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    growth hormone

    I'm 40 and doing my 1st cycle (sus250 2xs a week). What are the benefits of gh? If I wanted to use it for muscle building where do I look for info..... here??

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    two things can happen in muscle fiber to promote growth:

    hyperplasia - increase in number of muscle cells
    hypertrophy - increase in size of muscle cells

    GH promotes hyperplasia, increasing the number of new muscle cells. This is a very slow process, but the results are somewhat permanent. Although the standard response is you need to cycle GH for at least six months to see results, the reality is that those that use GH for this purpose, (think Sly Stallone) have used it for years.

    Because of a variety of reasons, the GH popularity seems to be waning. Over 90% of the GH sold on the internet is bogus. And it is VERY expensive. And there is no easy way to tell if bogus or legit.

    The anti aging community is focused on it too, but at much lower doses, say between 1 and 2 iu/day.

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    The prices ive heard are £150-£200 for 150ius. If you took 2ius a day 5on 2off it would last 3months or there abouts plus your roids (£35 a month, test only) doesnt sound overly expensive. .... or am I getting it arse about face?? I'm not doubting you in anyway whatsoever. ... you have my full respect but I need to question to understand!

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    the doses you are suggesting are in line with the anti aging protocols and not body building protocols. You won't get much if any benefit at 10ius/week as a weightlifter.

    Quote Originally Posted by chester101 View Post
    The prices ive heard are £150-£200 for 150ius. If you took 2ius a day 5on 2off it would last 3months or there abouts plus your roids (£35 a month, test only) doesnt sound overly expensive. .... or am I getting it arse about face?? I'm not doubting you in anyway whatsoever. ... you have my full respect but I need to question to understand!

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    after the age of 20 i think your natural gh production reduces by 14% per year, you would see some anti aging effect and probably muscle increase and fat loss...

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    What sort of dosage are we looking at for muscle growth? I understand running test along side is highly recommended. What sort of cycles is recommended ie time on/off..... and do you continue hgh at end of test cycle? Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by chester101 View Post
    What sort of dosage are we looking at for muscle growth? I understand running test along side is highly recommended. What sort of cycles is recommended ie time on/off..... and do you continue hgh at end of test cycle? Cheers
    Hi

    The norm is to use gh for 3 months initially ramping up the dose from 2ius ED to 5 or 6ius then at month 3 include aas cycle. Say u r running test e, itd be for 12 weeks where u run gh throughout then finish ur aas cycle, pct while continuing gh...what most recommend is 6 to 8 month gh cycles...also u can lower yr dose of gh post cycle to 3 or 4ius like a cruising dose (depends on yr financials).

    Make sure u have your AI and PCT in check before u dive into aas.

    Ive been on gh for 3 months now and started test e 2 weeks ago at 500mg EW.
    Gh is now at 5ius (dropped to 4 for a couple of days because of CTS like syndroms in wrists bu back to 5 again). My plan is to run gh for 8 to 10 mnths if possible.

    Im using pharm grade gh bought str8 from pharmacy (where i am, its fully legal).

    I advice u to use nothing but pharm grade as most UGLs seem to carry anything but real gh.

    Check this forum its full of referrences and stories abt fakes and counterfeits. And make sure u get legit stuff.

    I started noticng fat loss from gh at week 3 or 4 & @ 2ius ed. and its helped a lot ever since....inclusion of test was at the recommendation of many savvy guys here because of high level of synergy between aas and gh. and although im still at a very early stage in my test cycle i assure u that the results are fantastic. Nothing like any of the cycles i ever did.

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    I'm just looking into it at mo, as I said I'm on 1st cycle (sus250 2xs week) and I made sure that was pharma grade (1mm amps) my buddy has just started it he's on 2ius a day 5 on 2 off and he's getting pins and needles sensation in wrist (he's on 2nd week) and he's running sus and dec along side... he's 16.5 stone but needs to lose a lot of body fat where as im 12.5 with low bf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chester101 View Post
    I'm just looking into it at mo, as I said I'm on 1st cycle (sus250 2xs week) and I made sure that was pharma grade (1mm amps) my buddy has just started it he's on 2ius a day 5 on 2 off and he's getting pins and needles sensation in wrist (he's on 2nd week) and he's running sus and dec along side... he's 16.5 stone but needs to lose a lot of body fat where as im 12.5 with low bf.
    is your buddy using pharm grade gh or is it some generic brand? in the event of the latter, chances are he is injecting something else than gh into his body or its placebo effect because at such a low dose, the sides you mention are not common at all ( I have been researching for the last 3 months as to when those sides appear and it seems they are not common at all at any dose below 4.5iu) but then again everyone's body is different.

    as for the 5 on /2 off split....Im personally not convinced its any good...it originated as a recommendation to help deal with the cost of the GH and nothing else.

    I prefer a more stable concentration in the body and with 2 days off per week combined with gh's half life, I don't see any benefits from this...but that's my 2 cents...and I am sure people over here with more experience will chime in with their point of view.

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    Any idea which European countrys sell pharma grade over counter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chester101 View Post
    Any idea which European countrys sell pharma grade over counter?
    I live in Lebanon so no idea about Europe...but you might get lucky in Turkey I am told ... or the ex soviet republics...at least this is what the word on the street in Lebanon says...

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