Does Insulin Burn Fat?

**juicepig** · 04-03-2009, 04:29 PM

When Insulin is mixed with steroids is it a rapid fat loss agent?

**powerlifter18** · 04-03-2009, 04:33 PM

word of advise dont **** with insilun

**juicepig** · 04-03-2009, 04:35 PM

thanks... but that wasent my question!

**juicepig** · 04-03-2009, 04:56 PM

Bump

**jimmyinkedup** · 04-03-2009, 05:03 PM

insulin can be used in many ways. Using it to promote fat loss can be risky. In order to do that you need to cut it close with carbs as possible - risking low blood sugar - shock , etc. Some use it to induce ketosis after refeed day but overall i would def not catgorize insulin as a fatloss aid.....as far as my knowledge it is a storage hormomne in a sense - so NO i wouldnt use it for fat loss.

**jamyjamjr** · 04-03-2009, 05:06 PM

insulin abuse leads to diabetes... stay the fcuk away from it...

if your having issues with fat loss, post up your diet.. i betcha we can fix it there

**Ashop** · 04-03-2009, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by juicepig

When Insulin is mixed with steroids is it a rapid fat loss agent?

It definitely wouldnt be the 1st thing used for fat loss. Ive never seen this but I have the exact opposite,,,FAT GAIN.

**romo6** · 04-03-2009, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by ****

It definitely wouldnt be the 1st thing used for fat loss. Ive never seen this but I have the exact opposite,,,FAT GAIN.

Exactly,if your not careful,you can gain fat.

**Narkissos** · 04-03-2009, 08:12 PM

How many threads are you planning on starting with the same question?

Insulin for fat loss???

**Narkissos** · 04-03-2009, 08:14 PM

I use slin for cutting... but it is not something I'd suggest to someone who clearly has no experience with, or knowledge of the compound.

It isn't a game.

There're much easier and straightforward ways to shred fat than to mess with slin.

GH-fragments, thyroid hormones, ECA/ECY etc.

Loads of shit I'd suggest instead.

-CNS

**lovinyomotha12** · 04-03-2009, 08:17 PM

Yeah bro insulin isnt a ****in joke bro, my cousin has diabetes from abusing it. From what i have heard, insulin promotes fat gain?

And if your looking to lose fat, then eat clean. But if your gonna be impatient, Clen is a fat burner and so is Tren Ace.

But if you are a inexperienced user of AAS i suggest not doing any of them ESPECIALLY SLIN.

**Ronnie Rowland** · 04-03-2009, 08:34 PM

Insulin is a storage hormone (both fats and amino acids). Unless you have a gifted metabolism you will store more fat than amino acids! Take a look at diabetics who use insulin and take note how many of them gain fat when they start using slin. I would strongly advise against it unless you are an ecto or ecto/meso and are competing for a large sum of cash.

**lovinyomotha12** · 04-03-2009, 09:00 PM

^^ the truth.

**hellapimpin** · 04-03-2009, 09:09 PM

Slin skurres me

**Someguy123** · 04-04-2009, 10:25 AM

the thing ive found about insulin . is it depends on your body type. if youre naturally husky, it will make you fatter. if youre naturally lean, it just builds sick amount of muscle.

the reason i assume for that. is insulins basic function, is just a glucose delivery device. the more insulin you take, the more glucose your body will use. so your body will just do what it always would with all that extra glucose. some people have a tendency to burn off extra calories, whereas some people store them.

**lovinyomotha12** · 04-04-2009, 10:37 AM

Never took the time to research insulin i was just always told not to phuck around with it, especially with what happened to my cousin. Never understood why or how it builds muscle.

**Someguy123** · 04-04-2009, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by lovinyomotha12

Never took the time to research insulin i was just always told not to phuck around with it, especially with what happened to my cousin. Never understood why or how it builds muscle.

it increases protein synthesis by like a million times. it basically makes your body able to make use of a lot more calories. you certainly dont have much problem eating 5000cals on slin.

the only thing that leads to dependency, is abuse. with moderate use, you can see incredible gains. other than that, the only thing that makes it dangerous, is if you dont eat after taking it. which would just be stupid.

but i certainly wouldnt reccomend it to anyone, unless they were a competitive BB. it takes a lot of dedication to diet.

