hardcore growth?

**Dieselpower** · 08-31-2008, 10:50 PM

any information would be great. About hardcore growth black boxes.

Thanks.
Dp

**Gear** · 09-01-2008, 12:27 AM

It has been mentioned here a few times but I don't know anyone who has used them. It's just another Chinese brand.

-Gear

PT · 09-01-2008, 04:18 AM

is it injectable? do uoi mix water and powder? i have never heard of it but it seems like another knock off

**Gear** · 09-01-2008, 06:52 AM

P it's Chinese HGH labeled hardcore growth, no different to blue/red/yellow etc tops.

-Gear

**Dieselpower** · 09-01-2008, 08:52 AM

I did a search of the item and I couldn't find any information about it.

**Gear** · 09-01-2008, 08:56 AM

That's because they don't exist. They're not an approved pharmaceutical company, it's a bunch of people who buy HGH in bulk and put their own labels on it.

-Gear

**Gear** · 09-01-2008, 08:57 AM

What pharmaceutical company would name their company such name LOL.

-Gear

**Dieselpower** · 09-01-2008, 09:07 AM

That's why I am scare to buy this item because my supplier has nothing else in stock after the summer games in china.

**Gear** · 09-01-2008, 09:09 AM

Well I guess it all comes down to how much you trust your source. I have heard of this lab many times so I would say it's more than likely legit, however I assure you it will be 192aa HGH which is good for some but not all.

Good luck.

-Gear

**Dieselpower** · 09-01-2008, 09:18 AM

It's a 191aa I believe.

**Gear** · 09-01-2008, 09:25 AM

You believe incorrect.

-Gear

**Polska** · 09-01-2008, 10:52 AM

I've used them. It's 191aa as far as I know, I had great results with them, better than my other generic blue tops. They're good and they're domestic but still too expensive for generics.

PT · 09-01-2008, 12:29 PM

oh i got you gear, thanks.

**Gear** · 09-02-2008, 02:55 AM

Originally Posted by Polska

I've used them. It's 191aa as far as I know, I had great results with them, better than my other generic blue tops. They're good and they're domestic but still too expensive for generics.

I doubt they are 191aa. You have no idea what procedures are invloved to produce HGH with a 191 amino acid sequence and not to mention the cost of it all (which is in the millions) + licenses and equipment required. If it works well then good on you, but it doesn't mean they are 191aa. Of course your supplier will say it's 191aa though, they all say that.

Procedures/costs/licenses/equipment required to produce 192aa HGH is totally different to the procedures/costs/licenses/equipment required to produce 191aa HGH, huge difference. I have actually explained all this before so I'll show you the thread if I can find it.

-Gear

PT · 09-02-2008, 03:23 AM

like gear said, every generic maker of hgh always says there product is 191aa but in reality the majority are 192aa. as long as your body does not produse intibodies then it dosnt matter which you shoot, you'll get the same results. i used kexing for a long time and they admit there product is 192aa and i had great results. i never had a problem and i loved the results.

**Brian** · 09-02-2008, 11:50 AM

hard core growth and the science of staying young are the same company if that helps any...I have heard the same though in regards to quality being poor.

**Gear** · 09-02-2008, 07:41 PM

Thanks Brian.

-Gear

**Dieselpower** · 09-02-2008, 10:34 PM

Thanks. Great advice.

**Rayna** · 09-03-2008, 06:59 PM

I have tried this product. After much searching for any info I could on it. I didn't find much, and I see that hasn't changed. I am a female, in good shape, and I was using 4IU's a day for 6 months. I didn't notice anything. I know I could have used a longer cycle but it was nothing like the results I felt off the Jintropin I used before and after awhile I felt I was wasting my money. That stuff isn't cheap $ but I feel it's a cheap product. I didn't notice any changes or feel any, the discs were always broken. One thread I had read said for HGH to be properly packaged it would be air tight in the vial. This would produce a vaccume effect when you put the syringe in to mix. That was never the case with this brand.

**Gear** · 09-03-2008, 11:42 PM

Rayna,

You didn't find much info on it because the company who sells this stuff isn't a registered company (as I said above). Try and google Saizen and you'll see how much info comes up. Why is that? Because they are a legit/approved company.

As for not getting any gains, well I am not surprised by that, afterall this stuff is Chinese aftermarket stuff, certainly nothing like pharmaceutical grade HGH. Jintropin on the other hand gave you some serious gains because it's 100% real deal manufactured by an approved/legit company.

It is cheap because it is $hit, a total waste of $$$ IMO, and for so long I have been saying that most aftermarket HGH brands are $hit too but people continue not to listen.

Thanks for your input Rayna, it's about time somebody posted what you did coz I'm certainly sick of doing it.

-Gear

**Dieselpower** · 09-04-2008, 04:16 AM

thanks for the great reply

**Rayna** · 09-08-2008, 08:24 AM

I agree Gear. I just learned the hard way! $$$$$$$$$$ haha

**raoulduke** · 03-10-2009, 05:24 PM

is the box all black?... sort of a flat or mat finish black with a red band across the corner... if so, it's pretty good.. nothing like jin but pretty good... i used 3 iu/day(not on weekends) for almost 4 months and had pretty good results.

