be privy to this information? And if not, why should anyone buy your stuff if you won't even tell them what's in it?!

[drew24]

lion wont respond and why because he sells crap.

[IBdmfkr]

I've used his Nolva in the past with good results actually, but his customer service, attitude and prices all suck. Therefore I'd not recommend him to anyone.
But his products are not fake/bad to my knowledge.

[drew24]

have you tested them isen in his clen and it was fake and i posted it up but someine took it down

[Standard01]

Lion: You never posted your MGF sequence? Why does yours work and everyone else's not? Shouldn't everyone be privy to this information? And if not, why should anyone buy your stuff if you won't even tell them what's in it?!

Perhaps you forgot, he is busy running 9 company's, he does not have time for this

[drew24]

bullshit

[carlo]

Guys I run 7 different companys. I have better things to do. ********** is wrong. Phoenix didn't forget anything. Not only is mine bigger I can piss much farther. You just got it wrong .

I'm not going to help you figure it out so you can sell it.

You have admitted you sell a bad product. Cause ... Just ? Why is that..?

Your IGF_tropin was Fraud. The product is impossible.

Your attempt to bring up lies about BSA is proof you have no scientific back round. BSA is found in any product that is Lyophilized in very small amounts. The Glass is coated with Sterile milk powder to keep the peptide from bonding to the glass. But you knew it because you are smart like that. ? Right ? Bet your not mixing your research chems in a tub in your house ether...? right ..

Your in a big ocean think you better go back to the pet store tank you belong. Keep selling your toxic research chems and product that don't work.

I agree,


Carlito

[carlo]

The NH2 at the end..uh..no biggie both forms end up the same way anyways. The D-Arg form which *** carries is the wrong peptide that is why he thinks is not worth it, lol and now wants to introduce a PEGylated MGF which I assure you it will cost you an arm and a leg when you can do the same with the regular ARg MGF form if used properly. Extending its life does not make the MGF peptide any better is how you use it , dosages and when.

Carlito

[drew24]

once again lion says nothing !

[RUI-Products]

Not only are they selling the wrong peptide but the scientist who is responsible for it's creation informed us that the pegulation prosess is not very suscessful and it is not needed.

[Tripdog]

i just ordered some of the ai mgf,are you telling me that its completely worthless.Thats weak,you need to stop selling something you know doesnt do sh*t

[RUI-Products]

NO BRO WE ARE SELLING THE RIGHT PEPTIDE ....Everything we sell is right.

[scriptfactory]

NO bRO wE ARE SELLING THE RIGHT. PEPTIDE ....

Which peptide are you selling?

[RUI-Products]

IGF-1 Ec MGF

[scriptfactory]

IGF-1 Ec MGF

I know that! I just wanted to know which sequence was correct? The water soluble one, right? Not the D-Arg?

[carlo]

Not only are they selling the wrong peptide but the scientist who is responsible for it's creation informed us that the pegulation prosess is not very suscessful and it is not needed.

Yes! finally someone besides me knows it too! ...my supplier says is possible to PEGylate the MGF but is not needed not to mention it will cost a lot more.
The so called plain MGF form can be used successfully if applied correctly, that being dosages and schedule. Injecting IM on muscles you will train the next day seems to work well. Same with injecting 30 minutes after exercising.

My point is that true PEGYlated MGF is not better neither it makes it more potent! I was told this by the people ( chemists ) that actually produce these type of peptides and have produced MGF before. I got the sequence too so I know what I am talking about.

Thanks,

Carlito

[carlo]

MGF (Human)
Tyr-Gln-Pro-Pro-Ser-Thr-Asn-Lys-Asn-Thr-Lys-Ser-Gln-Arg-Arg-Lys-Gly-Ser-Thr-Phe-Glu-Glu-Arg-Lys-NH2

This one is water soluble and I have used before, the other form I have not used so I would not know. I may order the other form and see how it goes.

Thanks,

carlito

[carlo]

Bro why can't you show everyone your sequence instead of trying to put us down, I will contact phoenix tonight and prove they just did not put the NH2 but I can tell you most all peptides have an NH2 at the C-terminus. you are looking pretting bad bro and if this post gets deleted we all will know why. please let me prove you wrong. BTW what are you gonna say when your MGF don't work either and are charging to high of price ..

Hey man, I see you are reacting the same way you reacted to me over the other board we both sponsor..why the hating man? If Lion is wrong or whatever then let him be and worry about your own business.

Lion,

This guy did the same to me at another board and expect more from him and his boys.

enough said!

C

[Property of Steroid.com]

I agree,


Carlito

So do I.

[elite2kr]

**** lion, the rep is a rude cocky asshole. There company sucks and they charge way more then any other research company. Just compare prices on lion and inovative research you will see what i mean.

[guest589745]

**** lion, the rep is a rude cocky asshole. There company sucks and they charge way more then any other research company. Just compare prices on lion and inovative research you will see what i mean.

I did and sorry to say, ********** is cheaper.


I use both companies

[comradebillyboy]

Ain't competition wonderful?

[100%NATURAL-theGH]

I think if you know a product is bad... you need to make that clear ESPECIALLY if you want to keep it on the market... as for Lion... he can charge what he wants... if it's a good product and he put the time into research then it may be worth it... I don't know... if he can afford to give us better prices he should... sounds like it would sway a lot of people... as far as both of these business owners go... I'm not impressed with the way you conduct yourself on an open board... you discredit yourself in my eyes despite the quality of your product whether it be good or bad... I think presenting factual information was necessary but having a pissing match, making childish comments, using obscene language, and elementary smiley gestures wasn't what I expected from you... Conduct yourself as an individual how you see fit... but from a customers perspective your conduct when representing your business should be professional, that is if that's how you really run your business I mean...