need some help on insulin here guys

**airbornefury** · 07-18-2006, 01:23 AM

alright lads, got some growth (norditropin) going to take 2 iu a day in the morning and build up slowly every week, is this advisible cause some on here say take in the morning and some say before training, when i get up to 4iu il do 2 in the morning and 2 before traing but whats best for now,

T3 Levothyroxine sodium, people are saying take 12.5mcg and some are saying 25mcg, what is 12.5 is that half a tablet as it doesnt say anything on it, also when should this be took in the morning to, or half in the morning and half before training the same as the growth,

Insulin , the insulin i got is novo mix 30 flash pen, is this the right type of insulin as i know its dangerous to be ****ing about with, also some are saying take some in the morning and some early afternoon, then some are saying inject it IM into the muscle that you have just trained post work out which sounds good, but should it be IM injections or do the same as you do with the growth Q, and how many clicks on the pen do i take per jab there going up from 4 on here to 12 if i do shoulders do i bang in 4 iu in each shoulder post work out or go for the morning and afternoon method, if so were is best to inject.

i have Dianabol , deca , and test to put size on currently on 100mil of test and 200 deca 1 day on 4 days off and 10 dianabol a day,

I would be very gratefull for any points raised on this as you can always learn, points good or bad, or ant other way to be taking I.E pyramid T3 or insulin,

For calculations if needed im 23, 5'8 and 13st 14%BF

cheers lads

**Maldorf** · 07-18-2006, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by airbornefury

alright lads, got some growth (norditropin) going to take 2 iu a day in the morning and build up slowly every week, is this advisible cause some on here say take in the morning and some say before training, when i get up to 4iu il do 2 in the morning and 2 before traing but whats best for now,

T3 Levothyroxine sodium, people are saying take 12.5mcg and some are saying 25mcg, what is 12.5 is that half a tablet as it doesnt say anything on it, also when should this be took in the morning to, or half in the morning and half before training the same as the growth,

Insulin , the insulin i got is novo mix 30 flash pen, is this the right type of insulin as i know its dangerous to be ****ing about with, also some are saying take some in the morning and some early afternoon, then some are saying inject it IM into the muscle that you have just trained post work out which sounds good, but should it be IM injections or do the same as you do with the growth Q, and how many clicks on the pen do i take per jab there going up from 4 on here to 12 if i do shoulders do i bang in 4 iu in each shoulder post work out or go for the morning and afternoon method, if so were is best to inject.

i have Dianabol , deca , and test to put size on currently on 100mil of test and 200 deca 1 day on 4 days off and 10 dianabol a day,

I would be very gratefull for any points raised on this as you can always learn, points good or bad, or ant other way to be taking I.E pyramid T3 or insulin,

For calculations if needed im 23, 5'8 and 13st 14%BF

cheers lads

I cant help much on how to use your pen, but I think when I see that you say mix that might mean that it has a mixture of fast and slow acting insulin which isnt good. Stick to humalin-R or Humalog. Best to inject it IM post workout so that it acts faster.

**Gear** · 07-18-2006, 09:35 AM

Take your insulin PWO only, don't worry about taking it at any other time of the day at this stage. Insulin is mostly beneficial PWO anyway. When you do take your dose, take it all at once in one spot. No need to go 4IU here and 4IU there. IM is your best bet in areas where there is thin skin and not much fat. This way you can make sure the needle is stuck in the muscle and not the fat or the skin.

As for your type of insulin, it should be fast acting. I don't know what kind of pen you have but my insulin pen has lines where each line equals to 1IU. Yours may be different.

I don't really understand your questions regarding AAS, but we do have a steroid questions forum so you may post all your AAS questions there.

-Gear

**airbornefury** · 07-19-2006, 01:08 AM

roger that,

on the insulin pens it goes up in clicks is each click one IU, and on the T3 is levothyroxine sodium a T3 or t4, and is each tablet 25mg, it has a blue foil on the back of the blister pack

**Gear** · 07-19-2006, 01:31 AM

If the pen is designed for insulin use then each click should equal to 1IU, but as I said, I don't know what pen you have so I'm not a 100% on that. The pen should have numbers on it, usually something like 10, 20, 30, 40. Have a look how many cliks there are between 10 and 20. If there are 9 clicks between 10 and 20, then each click is 1IU. If there are 4 clicks between 10 and 20 each click should be 2IU, but if it is a insulin pen, then each click should be 1IU. Check to be sure please.

T3 is cytomel , and T4 is levothyroxin.

-Gear

**airbornefury** · 07-19-2006, 11:58 PM

cheers once again big guy, can i take T4 with growth and insulin or isit better to take T3

**Gear** · 07-20-2006, 01:35 AM

I would use T3.

All the best.

-Gear

**airbornefury** · 07-20-2006, 04:01 AM

cheers will get some today, is it one tablet a day in the morning, and another one on the insulin when you site inject pwo can you do it in your chest, left side im worried about been close to the heart, cheers so far mate you've been a great help

**Gear** · 07-20-2006, 09:12 AM

If you are taking T3, take the whole dose at once. And as for insulin , take it PWO (whenever that may be) and inject in area that doesn't have much fat and very thin skin. This way you can be sure the needle is in the muscle and not the fat or the skin. I usually shoot insulin in my bicep. Insulin isn't used for site enhancing by the way, it is used to shuttle nutrients into cells faster than usual. Insulin also allows your body to absorb more nutrients than usual, so you can inject insulin anywhere you like, it won't make any difference as long as it's done propely.

All the best mate.

-Gear

**airbornefury** · 07-21-2006, 07:28 AM

made it a bit easier here, is the first picture 4iu's or the second.

Cant get T3, im in afghanisatn at the minute and the arab in the chemist just looked at me as if i pissed on his kids, got thyroxine 50mcg i know its T4 but how many of them do i take for it to convert to T3, there's also a picture of them, not sure if its suppose to say poison on the pack, theres 2 different kinds there's one at 50 mcg and the other 0.1mg is that stronger, cheers again will hopefully get to start soon.