**illwillogical** · 03-10-2009, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by Gear

Rayna,

You didn't find much info on it because the company who sells this stuff isn't a registered company (as I said above). Try and google Saizen and you'll see how much info comes up. Why is that? Because they are a legit/approved company.

As for not getting any gains, well I am not surprised by that, afterall this stuff is Chinese aftermarket stuff, certainly nothing like pharmaceutical grade HGH. Jintropin on the other hand gave you some serious gains because it's 100% real deal manufactured by an approved/legit company.

It is cheap because it is $hit, a total waste of $$$ IMO, and for so long I have been saying that most aftermarket HGH brands are $hit too but people continue not to listen.

Thanks for your input Rayna, it's about time somebody posted what you did coz I'm certainly sick of doing it.

-Gear

So you are saying the chinese brands are no good? What are the legit companies?

**sorel_C** · 03-20-2009, 05:02 PM

edited and warned. You have been here long enough to know the rules about posting sources(especially scammers) and websites. Please read the rules before posting again

thanx

**skeldno** · 03-20-2009, 05:21 PM

I have just got some for a mate of mine from my source and will let you know wot it is like.
Same as the link above

**Polska** · 03-20-2009, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by sorel_C

Just for the record they do have a website,.. just type in *********** . com, unless if this is another product from what everyone is talking about

Posting sources on the open forum is against the rules bro. I'd edit your post.

**Flex-Appeal** · 03-20-2009, 08:29 PM

I don't even know if that's a legit web site??

**DCannon** · 03-20-2009, 11:16 PM

I used 1 kit of Hardcore Growth at the beginning of my cycle(switched to blue top due source change). It felt legit to me. I got some decent fat loss in 4 weeks and started feeling sides at 4ius.

**Polska** · 03-21-2009, 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by DCannon

I used 1 kit of Hardcore Growth at the beginning of my cycle(switched to blue top due source change). It felt legit to me. I got some decent fat loss in 4 weeks and started feeling sides at 4ius.

How did the HCG yellow tops compare to the blue tops?

**DCannon** · 03-21-2009, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by Polska

How did the HCG yellow tops compare to the blue tops?

I only used the one kit(100 ius) but Like I said I got decent results from it but I'm definatly getting better results from the blue tops. I think because I only used one kit of the hcg I didn't notice any negative effects.

**KRISS** · 06-20-2009, 08:10 AM

I have try for the first time yesterday, good pump, little hypoglicemia, but for me the problem is This would produce a vaccume effect when you put the syringe in to mix. That was not the case with my first time?
But for me it is real gh relabeled
thanks
kriss

**KRISS** · 06-20-2009, 08:12 AM

I forget to said I am in cutting cycle and take only 3,3 ui just before my training.
kriss

**yesimussing** · 06-22-2009, 09:26 AM

Kriss u want that vaccum effect when u first mix it in. All it means is thAt is vaccum sealed. Just aim the needle towards the wall of the vial so not to hit the powder straight up.

**KRISS** · 06-24-2009, 08:58 AM

Picture of hardcore growth

**KRISS** · 06-24-2009, 08:59 AM

The box

**johnnydaq** · 10-21-2011, 11:36 AM

I've used and am actively using. I like the product and it's been pretty reliable. 4-6 IU's a day for me all the time with very little time off for best results.

ANy question let me know.

**Someguy123** · 03-11-2012, 12:24 PM

I know this thread is old, but why is everyone trashing this product?? If you haven't used it I can't see how you can say it's junk. I used this stuff for 6 months and had great results from it. I could never go above 4iu/day or the sides were unbearable, my shoulders were completely immobile due to tendonitis at 5iu/day. I was just googling the Hardcore line since I need to order some more, that's how I came across this thread, but they are sold out on the website. Guess I'll have to pay the extra 50$/kit from my source.

**gixxerboy1** · 03-11-2012, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by Someguy123

I know this thread is old, but why is everyone trashing this product?? If you haven't used it I can't see how you can say it's junk. I used this stuff for 6 months and had great results from it. I could never go above 4iu/day or the sides were unbearable, my shoulders were completely immobile due to tendonitis at 5iu/day. I was just googling the Hardcore line since I need to order some more, that's how I came across this thread, but they are sold out on the website. Guess I'll have to pay the extra 50$/kit from my source.

because if you know anything about gh and the chinese ugl scene you know its not real gh, i use real pharm grade gh at a higher dose then you, your shoulder should never become immobile from gh. you are injecting unkown chemicals doing harm to yourself

**markdbg** · 03-13-2012, 12:45 AM

hardcore growth is crap i know its a canadian product so i know ur from canada or else you probably never have heard of it, its not very well known as no one buys it cause everyone knows its fake. if ur gonna go for cheap relabed chinese, primatropin or norvotrop is your best bet in canada. i wouldnt even pin it if it was free.