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    70sAesthetics is offline New Member
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    1 Year of Pain ~ HGH

    I am a 24yrs old, and have been out of the gym for a year. I have ligament laxity in a rib/ribs in my upper left back and chest. This causes pain, spasms, popping, cracking, snapping, sharp and dull aches and involuntary muscle twitching when relaxing from a cns malfunction. Ligaments seem to never heal especially when every breath you take and move you make the rib is moving.


    I had done 7 treatments of prolozone, which seemed to help alot but which got re-screwed up by a osteopath. And I was unsure how effective it was as so easily screwed up again.

    I have done 1 treatment of prolotherapy so far. The solution was hypertonic dextrose 12.5-20% (unsure) with 2IU's of GH. I am getting treatments like this every 2-3 weeks. With and estimation of 4-7 total.

    Now my question is, would me running HGH on my own accord be worth it? The doc was using 2IU's, which is nothing but remember he is injecting that directly into the rib ligament injury. If I ran my own HGH, I couldnt pin it into the injury site as I cant pin my ribs in my back and chest.

    I am still a natural with 3 years of solid training. I had
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    i think this is a medical situation that your doctor can tell you what to do
    it has to do with your health and healing
    not to be discussed with AAS and HGH experts

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    yannick35 is offline Anabolic Member
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    Depression and suicidal toughs are normal at some point when we cannot seem to find a cure or answers to our pain, we have gone true so much seeing every specialist there is and not getting anywhere, been there done that, i almost killed myself back in 2008 after going to theses idiots chiros and they screwed me up even more for a year and a half then going to this special medical sport clinic and they gave me a bunch of exercise to strengthen some already tight muscles.

    There is help and hope out there my friend there really is, you first need to understand that prolotherapy wonderful has it is, is not a cure all and is very slow working, i am shitting you not i have no money to gain from this, i am talking about my personal and on going experience, i am not done with prolo yet.

    Depending on the laxity that you have prolo can take a year or 2 to fix everything, its very important that you stay inactive for the first few months of treatment, so that the ligaments can strengthen, they have very poor blood supply so its very long journey.

    At some point it will get worst, don't worry its the normal process of healing. There is a good chance that the cracking will never go away but my girlfriend cracks a lot and is not in pain. The important thing is that you be pain free and can get back to an active life.

    Dextrose xylocaine is pure crap i got so many prolo treatments from that and it was always back to the drawing board, its just not strong enough, right now my cocktail is sodium morrhuate with salin 30% and it gets the job done, i am getting prolo every 2-3 weeks, the inflammation must be awful hard impact to shock the body into repairing itself.

    PRP is shit and expensive not worth 1 penny i got that done and sued the medical doctor, also they say 4-6 treatment is all that is needed every 6 weeks that is also total bull, you might need 20 treatments or more of good prolo to get things back to normal.

    After prolo avoid icing, avoid anything that can limite inflammation ever fish oil, all anti inflamatory drugs and more. You can take hot baths to help get more blood circulation.

    You need to eat high protein to repair the body at this point take MSM, glutamine, dessicated liver tabs (lots of good iron blood circulation and vitamin Bs) i take 12 tabs per day 6 morning and 6 night crush them they are big, also take 5g creatine, collagen supplement, to make sure the ligaments have all they need for repair.

    Avoid high impact exercise, if you can go swimming that would be your best option now. I started training again with weights NO MORE SQUATTING, DEADLIFTING and heavy bench press, i am 40 years old, i wanna train til i die.

    I am using vince gironda 8 X 8 program with moderate weight that helps pump the blood back into the muscles.

    Make sure to find a competent prolotherapist and ask request sodium morrhuate at once, no more dextrose crap. Be patient healing will come and you will get your life back.

    Good luck bro and keep me posted. Also stop going to chiros and osteopath they are just dumb idiots that don't know what they are doing they have no clue about ligament laxity, and there adjustments will make you a lot worst, a chiro adjustments is worst then a football player tackle the science is there to prove it. Imagine what it does to your body.

    GH is best injected into the injured site 2IU is good GH injected like this in the body will not do nothing believe me i have spent a lot of money on this, save your money for prolotherapy.

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    This is a reply to your private message that could also help others

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