**Phate** · 04-04-2009, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by Someguy123

it increases protein synthesis by like a million times. study please
it basically makes your body able to make use of a lot more calories. you certainly dont have much problem eating 5000cals on slin. again, can i see another study on the appetite enhancing effects of insulin?

the only thing that leads to dependency, is abuse. with moderate use, you can see incredible gains. other than that, the only thing that makes it dangerous, is if you dont eat after taking it. which would just be stupid.
or a thousand other variables in the body that could cause a bad reaction
but i certainly wouldnt reccomend it to anyone, unless they were a competitive BB. it takes a lot of dedication to diet.

well i agree with the last statement at least

**Someguy123** · 04-05-2009, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by Phate

well i agree with the last statement at least

what is it you require studies for?? just google, or wiki insulin . everything i stated is basic biology. as well as personal experience.

insulin is something that your body already makes. it is the chemical that allows your body to use glucose for energy. so by taking more, it increases that glucose uptake. this is why you have to eat when you take it. because if you dont, you will run out of blood glucose, and go low blood sugar. when your body uses up all the energy from the food you have eaten, it is a natural rythym, for you to feel hunger again. its a basic human function, to prevent yourself from starving to death, if you forget to eat. so it makes perfect sense, that after taking insulin, and depleting your blood sugar stores, your body will feel hungry.

the first time i used insulin. i put on 14 pounds, in 14 days. even after having a big meal with my insulin. within 2 hours, i would be starving. like i said, 5000cals was not a chore, to put into me, in one day.

not sure if you graduated highschool or not. but if you need a study on this stuff. you should try picking up a grade 9 science text book, to learn a few things about how the human body functions.

**Phate** · 04-05-2009, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by Someguy123

what is it you require studies for?? just google, or wiki insulin . everything i stated is basic biology. as well as personal experience.

insulin is something that your body already makes. it is the chemical that allows your body to use glucose for energy. so by taking more, it increases that glucose uptake. this is why you have to eat when you take it. because if you dont, you will run out of blood glucose, and go low blood sugar. when your body uses up all the energy from the food you have eaten, it is a natural rythym, for you to feel hunger again. its a basic human function, to prevent yourself from starving to death, if you forget to eat. so it makes perfect sense, that after taking insulin, and depleting your blood sugar stores, your body will feel hungry.

the first time i used insulin. i put on 14 pounds, in 14 days. even after having a big meal with my insulin. within 2 hours, i would be starving. like i said, 5000cals was not a chore, to put into me, in one day.

not sure if you graduated highschool or not. but if you need a study on this stuff. you should try picking up a grade 9 science text book, to learn a few things about how the human body functions.

i'm simply asking you to back up what you said with studies, don't get an attitude about it bro

i wan to see a study that saids insulin "increases protein synthesis by like a million times", i know it increases protein synthesis because it's the most anabolic hormone known to man, but i want to know where you get that number?

and i wanted a study that describes the mechanisms and processes by which insulin stimulates hunger, that's all, so chill

**Someguy123** · 04-05-2009, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Phate

i'm simply asking you to back up what you said with studies, don't get an attitude about it bro

i wan to see a study that saids insulin "increases protein synthesis by like a million times", i know it increases protein synthesis because it's the most anabolic hormone known to man, but i want to know where you get that number?

and i wanted a study that describes the mechanisms and processes by which insulin stimulates hunger, that's all, so chill

no disrespect man. but if you start with attitude, youll get it right back. thats how it works with me. your reply came off, like you figure i dont know what im talking about. when everything i said is pretty common knowledge.

obviously, a "million" is an exageration. anyone with some common sense wouldve figured that out. which is the attitude i was talking about. i really dont know the exact number. i just know that slin increases protein synthesis by quite a bit.

no i do not have a study on it. but it is also a bit of common sense, that a huge increase, in the amount of calories your body can use. will lead to an increase in hunger. which i already explained.

anyway, no hard feelings. im not much of an E-thug. im not bored enough to look up studies. but since i have personal experience with this subject. i felt it could be helpful to someone, if i shared my findings.

