Did you see any WEIGHT/MASS gains from IGF-1 alone ?

**needbigguns** · 08-23-2006, 09:12 AM

**Phreak101** · 08-23-2006, 10:02 AM

I'm very curious about this as well. Or how about with MGF?

**needbigguns** · 08-23-2006, 04:04 PM

BUMP - need answers i plan on ordering it tommorrow (if i decide to) running it at 100mgs Mon-Friday (decent dosage) and having saturday and sunday off...im 23 by the way - Wanting to keep gians in PCT - but more than anything looking to put on around 3 lbs if possible...

**spywizard** · 08-23-2006, 04:05 PM

nope, but i ran only 40mcg per dose.. will up to 80mcg this next time.. note, i did do all the injections in the peak of my bi.. i liked that alot..

**DarKOmeN** · 08-23-2006, 04:07 PM

"sup small lad"

**Phreak101** · 08-23-2006, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by spywizard

nope, but i ran only 40mcg per dose.. will up to 80mcg this next time.. note, i did do all the injections in the peak of my bi.. i liked that alot..

Did you use it concurrently with AAS?

**spywizard** · 08-23-2006, 04:21 PM

500mg test cyp
500mg eq
40mg anavar
3iu gh 2 months before cycle and during, and after.. 6 months..

**spywizard** · 08-23-2006, 07:43 PM

500mg test cyp
500mg eq
40mg anavar
3iu gh 2 months before cycle and during, and after.. 6 months..

**Stumbo** · 08-23-2006, 07:51 PM

i only saw about a pound or two gained, but i run it during PCT or while on DNP , so i dont ever expect much. I always run atleats 100mcgs daily.

**C_Bino** · 08-23-2006, 09:15 PM

I will be running it at 100mcg per day starting in a week. This will be along with:
1400mg Test
1000mg EQ
700mg NPP
40mg Halo

I will let you know how it goes.

**WEBB** · 08-23-2006, 09:25 PM

Started this cycle 4 weeks ago and just going to be starting the GH part of it monday and the IGF in 5 weeks from then, bu ti will let you all know also...

1-23 Test Cyp 700mg/wk (800mg/wk on 16-23)
1-8 Deca at 500mg/wk (300mg/wk 9-20)
1-4, 24-27 Test Prop at 100mg/day
9-20 Tren Enanthate at 500mg/wk
4-20 EQ at 600mg/wk

HGH 9IU's/day 5 on/ 2off (3IU's 4am, 3IU's on waking, 3IU's early afternoon).
LR3 IGF-1 100mcg/day ED PWO on 5 weeks / off 5 weeks rotating throughout the cycle.
Humalog 10IU's workout days only PWO rotating 5 weeks on / 5 weeks off throughout (opposing weeks with LR3 IGF-1).

15-27 Proviron 100mg/day
23-26 HCG 500IU's every 4 days
27-31 Clomid 100mg/day
1-31 Arimidex .25mg/day
1-27 Nolvadex 10mg/day, 28-32 20mg/day
1-31 B6 200mg/day
1-31 B12 500mcg/day

**spicyer** · 08-23-2006, 10:05 PM

Currently running 100 mcg pwo in combination with 10 iu's hgh eod and a aas cycle which includes test e, eq and tren a. Great pump and veins popping out like crazy as fat % is approaching single digits.

**humungus88** · 08-23-2006, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by spicyer

Currently running 100 mcg pwo in combination with 10 iu's hgh eod and a aas cycle which includes test e, eq and tren a. Great pump and veins popping out like crazy as fat % is approaching single digits.

Are you injecting in the muscle that you workout? I'm wondering if this is imperative.

**needbigguns** · 08-24-2006, 12:37 AM

im in two minds what to do then now... should i do it or forget about it - dosage il be running is 100mcg 5 days on 2 off (weekend)

Would i be better then with MGF - does this work for everyone ? why do so mnany people use IGF then if hardley any one has success with it

**C_Bino** · 08-24-2006, 12:44 AM

I have never used IGF before. But Im willing to give it a try. Why are you doing a 5/2 split though. I would shoot it ed if I was you. Even GH I would do ed and never skip...i mean im no expert of course but it really makes no sense to me why you would just randomly skip 2 days. Not just talkin about you bro but in general I just dont understand the reasoning AT ALL.

**WEBB** · 08-24-2006, 07:01 AM

i thought the same thing Bino..but i was also told that if you plan on runnign GH for a long time you need to take a month off after like 6 months on, but if you run it 5/2 then you can run it for a year straight...also i agree 110% with the IGF, it should be ran ed, and not skipped...

**IBdmfkr** · 08-24-2006, 08:54 AM

Hell of a cycle Webb.. didn't you just recently come off a contest cycle? going back on for 6months? whoa.

U an animal.

Btw, IGF LR3 is good for one thing, fatloss and allows you to intake a few more carbs during the day and stay lean.. great on a lean bulk or contest prep.

Humungus.. no it isn't necessary.. I shoot bi's only IM.

**Triposinator** · 08-24-2006, 12:12 PM

I've only used during PCT once. I'd say gaining during PCT is unlikely.

If you're like me you'll try anythng just to hold gains - and IGF will not hurt that effort at all.

If you've just busted you ass dieting, sleeping and working out to maximize gains, its natural to try to get any edge possible during PCT. Go for it.

