Using T4 along with HGH as Anthony Roberts Suggests

**Maldorf** · 08-22-2006, 04:26 PM

I am now using T4 along with my HGH and am wondering how long you can safely run the T4. If I plan on running the HGH indefinitely, I surely could not do that with the T4 I would think. Ive seen dosing pyramids for using T3, something in the neighborhood of 60 days, but cant seem to find anything on T4. Looking for some help here.

**comradebillyboy** · 08-22-2006, 07:54 PM

I have been concerned about the same issue myself. Anthony Roberts article was very persuasive regarding T4 and HGH. I plan to do HGH long term, but I am not sure how or if the T4 ought to be cycled. Anthony's article was more focused on body building uses and not anti aging.

I'll be seeing my doctor in Oct for some cholesterol issues so I'll be getting another blood test. Ironic, my doctor touted the benefits of test to me, but said my levels were real good for a man my age so she wouldn't perscribe it. I decided to give the stuff a try anyway. In combo with hgh it makes me feel real good and has brightened my outlook. Needless to say, I won't be sharing that info with her.

**juicehoe** · 08-22-2006, 08:22 PM

i was wondering that same thing. I will try the t4 but wanted to know how long to say on the t4 if i plan on hgh for the next year

**Maldorf** · 08-22-2006, 10:21 PM

I asked Anthony in a PM and he simply said to do it as long as youre on HGH. The only thing is, I plan on staying on HGH for a year or more. I did read some articles online that claim that the shutting down of natural thyroid hormone by the use of T4 and even T3 is overrated. The articles claimed some have stayed on T3 for a year or more and their natural thyroid output was at normal levels a few weeks after getting off of it. The effects of T4 are even less pronounced, but it still makes me very nervous. This seems to be a gray area, we need more feedback.

**comradebillyboy** · 08-23-2006, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by Maldorf

I asked Anthony in a PM and he simply said to do it as long as youre on HGH. The only thing is, I plan on staying on HGH for a year or more. I did read some articles online that claim that the shutting down of natural thyroid hormone by the use of T4 and even T3 is overrated. The articles claimed some have stayed on T3 for a year or more and their natural thyroid output was at normal levels a few weeks after getting off of it. The effects of T4 are even less pronounced, but it still makes me very nervous. This seems to be a gray area, we need more feedback.

Thanks for getting with Anthony Roberts on this. I will be getting at least two blood tests in the next 9 months. if the results are good, I won't worry. Too bad the medical research folks haven't done a lot of clinical research relevant to the way the bros use these hormones. In essence we are experimenting on ourselves.

***perfectbeast2001*** · 08-23-2006, 09:18 AM

I am currently running T4 at 100mcg per day while on GH. I plan to run it throughout my GH usage. I don't believe that such a small dosage will cause any problems with the thyroid. Any problems I have heard about (and never seen evidence of) stem from huge doses of t3 that were stopped abruptly or started at huge dose without tapering up.

**Maldorf** · 08-23-2006, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001

I am currently running T4 at 100mcg per day while on GH. I plan to run it throughout my GH usage. I don't believe that such a small dosage will cause any problems with the thyroid. Any problems I have heard about (and never seen evidence of) stem from huge doses of t3 that were stopped abruptly or started at huge dose without tapering up.

That is the same as I have read. Im just wondering if its safe to be running this stuff for 12 months straight, as thats how long I plan on running HGH.

**comradebillyboy** · 08-23-2006, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Maldorf

That is the same as I have read. Im just wondering if its safe to be running this stuff for 12 months straight, as thats how long I plan on running HGH.

Right. I don't ever intend to get off HGH except for short breaks once in a while but I plan to use this as long as I can afford it.

**bringndaheat** · 08-23-2006, 08:40 PM

T-4 or Thyroid armour when put into my AAS and HGH made the biggest difference of all. But if you are trying to gain muscle you will find it very hard over 60mcgs a day. 60mcg's converts to 25mcg's of T-3 per the thyroid armour website. If you are trying to bulk I would not run over 30mcgs a day. But if you are going to cut then hey you be the judge. But the t-4 eats weight......fat....or that hard earned muscle. For me it really attacked the fat..... I could not be happier I would be a spokesman for there product

**comradebillyboy** · 08-23-2006, 10:06 PM

the first order of business for me is weight loss. I hope my weight training program minimizes the muscle loss. when i trim off some of the lard maybe I'll cut back to 50 mg/day t4 or less.