**Probably** · 04-05-2009, 01:39 PM

i thought if u didnt eat after u inject insulin u will feel sleepy, then u may actually sleep and go in coma then die , not feel hungry .. i need to read more

**jimmyinkedup** · 04-05-2009, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by Someguy123

no disrespect man. but if you start with attitude, youll get it right back. thats how it works with me. your reply came off, like you figure i dont know what im talking about. when everything i said is pretty common knowledge.

obviously, a "million" is an exageration. anyone with some common sense wouldve figured that out. which is the attitude i was talking about. i really dont know the exact number. i just know that slin increases protein synthesis by quite a bit.

no i do not have a study on it. but it is also a bit of common sense, that a huge increase, in the amount of calories your body can use. will lead to an increase in hunger. which i already explained.

anyway, no hard feelings. im not much of an E-thug. im not bored enough to look up studies. but since i have personal experience with this subject. i felt it could be helpful to someone, if i shared my findings.

no offense bro but insulin actually dampens hunger. I can say this from experience and also show you the mechanism.: http://www.medbio.info/Horn/Time%205...Nov06%20v2.htm

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Insulin dampens appetite by inhibiting NPY/AgRP-secreting neurons and by activating POMC-releasing neurons. Insulin appears to have both short-term and long-term actions and is essential in regulation of body weight. Resistance to insulin is very often associated with obesity and the loss of insulin's regulation of metabolism as seen in diabetes type 2.

Also think about it - it makes sense - partial reason for insulin resistant people to have increased propensity for obesity as they pointed out

This is why its is so important to force yourself to eat appropriate carbs - dont count on body to signal hunger and need when using exogenous insulin.

Seamus

**Someguy123** · 04-05-2009, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by Probably

i thought if u didnt eat after u inject insulin u will feel sleepy, then u may actually sleep and go in coma then die , not feel hungry .. i need to read more

not eating after your insulin . will cause your body to use up all your glucose. which means you have no more energy left to function. at first you start to get cold sweats really bad. then you start to feel light headed and almost dizzy. and basically your body will start shutting down systems one by one, starting from least important. until youre whole body is just shut down.

high blood sugar will also put you in a coma.

**Someguy123** · 04-05-2009, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup

no offense bro but insulin actually dampens hunger. I can say this from experience and also show you the mechanism.: http://www.medbio.info/Horn/Time%205...Nov06%20v2.htm

Seamus

no offence taken. you are entitled to your own opinion. all i can say is that everyone reacts different, to different things. as i said, i was just giving my own perspective from the half dozen times, ive used insulin on cycle. but my hunger symptoms, are shared by many. all the insulin dependant people i know, that use Humalog. say that they are starving within an hour of taking their slin.

my only thought, is that maybe you used humulin?? one of the longer acting insulins. and somehow that could make a difference.

some diabetics will get fat, and some will get really skinny. but in any sense, its not quite the same, to compare a BB with a perfectly normal functioning pancreas. to a diabetic. they use insulin to balance their system. whereas a BB would be upsetting the balance that already exists.

**Phate** · 04-05-2009, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Someguy123

not eating after your insulin. will cause your body to use up all your glucose. which means you have no more energy left to function. at first you start to get cold sweats really bad. then you start to feel light headed and almost dizzy. and basically your body will start shutting down systems one by one, starting from least important. until youre whole body is just shut down.

use up isn't really correct here, it will cause your body to diffuse glycogen from the blood in to muscle, adipose and other tissues, but the glycogen isn't used up, it's just moved

high blood sugar will also put you in a coma.

that is true, but it's more likely that hypoglycemia(low blood sugar) would cause a coma in someone that used exogenous insulin

diabetics can experience a coma from hyperglycemia when coupled with diabetic ketoacidosis, exhaustion and dehydration

**jimmyinkedup** · 04-05-2009, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by Someguy123

no offence taken. you are entitled to your own opinion. all i can say is that everyone reacts different, to different things. as i said, i was just giving my own perspective from the half dozen times, ive used insulin on cycle. but my hunger symptoms, are shared by many. all the insulin dependant people i know, that use Humalog. say that they are starving within an hour of taking their slin.

my only thought, is that maybe you used humulin?? one of the longer acting insulins. and somehow that could make a difference.

some diabetics will get fat, and some will get really skinny. but in any sense, its not quite the same, to compare a BB with a perfectly normal functioning pancreas. to a diabetic. they use insulin to balance their system. whereas a BB would be upsetting the balance that already exists.

again - no offense intended - but thats exactly what you did above to support your opinion. At any rate as you said all respond differently .... Im sure we both agree - hungry or not proper carb intake is essential.....