Considering HGH and need advice

[Jeeper56]

Hey guys,

So here's my story, without getting too personal. I am in the military and currently awaiting medical retirement. I was injured while on my last deployment a few years back. After surgeries and thousands of blood tests trying to diagnose what was going on with me they came to some conclusions. Other than my injuries, that are doing fairly well, they found a type of severe hypothyroidism, PTSD, and also diagnosed me with chronic pain and fatigue syndrome (often misnomered as Fibromyalgia). Bottom line; I FEEL LIKE CRAP 24 hours/day, 7 days/week. I've gained a substantial amount of weight, have low sex drive, irritability, of course pain and fatigue and don't have much interest in things anymore. I used to be in superb shape, workout hard almost everyday and was overall a very active person. Since my injuries and have not been the same.

So, anyway, my point is that I am at the point that I am looking for ways to beat these conditions. They are ruining my life. And I think my first step is to try to get my body back into better condition. Lose some weight, strengthen my core and reduce some stress on my body. I have read a lot about HGH and I have seen that a lot of people see results not only in physical condition but also in over all health. Thing is, I want to do it as safely yet also as inexpensively as possible. (I know those usually don't go hand in hand) I have done enough research to know how to mix and administer the HGH and that I'll be better off by doing 4-6 IU daily. As far as cycling times, I have not found anything more common than another, so I am open to suggestions for ON/OFF cycle periods. Now, I am not on here trying to get guys to tell me where to get the best stuff for my buck (though information is welcome after my vetting period, lol). What I really want to know is how effective and safe are the black market sources, so I can decide to start looking or not? Any other advice pertaining to things that may help me would be great as well. Thanks guys!

JEEP

[Hondarocks]

Read this post, we are in the same boat.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...H#.TthqMGO9BqQ
GH has changed my life.

[H2Okid]

well, first things first brosephina jolie!
compare your body to an automobile engine. what your putting into it for fuel, is what your going to get out of it in terms of performance. start first with your diet. eating good green alkalizing foods rich in vitamins, minerals, and nutrients is going to change the way you feel, and give you much more energy. concentrate on the basics to get going. your body is made primarily of water and oxygen, so what do you think would be a good idea to put back into it????? yup, u got it, water(ionized), and oxygen(cardio MANG). yup that means get out of the pity pool, fill the garbage can up with whats in your fridge, and head to the market and get a new set-up in that PBR and elbow macaroni housing cooler! as your ramming air into your body via your cardio routine, your body is going to feel much, much better, as your giving it exactly what it needs, OXYGEN. and yup your right again private pyle, the more oxygen(cardio) you give it, the better it feels, which means better performance!

get that in check and the mental part will shortly follow, as we think how we feel, and we feel how we think.... if your haviing motivational problems, get some workout music downloaded. i dont know who can put in a good session without some music to pull us through. eye of the tiger, metallica, 3 six mafia, gay clay from american idol, whatever it takes to get you motivated. get past that 2-3 week mark, and you will be in routine again.

then you may be ready for supplements. i dont know that id reccommend aas for you ptsd guys, ya might freak out with that runnin through your veins. better stick to some hgh. dont get anything other than pharma grade, or your playing roulette with your wallet and body!

low sex drive= internet porn!

dont concentrate on what some dr told you is wrong with you(what do you call someone who got a D- on there med exam?, a Dr. sad but true). concentrate on the solution and not the problem, and your anxiety and depression will subside.

also, sucker punch some big dude in a bar and tell everyone you knocked him out in a straight up fist fight. that should also help the central ego, and give you some motivation to get in shape , cuz once this dude wakes up, you know hes gonna whip your ass.

WATER, OXYGEN, LEAFY GREEN VEGETABLE, PORN, AND SUCKERPUNCHING!

good luck, ill send ya a bill private pile.

[Times Roman]

Welcome to the board mate!
My situation is slightly different. I'm older, have worked out on and off most of my life. Was in great shape, very strong about 10 years ago. Due to career change, and the time/energy investment in this change, things got off track. began gaining weight, drinking, libido plummeted, and my knees/back were killing me. It got to the point that I just wanted to give up. Life was a bitch!
Finally, I got pissed at myself. Again, my situation is different. But i lost the weight, started cardio and weight training. this was about three years ago. made all the difference in the world. But for the first month, trying to build momentum, get motivated, stay motivated was very tough.
With everyone, there gets to be a tipping point, where they are tired of the status quo, tired of the pain, and just tired. It sounds like you are there, you are at your tipping point. I'd suggest, in addition to the path you seem to be going down, I'd suggest that you begin by simply going through the motions. try starting a healthy eating plan. try doing a little walking, and some light exercise. doesn't really have to be much. just make it a goal to simply go through the motions. once you are comfortable simply goiong through the motions, see if you can step it up just a little. Part of your problem is that it sounds like you have some real issues, so it will be difficult getting your mind into the game. But as we all know, half the battle is won inside your head. If you can just get your mind back in the game.
I know this all sounds like BS. But for me, getting my head right was the toughest part. Forcing myself to start walking, forcing myself to pick up the weights and move em a few times.
Good luck!
---Roman

