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03-16-2012, 11:02 PM #1
has anyone tried cjc 1295 with dac??
Hello everyone, I'm curious if anyone has tried cjc 1295 with dac?? I'm curious as to try running some. I completely understand the risks associated with a long term high level of GH produced at a constant rate could lead to some nasty side effects, but I'm wondering about short term use? Like during a one week period of some ultra intense lifting. Would your levels of igf peak high enough to warrant substantial gains in such a short time period? Has anyone given this a thought or try??
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03-18-2012, 06:49 AM #2
dont use it... use without DAC (also known as mod GRF 1-29)
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03-18-2012, 06:57 AM #3
Also cjc is NOT GH as you mention and use for one week would be pointless. most people find side effects of peptides to be very minimal but by the sound of it you dont really know what yo uare doing. Might be able to help some more with the following info.
Age:
Weight:
Height:
bodyfat:
Years training:
Previous cycles:
Diet:
Goals:
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03-18-2012, 06:09 PM #4
Oh I never called it GH, I said I understand that since it has a long half life it causes the pituitary to produce GH at a constant rate, also known as "GH bleed". Sorry for any confusion in my original post. I actually have some experience with peptides, as I have been using them for the last 4 months or so. I currently am running ghrp 6 along with mod grf 1-29. That stack works great. I was just curious as to If anyone else around this forum has experimented with the cjc 1295 with dac, as for I love experimenting and trying a multitude of doses and when and how often I administer the peptides...as for my info...
age: 29
weight: 205
height 6' 4"
bodyfat: 7.7 %
years training: 12
previous cycles: cycle 1 2007...600mg test cyp every 5 days for 18 weeks and 150mg dbol a day for 8 weeks...ya now I know what I know my guy who set me up was retarded...cycle 2 2008...800 or so mg sustanon a week given in equal doses eod. I gained a solid 24lbs with that cycle and kept about 20 of it....well ill stop here and say my current cycle...its 50mg test prop ed run for 4 weeks with 375mg test enth every 5 days run for 18 weeks, 500 iu hcg every 4 days...im gonna add 75mg of tren ace a day for the last 6 weeks of my cycle...im currently 3 weeks into my current cycle. I started my peptides with my last pct and are gonna continue running them into this cycle and my pct for this cycle.
diet: I could go on and on here but to summarize it up I eat about a dozen egg whites with 2 yolks split a couple times a day, a lb of chicken split between lunch and dinner, 2 cups of brown rice, once in a great while ill use white rice but 90% of the time its brown rice, a large sweet potato at lunch, a can of chunk light tuna a day, lots of cottage cheese, couple cups of 1% milk...and so on...this is the area where I am very in tune with
goals: Short term is to increase my bottom end strength on my bench press. I use a mid rep, ultra high intense style training mixed with some really heavy low end bench presses on the smith. Long term...just overall aesthetics. Not really looking for the competition or the glamour and what not.
If there is anything else that is needed just ask away!
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03-19-2012, 08:00 AM #5
If you are already on that combo (I assume 100mcg ea 3 x daily?)
Stick with what yo uare doing, thats the best protocol, with dac used to be used until they realise the bleed effect was not ideal.
Sounds like everything is going well for you with your stats and if thats all you need to know dont bother you have it right already
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03-24-2012, 06:19 AM #6
Yes so far that stack, I use roughly 150mcg of each morning, before workout and before bed, and it does work great. Im actually going back to just using ghrp 6 alone and adding the mod grf for just before bed. I started off just using the ghrp 6 alone for a month before adding the mod grf and after taking the mod grf away and just running the ghrp 6 again I can say there are vast differences, and from what ive gathered so far the ghrp 6 alone works best for me...but thats a whole other conversation and im curious about the cjc with dac. Now I understand the gh bleed isn't natural and isn't ideal...but isn't it the same concept as using synthetic hgh? I haven't used hgh but from what I've gathered it follows a 12 hour curve with a peak and decline of a unnatural level of gh. Now when someone multi doses hgh in a day and keeps their synthetic gh levels high throughout the entire day, isn't that somewhat the same concept as your own pituitary gland releasing gh at a constant rate?? What im basically trying to gather is the difference between cjc 1295 with dac and a multidose schedule of synthetic hgh. Other than what you can find on any corner of the internet saying the gh bleed is bad and nasty and isn't natural so stay away from cjc 1295 with dac at all costs...DONT USE! lol...but in essence isn't that the kind of bad and nasty and unnatural things we try to find to put on muscle? If anyone has any input as to what they think about any of this I would love to hear it. Im gonna open the door to cjc 1295 with dac regardless, but I just wanna prepare for something that has the potential to be as large and powerful as this peptide. Also, I understand on should run slin with their synthetic hgh...would the same rule apply here?
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aside from the health risks from gh bleed which dac causes, cjc with dac has been shown to be pretty much worthless, it barely increases baseline gh leves and i mean barely its a fractional difference, the risks far outweigh the rewards
if you want a chart showing the effects of mod grf versus gh versus cjc with dac then pm me as i cant post it on open forumLast edited by DanB; 03-24-2012 at 03:35 PM.
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03-24-2012, 03:42 PM #8
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