how important is taking t3 when taking hgh?

[GORILA-UNIT]

i've done gh in the past and never bother with t3 or t4 as i was told they could have severe side effects on ur thyroid functions. I was talkting to a friend yesterday and he said t3 is good to do and stay away from t4. Can some of the veterans with experience shed some light on this matter it would be greately apprieated. thank u

[G-Force]

my understanding of it is that T4 (NOT T3) is needed while on hgh

this is because when T4 is converted to T3 in the body a chemical is released
i forget the name of this chemical
but it is this chemical that works in synergy with the hgh not the T4 itself
taking T3 means there is no conversion in the body and therefore the desired chemical isnt released and there is no synergisitic effect

also contraory to popular believe T4 does not permantly damage your thyroid
it will suppress it yes but only for the period that you are taking it

the thyroid actually recovers remarkabley quickly
much quicker than suppressed testosterone levels infact

[alextg]

What happens if you take T3 and not T4 ... at a dosage like 25mcg ED? Will there be any problem of putting your thyroid into danger ? Will it help your body at all , eg lose fat quicker ? Considering your on an hgh pattern 4iu 5on2off ...

[GORILA-UNIT]

guys help me out here need info pls

[Flex-Appeal]

i take about 20 mcg of t3 ed...NOT t4

[DCannon]

There was a post a while ago about how taking t4 with hgh doubles the effectiveness of the hgh.

I found it...

Thyroid Hormone + Growth Hormone with James Daemon, Ph.D.

[DCannon]

I've always taken 100mcgs of t4 with my gh.

[GORILA-UNIT]

There was a post a while ago about how taking t4 with hgh doubles the effectiveness of the hgh.

I found it...

Thyroid Hormone + Growth Hormone with James Daemon, Ph.D.

very infomative post bro thank u, just wondering if there has been any new studies or methods in the last little while. If anyone has good solid info pls post

[G-Force]

What happens if you take T3 and not T4 ... at a dosage like 25mcg ED? Will there be any problem of putting your thyroid into danger ? Will it help your body at all , eg lose fat quicker ? Considering your on an hgh pattern 4iu 5on2off ...

t3 wil be fine for fat loss
but you wont be getting the synergistic effects with the hgh

therefore t4 is the much better option

thyroid recovers quick regardless of which one u use anyway

i got mine tested when on 150mcg t4 for 9 months and my thryroid was suppressed (obviously)
then i came off and got it tested 6 weeks later and it was in the normal range again

[alextg]

thanks for the info again G-Force ... I'll add some T3 as im cutting atm and we'll see how it will go

[bjpennnn]

There was a post a while ago about how taking t4 with hgh doubles the effectiveness of the hgh.

I found it...

Thyroid Hormone + Growth Hormone with James Daemon, Ph.D.

damn dude nice find. I learned a lot. I am going to get on the t4 asap. I am just concered about muslce loss, should i change my diet whehn i start the t4 you think? I am very happy with my strength rite now and dont want to lose muscle but would love to loose a few more lbs of fat.

[alextg]

whats the best time of day to get the T3 ? is it of any importance ? I take my hgh morning about an hour after bfast ...

[GORILA-UNIT]

yea how and when and wat dosage should b taken on t4 and wat test do u ask for the test ur thyroid functions after comming off

[G-Force]

i run 150 - 200mcg T4 nearly all year round (9 - 10 months of the year)

u only experience muscle loss on higher doses of T4
and my doses are NOT high

as for the test - i just told the doctor i was using steroids and hormones etc and asked to get my blood test results showing thyroid, cholesterol, liver, kidneys etc

depends on where u are in the world and on your doctor as to whether they agree to do the test or not though
ive had some refuse, so i just went to a different doc

[bjpennnn]

i run 150 - 200mcg T4 nearly all year round (9 - 10 months of the year)

u only experience muscle loss on higher doses of T4
and my doses are NOT high

as for the test - i just told the doctor i was using steroids and hormones etc and asked to get my blood test results showing thyroid, cholesterol, liver, kidneys etc

depends on where u are in the world and on your doctor as to whether they agree to do the test or not though
ive had some refuse, so i just went to a different doc

Have you ran t4 and hgh alone without test? I want to do that but I am afraid of muscle loss.

[Flex-Appeal]

T3 is catabolic at any dose.
Some say if enough AAS are present then it's counteracts the catabolism, is this the way it really works? I'm uncertain

[bjpennnn]

so save money and dont run t4 just buy more hgh? and some clen ?

[alextg]

Well , i started takin 25mcg T3 while im on 4iu 5on2off of hgh.At the same time im on test prop 100mg ED and tren a 75mg ED ... no symptoms of catabolism ... anyway , time will tell ...i still have a long way ...

[Legolas]

what if u take T3 and T4 while on hgh ??? is it dangerous or not ?

[j4ever41]

i would think that a low dose t3 ( 12-25mcg ) would not be catabolic even without aas

[j4ever41]

so save money and dont run t4 just buy more hgh? and some clen?

the money you would save from not buying t4 is not going to get you very much gh

[j4ever41]

what if u take T3 and T4 while on hgh ??? is it dangerous or not ?

plenty of people take a combo with no problems

[bjpennnn]

i would think that a low dose t3 ( 12-25mcg ) would not be catabolic even without aas

can any other vets agreee with this?

[j4ever41]

can any other vets agreee with this?

i would like to hear more opinions as well,there are folks on here with much more gh/t4/t3 exp than myself.

[Flex-Appeal]

i would think that a low dose t3 ( 12-25mcg ) would not be catabolic even without aas

T3 is catabolic. Your dose does not matter. Catabolism just increases as the dose goes up.

[Flex-Appeal]

I'm on my phone but I will post a legit recent study within 24hrs

[Charger527]

Not meaning to highjack, but im about to start hgh and want the best out of it, now i have found some t4 but it is IV is that right????

[GORILA-UNIT]

bump

[DCannon]

Not meaning to highjack, but im about to start hgh and want the best out of it, now i have found some t4 but it is IV is that right????

The T4 I have is in little pressed pills. Not sure about IV.

[Charger527]

yeah i miss read the info, its available in pill form, or powder form for IV