Originally Posted by needbigguns

BUMP - need answers i plan on ordering it tommorrow (if i decide to) running it at 100mgs Mon-Friday (decent dosage) and having saturday and sunday off...im 23 by the way - Wanting to keep gians in PCT - but more than anything looking to put on around 3 lbs if possible...

**spicyer** · 08-24-2006, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by humungus88

Are you injecting in the muscle that you workout? I'm wondering if this is imperative.

I don't know if it is imperative, but let me tell you it works. I do a lot of bi and tri shots, LOVE EM!

**Random** · 08-24-2006, 10:22 PM

but let me tell you it works. I do a lot of bi and tri shots, LOVE EM

Are you saying you got localized growth in your bis and tris from doing IGF injections there?

**humungus88** · 08-24-2006, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

Hell of a cycle Webb.. didn't you just recently come off a contest cycle? going back on for 6months? whoa.

U an animal.

Btw, IGF LR3 is good for one thing, fatloss and allows you to intake a few more carbs during the day and stay lean.. great on a lean bulk or contest prep.

Humungus.. no it isn't necessary.. I shoot bi's only IM.

Thanks guy's. I've been waiting for that answer. I've heard people say you must inject the muscle your training and others say it doesn't matter. I'm serious about running IGF during PCT, but am leery about shooting tri's and pecs. Would I be alright shooting just quads and glutes?

**Carlito B** · 08-25-2006, 05:15 AM

IGF-1 is not a mass gainer!
There is a difference among quality lean mass and brute mass accompanied with water and fat gain.
I am a bit surprised how some guys here do not know about IGF-1 yet, igf-1lr3 is old news ( 3 - 4 years ago )
I see guys starting logs and so on like if it was a new drug???

C

**Triposinator** · 08-28-2006, 07:36 PM

Bump -- results are interesting -- bring on more responses

**Triposinator** · 08-31-2006, 08:06 AM

Funny you say this, because you are one of the 2 people that said you gained 5 pounds plus.

The other was a 22 year old who just a while back was kicking around his first cycle of anything.

Originally Posted by Carlito B

IGF-1 is not a mass gainer!C

**Triposinator** · 09-05-2006, 10:14 AM

B-U-M-P

For more results

**ss01** · 09-05-2006, 10:29 AM

I gained about 5lbs of mass off IGF-1 alone. It is difficult to gauge because results take a while to show up, although SOME immediate results occur. And on top of that you will normally lose a few lbs of fat, which was also my case. Now if you are measuring ONLY the immediate results, 5lbs is a LOT of mass off IGF-1 in the ... what... 30, 40 days that a cycle lasts... But I did this at age 36, before my first AAS cycle, and was granted with accelerated growth for months after stopping the IGF-1. This was after maxing my natural potential. Obviously you will find few people who have done this same thing.

**Carlito B** · 09-07-2006, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by Triposinator

Funny you say this, because you are one of the 2 people that said you gained 5 pounds plus.

The other was a 22 year old who just a while back was kicking around his first cycle of anything.

What are you trying to imply? I have gained 5 pounds before but it all depends on your diet , protein intake-calorie intake plus exercise regimen. You could be shooting up 1 gram of test a week but if your diet and exercise are not in check you will not gain a pound..maybe a pound of fat weekly that is.

May I ask how old are you and what have you cycled so far?

Yeah 22 year old...I personally think a 22 year old has no business using either AAS or any other related drugs unless is an experience user/competitor.

I started juicing when I was 28 after I reach my full potential, I am 33 years old now and only use small amounts anyways. I have used IGF-1LR3 since 2004 and I never expected weight gains from it but quality lean mass plus fat burning effects and also improvement of tendons/joints.

IGF-1LR3 IS NOT NEW!

IS OLD NEWS AND THERE ARE MANYOF MANY BURIED LOGS ALL OVER THE BOARDS!

C

**Carlito B** · 09-07-2006, 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by humungus88

Thanks guy's. I've been waiting for that answer. I've heard people say you must inject the muscle your training and others say it doesn't matter. I'm serious about running IGF during PCT, but am leery about shooting tri's and pecs. Would I be alright shooting just quads and glutes?

Shooting in pecs is very easy, I just started shooting in forearms and rear delts earlier this year.

You can also inject the IGF-1lr3 sub-q ED for a more systemic effect.

C

**Triposinator** · 09-07-2006, 06:55 AM

Bud, I'm not implying anything, I'm pointing out that you contradicted yourself. It is really very clear.

However since you seem curious, to me this suggests that you have trouble expressing yourself clearly, or getting your facts straight. Again I'm only suggesting this since you asked.

IGF is old news, but most logs reflect IGF in conjunction with something else, or during PCT.

I'm 50 years old.

Originally Posted by Carlito B

What are you trying to imply?

May I ask how old are you and what have you cycled so far?

Yeah 22 year old...I personally think a 22 year old has no business using either AAS or any other related drugs unless is an experience user/competitor.

I started juicing when I was 28 after I reach my full potential, I am 33 years old now and only use small amounts anyways. I have used IGF-1LR3 since 2004 and I never expected weight gains from it but quality lean mass plus fat burning effects and also improvement of tendons/joints.

IGF-1LR3 IS NOT NEW!

IS OLD NEWS AND THERE ARE MANYOF MANY BURIED LOGS ALL OVER THE BOARDS!

C