injecting hgh IV to save money

[alwayson]

as you may know, if you inject hgh IV you only need a quarter of the dose. Thus only 1/4 the money....

does anybody roll like this?

[Silver-Bolt]

Where does that info come from?

[alwayson]

one of numerous AAS boards. I thought this was somewhat common knowledge anyway.

People do not do it, because they don't want to have track marks

[Indymuscleguy]

I have never heard of that. Is this true? Do you 'feel' anything from it? I know when I have injected gear into my dog, he gets a funny tase in his mouth if I accidently hit a vein.

Hmmm

[***xxx***]

biggest bull crap ever. not true and also an totally dumbass idea, because hgh injected IV clears your system even faster, than IM or SQ injected hgh. you ll really get the best for your money

[alwayson]

definitely NOT bullcrap

I have read hgh inserts that said you can inject IV.


and people do inject hgh IV on many other boards

[PT]

1iu is 1iu no matter were you inject. i think you would have to be a moron to main line hgh. if you cant afford it then dont do it

[alwayson]

why would you be a moron to mainline hgh?

you have not supported that statement sir.

[alwayson]

I have heard to use only american/western hgh when doing this

i went to med school for a couple of years, and i can tell you, there you should be no problem. hgh is protein in water. it is really meant to inject IV. subQ is a compromise for convenience

a lot of hgh studies are IV

[T-MOS]

I have heard to use only american/western hgh when doing this

i went to med school for a couple of years, and i can tell you, there you should be no problem. hgh is protein in water. it is really meant to inject IV. subQ is a compromise for convenience

a lot of hgh studies are IV

please post some of these studies or link us to them, i would be VERY interested in reading them

have you asked this question on the MANY aas boards that condone IV injecting of HGH??? Why ask here if you already have your answers on other boards??

[alwayson]

thats true...I already have my answers

I only check out this board every couple of years. Peace. See you guys in a couple of years.

[Deep_Fried]

I have heard to use only american/western hgh when doing this

i went to med school for a couple of years, and i can tell you, there you should be no problem. hgh is protein in water. it is really meant to inject IV. subQ is a compromise for convenience

a lot of hgh studies are IV

Guaranteed Sterile FDA approved Pharmaceutical grade could be used IV and has been used this way in numerous studies. As far as your dosage claims and reasoning for IV is flawed, and I do not have the time or strength to get into this in detail since I want to go into the differences between pharma and generic HGH.

Generic HGH (AKA "color" tops) with a sub standard purity, a high % of improperly folded and bonded HGH peptide chains, contaminated with god knows what because it is not manufactured according to sterile human USP grade conditions?
That is possibly as sterile as the junk the drugy shoots in the alley...

Keep in mind, with generics that may be less than sterile. Your sub q inject gets the benefit of added filtration and immune response before going systemic. Risk IV with that and you may get a nasty systemic bacterial infection. Many have come close to death from such infections that even intense Antibiotic treatments cannot control ideally.

Food for though.

[Slide]

^^ scary...

[T-MOS]

thats true...I already have my answers

I only check out this board every couple of years. Peace. See you guys in a couple of years.

so, you come here, present a topic , then instead of provided your studies, and being open to debate, you run away and hide for a few more years....hmmm

Yeaaaa that makes me want to consider your theories.......NOT !!!

[warchild]

idiot

[PT]

of course you can mainline hgh without a problem but my question is why? why would you want track marks and the extra risk of infection, collapsed veins and everything else that comes with daily IV injections

[Flex-Appeal]

FIRST!---everything alwayson just said needs to be put in the hall of shame!
SECOND!---i really would like to know what board is offering this advice out to people who know no better. I'd like to go in there and flame everyone splurging this BS advice and then hopefully get banned

[jimmyinkedup]

Medical Department M (Diabetes & Endocrinology), Aarhus University Hospital, Kommunehospitalet, Aarhus University, Denmark.