[Jeeper56]

H2OKid,
You can call me Gunny Pile, I'm not longer a piss ant, hah. Anyway, I completely understand your logic in almost everything you addressed in your post. But, unfortunately, sometimes common logic is trumped by abnormalities within nature. I have a very solid background in nutrition and have a degree in Exercise and Sports Science. Though there have been times since my injuries that I have resorted to the wrong diet, it hasn't been nearly enough to cause the weight gain and physical degradation that my body has gone through in only 2 1/2 years. Please let me assure you that I am not posting this as a way to whine or swim in my "pity pool", lol. I am simply at a point both physically and mentally where I see no light, no typical answers. Therefore, in the last few months with the desire to save my marriage as a motivator, I have began looking into ever outside the box alternative to help me. HGH is only one of the things that I am seriously considering trying. I've also entered a realm of hippy-ism and started trying alternative treatments.

So, as far as the science goes behind my "conditions," it's definitely a complicated and little understood area. The only thing I can equate the pain and fatigue to that others may understand, is a bad flu... all day, everyday. And the hypothyroidism overlaps and also causes a major slowing of my bodies metabolic functions. Not, to mention that my insides are all in different places and I have a few nice new, alloy support structures inside me. Oh well, it is what it is, so rather than focus on what's wrong I want to focus on ways to help life be closer to normal, using all means necessary.

As far as the psychological stuff goes, you're pretty close to correct. Except my issues aren't motivation they are actual mostly functionality. Even when I change how I think I feel, I still feel how I felt... if that makes sense. It took a long time for me to accept that this was anything more than me turning into a weak minded ***** because the things that I have experienced at war. But, recently I came to terms with the fact that this is more than my mind effin' with me. So I am regrouping, resupplying and shooting to kill, just like I have dealt with all other enemies that were able to infiltrate my defenses. (sorry for the military metaphor)

Thanks for you insight though. Again I welcome all advice and criticism. I know that proper interpretation can often be lost in translation, when online.

[37lift]

stop crying. just do it. hgh+hcg you feel better. get a doctor to set you up. they are expensive but worth it then you can tell real stuff

[Hondarocks]

Jeep dont worry, H2O has been harrassing other members on here, dont take it personally, I am beginning to think he is a troll.

[H2Okid]

H2OKid,
You can call me Gunny Pile, I'm not longer a piss ant, hah. Anyway, I completely understand your logic in almost everything you addressed in your post. But, unfortunately, sometimes common logic is trumped by abnormalities within nature. I have a very solid background in nutrition and have a degree in Exercise and Sports Science. Though there have been times since my injuries that I have resorted to the wrong diet, it hasn't been nearly enough to cause the weight gain and physical degradation that my body has gone through in only 2 1/2 years. Please let me assure you that I am not posting this as a way to whine or swim in my "pity pool", lol. I am simply at a point both physically and mentally where I see no light, no typical answers. Therefore, in the last few months with the desire to save my marriage as a motivator, I have began looking into ever outside the box alternative to help me. HGH is only one of the things that I am seriously considering trying. I've also entered a realm of hippy-ism and started trying alternative treatments.

So, as far as the science goes behind my "conditions," it's definitely a complicated and little understood area. The only thing I can equate the pain and fatigue to that others may understand, is a bad flu... all day, everyday. And the hypothyroidism overlaps and also causes a major slowing of my bodies metabolic functions. Not, to mention that my insides are all in different places and I have a few nice new, alloy support structures inside me. Oh well, it is what it is, so rather than focus on what's wrong I want to focus on ways to help life be closer to normal, using all means necessary.

