pituitary gland question

**Chuckdiesel** · 03-09-2012, 09:55 PM

Here is a question I have been unlucky in finding by my own means and hopefully someone here has come across this information...how long does it take your pituitary gland to fill up, or "restock" gh after a gh spike caused by the use of peptides, specifically ghrp 6 and mod grf 1-29?? Any input would be greatly appreciated

**Taylerrr** · 03-20-2012, 05:58 PM

Chuck. I have read your posts man. I need some help.. first of all, 25 years old 241 lbs. 13% bf 6' tall. About a month ago I started cjc 1295 and Ghrp 6.
I had some trouble with the initial dosing, but I think I have it down now.
Cjc 1295 2mg bottle recon w/ 2ml .9% sodium chloride solution (IV fluid)
Ghrp 6 5mg bottle recon w/2.5ml .9% nacl
Using 31g 5/16" 1cc pins now, but was using 25g 5/8" 3cc before
While using the bigger syringe I was pinning about 1/2cc.. about 1/3 cjc and 2/3 Ghrp 3xday.
With ALL of these injections with the larger pins I had no pain or swelling or knotting under the skin. All were done in lower ab region. Hungry, extreme pumps, stiff back, tingling hands.. all of it.. good to go.
Now to my problem. 2 weeks in I ordered some MGF 2mg and frag 176-191 5mg
MGF recon w/2ml .9% nacl
Tried to recon the frag with 2.5 ml and it looked cloudy and settled so I added another. 5ml .. little better.
So right now this is what I'm doing:
In a 1cc pin in am:
150 mcg cjc (4th tick on pin just under 10)
250 mcg ghrp6 (to just past 20 units)
MGF to just past 30 on pin
Frag to 40 on pin.
I know that sounds dumb but I'm horrible at this measuring and dosing.. like horrible. The problem is since I've switched to the 5"16" 1cc pin after pinning I'm starting to get redness and irritation and swelling at the site of injection. This irritation then turns to a painful knot under my skin, which I can grab and pull away from my muscle.. they are stiff and becoming pretty painful, and visible(not good for my line of work ). The knots are not just individual small areas but feel like a pocket. Guess my question is why? Is this normal? Is my needle too small?... and the list goes on.. any advice at all on anything you see in this post would be much appreciated.
Thanks man

**Times Roman** · 03-20-2012, 06:25 PM

you cannot exhaust your gh supply in your pituatary by taking peps. the pituatary holds a relitively large supply, when compared to the minutes amounts used in a spike.

think of it like you are using a drop of water out of a pint size container. the drop you use is pretty much irrelevent compared to the amount on hand and available.

**Chuckdiesel** · 03-20-2012, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by Taylerrr

Chuck. I have read your posts man. I need some help.. first of all, 25 years old 241 lbs. 13% bf 6' tall. About a month ago I started cjc 1295 and Ghrp 6.
I had some trouble with the initial dosing, but I think I have it down now.
Cjc 1295 2mg bottle recon w/ 2ml .9% sodium chloride solution (IV fluid)
Ghrp 6 5mg bottle recon w/2.5ml .9% nacl
Using 31g 5/16" 1cc pins now, but was using 25g 5/8" 3cc before
While using the bigger syringe I was pinning about 1/2cc.. about 1/3 cjc and 2/3 Ghrp 3xday.
With ALL of these injections with the larger pins I had no pain or swelling or knotting under the skin. All were done in lower ab region. Hungry, extreme pumps, stiff back, tingling hands.. all of it.. good to go.
Now to my problem. 2 weeks in I ordered some MGF 2mg and frag 176-191 5mg
MGF recon w/2ml .9% nacl
Tried to recon the frag with 2.5 ml and it looked cloudy and settled so I added another. 5ml .. little better.
So right now this is what I'm doing:
In a 1cc pin in am:
150 mcg cjc (4th tick on pin just under 10)
250 mcg ghrp6 (to just past 20 units)
MGF to just past 30 on pin
Frag to 40 on pin.
I know that sounds dumb but I'm horrible at this measuring and dosing.. like horrible. The problem is since I've switched to the 5"16" 1cc pin after pinning I'm starting to get redness and irritation and swelling at the site of injection. This irritation then turns to a painful knot under my skin, which I can grab and pull away from my muscle.. they are stiff and becoming pretty painful, and visible(not good for my line of work ). The knots are not just individual small areas but feel like a pocket. Guess my question is why? Is this normal? Is my needle too small?... and the list goes on.. any advice at all on anything you see in this post would be much appreciated.
Thanks man

Well first off, thanks for reading my posts...I love sharing info! You seem to be on par with everything. My recommendations would be as follows...when you reconstitute your peptides, stick to a 1:2 ratio. For example, when recon ghrp 6 at 5mg add 2.5 ml of bac water. The sodium chloride is fine to reconstitute but the bad water will better help aid killing bacteria and extending shelf life. Also your peptide fragments will come out cloudy if they are true peptide drags. That's actually a good sign and won't harm you in any way. As for the dosing with a 1cc pin...your never gonna be exact. I would say get some 1/2 cc or 3/10 cc. They are much more precise. Now the itchy little lump is pretty normal. Annoying I know, but not harmful. The smaller pin just deposited your peptides closer to the skin and by your nerve endings in your skin, causing that reaction. Its almost like a temporary allergic reaction. I got the same thing when using the 1 cc pins. I switched to a 1/2 cc 29g 1/2 inch slin pin and I hardly get the itching anymore. I hope that pretty much covered all you asked and please feel free to keep asking anything you wanna know...and my apologies for the general response...im on my phone and its a bit difficult to do this lol

**M302_Imola** · 03-21-2012, 04:50 AM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

you cannot exhaust your gh supply in your pituatary by taking peps. the pituatary holds a relitively large supply, when compared to the minutes amounts used in a spike.

think of it like you are using a drop of water out of a pint size container. the drop you use is pretty much irrelevent compared to the amount on hand and available.

Nice reply! I will add to that by saying it is important to space out at least 3 hours in between pinning 100mcg GHRP/GHRH in order to not desensitize the body. Pulses of GH is what you are after so pinning the peptides multiple times (most prefer morn, pwo, and bedtime) is preferred. A peptide induced GH pulse (100mcg GHRP/GHRH) should last somewhere between 1-3 hours.

**Chuckdiesel** · 03-24-2012, 06:20 AM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

you cannot exhaust your gh supply in your pituatary by taking peps. the pituatary holds a relitively large supply, when compared to the minutes amounts used in a spike.

think of it like you are using a drop of water out of a pint size container. the drop you use is pretty much irrelevent compared to the amount on hand and available.

Ah very nice way of putting it! Thanks!!