The current mode of growth hormone (GH) replacement therapy is daily subcutaneous (s.c.) injections given in the evening. This schedule is unable to mimic the endogenous pulsatile pattern of GH secretion, which might be of importance for the induction of growth and other GH actions. The present study was conducted in order to study the pharmacokinetics of different doses of GH following intranasal (i.n.) administration and the biological activity of GH after i.n. administration as compared with sc and intravenous (i.v.) delivery. Sixteen GH-deficient patients were studied on five different occasions. On three occasions GH was administered intranasally in doses of 0.05, 0.10 and 0.20 IU/kg, using didecanoyl-L-alpha-phosphatidylcholine as an enhancer. On the other two occasions the patients received an sc injection (0.10 IU/kg) and an i.v. injection (0.015 IU/kg) of GH, respectively. The nasal doses and the sc injection were given in random order in a crossover design. In a double-blinded manner the subjects received the three nasal doses as one puff in each nostril. The patients received no GH treatment between the five studies or during the last week before the start of each study. Intravenous administration produced a short-lived serum GH peak value of 128.12 +/- 6.71 micrograms/l. Peak levels were 13.98 +/- 1.63 micrograms/l after s.c. injection and 3.26 +/- 0.38, 7.07 +/- 0.80 and 8.37 +/- 1.31 micrograms/l, respectively, after the three nasal doses. The peak values of the 0.05 and the 0.20 IU/kg nasal doses were significantly different (p = 0.007). The mean levels obtained by the low nasal dose were significantly lower than those obtained with the medium (p < 0.001) and the high dose (p < 0.001), while there was no significant difference between the medium and the high doses. The absolute bioavailability of GH following s.c. relative to i.v. administration was 49.5%. The bioavailabilities of the nasal doses were: 7.8% (0.05 IU). 8.9% (0.10 IU) and 3.8% (0.20 IU). Serum insulin -like growth factor I (IGF-I) levels increased significantly after s.c. administration only. Mean levels were significantly higher after s.c. administration as compared with the i.v. and all three nasal does (p < 0.001). Serum IGF binding protein 3 (IGFBP-3) levels remained unchanged on all five occasions. Mean serum IGFBP-I levels were significantly lower after s.c. GH injection than after administration of the i.v. (p < 0.001) and the three nasal doses (p < 0.005). Subcutaneous GH administration resulted in significantly higher levels of serum insulin and blood glucose (p < 0.001). In conclusion, the bioavailability of nasal GH was low (3.8-8.9%). An i.v. bolus injection of, on average, 1 IU of GH induced no metabolic response. Only s.c. GH administration induced increased levels of IGF-I, insulin and glucose. These data reveal that a closer imitation of the physiological GH pulses than achieved by s.c. GH administration is of limited importance for the induction of a metabolic response to GH.



silly idea....

[alwayson]

if they use 1/10 the dose during IV

of course they will get no results

[T-MOS]

if they use 1/10 the dose during IV

of course they will get no results

damnnnn has it been two years already???...welcome back !!

[alwayson]

complete BS of a study

[j4ever41]

damnnnn has it been two years already???...welcome back !!

haha,

even if it were 2-3 times more effective i would not do it.

[Flex-Appeal]

^ditto. AlwaysOn must of went back to b b . c o m lol

[FranKieC]

This thread is great. I really want to see more studies

[luxifer93]

complete BS of a study

So why don't you present some evidence to support what you're saying?

[ni4ni]

i can say w/ 100% certainty that I have never seen hgh for iv use-never. this is not to say someone won't be or is currently injecting

[jimmyinkedup]

complete BS of a study

bs??? where is any study supporting your theories? Even though dosage of iv administration was lower - peak levels were actually HIGHER ...yet still Sub Q was the only method that positively effected igf , glucose and insulin . IV - showed ZERO metabolic response regarding the above.

[thunderin]

biggest bull crap ever. not true and also an totally dumbass idea, because hgh injected IV clears your system even faster, than IM or SQ injected hgh. you ll really get the best for your money

XXX is absolutely correct. It definitely takes longer for GH to clear your system if it is taken subq. That is the exact reason diabetics don't iv inject insulin . It is also the reason bodybuilders inject isulin im so it will dissipate quickly.

[JimInAK]

I have issues with the high cost of medicine in general in the United States and the high cost of HGH. That's why I buy mine in China. I always closely inspect my product and get a blood test to verify that it's real, although a couple of 5 iu shots will tell me with relative certainty because I know how it affects my body.

I would NEVER inject HGH into a vein.

[Garbanzo Dude]

I would like to see a real person (study) thats done GH IV.....to me that just sounds dumb!

[Schmidty]

wait wait wait does this mean i cant drink winny