GH injection ? hours prior to workout

**cyclist2173** · 09-04-2007, 09:51 AM

I know you are supposed to take it prior to workout and most users usually are taking it upon rising, but how long before a training event (nobody mentions the ACTUAL time of day they train). I train early in the morning (approx 7-8am) and primarily do endurance training (2+ hours), not weightlifting. Also, should I take a CHO supplement (i.e. Gatorade) given that GH increases Lipid metabolism while training and spares CHO? Thank you.

**Gear** · 09-04-2007, 10:54 AM

I would take it right before you go to gym. So have a dose while you're at home, then head of to gym.

Dextrose will replenish glycogen so an energy drink such as gatoroade is always a good idea weather GH is in the picture or not.

-Gear

**cyclist2173** · 09-04-2007, 03:41 PM

Thanks Gear. May I ask your reasoning? Some people have told me at least 3 hours prior to a training session, otherwise it might affect performance.

**Gear** · 09-05-2007, 10:18 AM

With HGH, when it comes to dosing times, there are many avenues you can take. However, all these avenues contain faults.

Some of these aveunes are:

Avenue #1: Dose PWO
Avenue #2: Dose 3hrs before training
Avenue #3, Dose prior training

Ave #1 - Dose PWO:
One main reason why I wouldn't take my GH PWO is because I like to have my carbs/protein immidietly post training, then eat dinner (which also consists of carbs/protein) about 25 - 30min later. Having said this, if you took HGH PWO and consumed carbohydrates soon after that (which is immidietly PWO and dinner 25 - 30min later) the HGH you took may interfere with your body's ability to uptake glucose. This is why carbohydrates around injection time is not a good idea.

Ave #2 - Dose 3hrs before training:
Having a dose of GH 3hrs before training is fine, but in my case it would be a bad idea as I would usually consume carbs around that time, so once again a dose of HGH around that time would be a bad idea for reasons stated in "Ave #1".

Ave #3 - Dose prior training
If you are consuming carbs soon after you train, then taking HGH before training may be ok. This way, you can be sure the HGH/carbs issue won't occur. But then again, when we have a high intesity workout our body releases HGH, and if that's the case then there is really no need to take HGH before training as you may interrupt your natural production produced while training. So, as you can see it's a catch 22.

Why do I suggest a dose before training? Because it guarantees me that I won't bump into the HGH/carbs issue, and sometimes your body won't release HGH when training and if that's the case then HGH prior workout would be the best option. I believe that's probably the safest option so far. Other options are more of a risk IMO.

I hope all that made sense.

-Gear

**cyclist2173** · 09-05-2007, 02:23 PM

Excellent. That helps a lot. Since my training and CHO eating time is different, I believe you have helped me to make a wise choice. I usually wake up and wait a few hours before going to train (usually endurance) and always do so on an empty stomach (other than coffee). However, while doing endurance training, I also consume a CHO/Electrolyte mixture. Maybe 4-5 hours after I initially fall asleep at night, wake up and inject, then sleep for another 3-4 before training in the morning. What do you think?

**Ironman5151** · 09-05-2007, 07:21 PM

Gear: Excellent post agian bro..

**Gear** · 09-06-2007, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by cyclist2173

Excellent. That helps a lot. Since my training and CHO eating time is different, I believe you have helped me to make a wise choice. I usually wake up and wait a few hours before going to train (usually endurance) and always do so on an empty stomach (other than coffee). However, while doing endurance training, I also consume a CHO/Electrolyte mixture. Maybe 4-5 hours after I initially fall asleep at night, wake up and inject, then sleep for another 3-4 before training in the morning. What do you think?

The CHO/Electrolyte contains BCAA, EAA and glucose right? I see where you are heading by taking this in the middle of the night, but if you want to avoid the HGH/carbs issue, then I suggest you stop taking CHO/Electrolyte. I am sure a dose of GH in the middle of the night when you wake up is more beneficial than a supplment? Then when you wake up in the morning for the one last time, take another dose of GH and train a few hrs later like you said.

That's what I would do.

-Gear

**combatstang** · 09-06-2007, 04:02 PM

but doesnt Gatorade, or powerade have alot of sugar and carbs?

**rabidsquirrel** · 09-06-2007, 04:27 PM

thats why its good pwo. anybody correct me if im wrong, but i believe the crabs help bring protein to the muscles. that is why some use inslin. if your like me and scared of inslin then the next best thing is dextose(spell).

**Gear** · 09-06-2007, 10:37 PM

After training your body falls into recovery mode. This is where you need to give your body fast acting fuel, so fast acting carbohydrates such as dextrose is a perfect idea in this case.

-Gear

**cyclist2173** · 09-06-2007, 11:30 PM

Gear,

The CHO/Electrolyte mixture I use is DURING hi-intensity endurance training (> 2 hours) and then CHO/PRO immediately after. I used to "bonk" or "hit the wall" during this type of training when consuming water only. I wonder if the GH would extend this by using more lipids during training? Come to think beta-oxidation of lipids requires many more steps to generate ATP.....GH may therefore limit my training intensity?