As far as the psychological stuff goes, you're pretty close to correct. Except my issues aren't motivation they are actual mostly functionality. Even when I change how I think I feel, I still feel how I felt... if that makes sense. It took a long time for me to accept that this was anything more than me turning into a weak minded ***** because the things that I have experienced at war. But, recently I came to terms with the fact that this is more than my mind effin' with me. So I am regrouping, resupplying and shooting to kill, just like I have dealt with all other enemies that were able to infiltrate my defenses. (sorry for the military metaphor)

Thanks for you insight though. Again I welcome all advice and criticism. I know that proper interpretation can often be lost in translation, when online.

ok, you took that well! glad to know there are some peeps with a sense of humor. but yeah, it sounds like hgh would be a good fit for you. i just wanted to make sure that you were covering all the other bases too. its like haviing a hangover and blaming it on being dehydrated, and not blaming it on drinking too much. the dehydration is merely a byproduct of drinking too much toxic liquids(from what ive heard, lol) .

also, there is a remarkabe dr(rumored to be up for the nobel peace prize) for his extensive domination in fighting human disease. he has beaten every for of cancer(even as far as stage4), diabetes, etc that he has treated. and its a very simple theory in biology he teaches. he is contactable through facebook(Dr robert young), and regularly responds to people in unusual health situations. his research is second to non, and his motives are truly intrinsic(true). i would shoot him a message either on FB or his website and get his opinion. its not what most medical dr's are gonna tell you, but if you know anything about the corrupt medical and pharmaceutical industry, that is good!
you have a unique set of problems, so I think he'd be interested in you.

get some hgh though!

best,
kid

[H2Okid]

Welcome to the board mate!
My situation is slightly different. I'm older, have worked out on and off most of my life. Was in great shape, very strong about 10 years ago. Due to career change, and the time/energy investment in this change, things got off track. began gaining weight, drinking, libido plummeted, and my knees/back were killing me. It got to the point that I just wanted to give up. Life was a bitch!
Finally, I got pissed at myself. Again, my situation is different. But i lost the weight, started cardio and weight training. this was about three years ago. made all the difference in the world. But for the first month, trying to build momentum, get motivated, stay motivated was very tough.
With everyone, there gets to be a tipping point, where they are tired of the status quo, tired of the pain, and just tired. It sounds like you are there, you are at your tipping point. I'd suggest, in addition to the path you seem to be going down, I'd suggest that you begin by simply going through the motions. try starting a healthy eating plan. try doing a little walking, and some light exercise. doesn't really have to be much. just make it a goal to simply go through the motions. once you are comfortable simply goiong through the motions, see if you can step it up just a little. Part of your problem is that it sounds like you have some real issues, so it will be difficult getting your mind into the game. But as we all know, half the battle is won inside your head. If you can just get your mind back in the game.
I know this all sounds like BS. But for me, getting my head right was the toughest part. Forcing myself to start walking, forcing myself to pick up the weights and move em a few times.
Good luck!
---Roman

baby steps! fake it till you make it! its always mind over matter! good advice Roman.

i always try to compare myself to the guy who is in worse shoes then I am. maybe its a prisoner of war, someone homeless, someone without hands, leg, feet, etc. It could always be worse. I still love this quote from the Marines, "pain is weekness leaving the body". one of the best ever!

[H2Okid]

[QUOTE=Hondarocks;5822551]Jeep dont worry, H2O has been harrassing other members on here, dont take it personally, I am beginning to think he is a troll.[
dont bark louder than you can bite. you are getting historically known for pawn shop, copycat, cookie cutter advice. just chill out and sit back and learn. 2 ears, 1 mouth.

[Hondarocks]

Haha good luck. Its funny you aline yourself with someone who told you to not have kids and to kill yourself, but hey if thats what you need to do then do it. I know what I need to know and have an unlimited supply of Pharma grade, I dont think you can give anyone advice man, you dont even have GH or know anything about it, last time I checked you came to me wanting stuff. As far as advice, I say buy pharma grade and dont get stuck with bunk GH, secondly GH is a lot easier to run than steroids , and you act like you know everything about everything when it comes to GH, its really not that hard to figure out, you get the stuff you want and do a couple iu's a day. You make is seem much more complicated than it is. But Good luck on your search for riptropin

[H2Okid]

"As far as advice, I say buy pharma grade and dont get stuck with bunk GH" --- WoW, thats deep, great advice, sounds well researched.

"GH is a lot easier to run than steroids "--- just for shitsngigs, Id like to hear YOU explain this...?


". I know what I need to know and have an unlimited supply of Pharma grade"---lol, no you dont! nevermind, i see u got banned moron.

[Jeeper56]

I'm not easily offended, especially over the internet. And the concepts that you pointed out, were on the mark when talking about a typical situation. I will definitely look up that Doc and shoot him an e-mail. It can't hurt to try. I appreciate the information.

Jeep