pharma grade hgh at 4iu's a day enough for muscle & fat loss gains ??

**flyguy6661** · 03-01-2014, 10:08 AM

so a few of my mates are getting on some growth at the moment and i wana join in and play ! only shit thing is that its expensive!!! its russian pharma grade stuff and i believe im getting it at a good price. my mates are using 2iu's however i believe 4 iu's is where to begin for muscle & fat loss gains ??? also can you pin mon-friday and have the weekends off ?

**Rick Kane** · 03-01-2014, 10:49 AM

What's russian pharma gh? Just asking because I haven't heard of any. Don't say Neotropin because that doesn't count.

Every day is best but m-f is fine if you're on a budget.

**flyguy6661** · 03-01-2014, 11:23 AM

im not too sure, i think its russian or maybe polish one or the other, looks good stuff.

**marcus300** · 03-01-2014, 11:55 AM

Please edit your post. Price talk isn't allowed thanks

You haven't got pharm grade its generic there is loads of it around and no doubt some form of growth releasing peptide, bunk, or anti diuretic hormone

I'd also advice you to stop using steroids and ghost at your age.

**flyguy6661** · 03-01-2014, 11:59 AM

how do you know its bunk ? its most defo the real deal ! its omnitrope 6.7mg/ml & im sure its russian or polish maybe im wrong, comes in 30iu's

**flyguy6661** · 03-01-2014, 12:02 PM

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=om...%3B1600%3B1200

**marcus300** · 03-01-2014, 12:05 PM

There's thousands of them in the UK at the moment it's all fake bunk gh.

Edit your post regarding the price

Don't use gh at your age

**flyguy6661** · 03-01-2014, 12:07 PM

yea there may be fakes but what i mean is its pharma grade stuff if it is real which the stuff i can get is ! thers fakes of everything !!!!

**marcus300** · 03-01-2014, 12:18 PM

There are a huge number of fakes coming into the UK from Russia at the moment and the UK market is flooded with them.

**flyguy6661** · 03-02-2014, 04:41 AM

im sure there are plenty of fakes your right, however my source gets the real deal as its the only growth he touches himself & hes a close freind of mine too & swears by it. so it isnt generic or ugl it is pharma grade growth. is 4 iu's a good starting point ?

**marcus300** · 03-02-2014, 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by flyguy6661

im sure there are plenty of fakes your right, however my source gets the real deal as its the only growth he touches himself & hes a close freind of mine too & swears by it. so it isnt generic or ugl it is pharma grade growth. is 4 iu's a good starting point ?

No its not, the UK market is flooded with them. they are fake they are not the real deal but if you want to think that that's fine.

4 ius will help with fat loss and condition and general health, needs to be ran for at least 6-12 months to see results - for muscle tissue gains you need around 8-10ius for at least 8-12 months.

Everyone think they have a 100% source but there are thousands and I mean thousands coming from Russia.

**Rick Kane** · 03-02-2014, 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by flyguy6661

im sure there are plenty of fakes your right, however my source gets the real deal as its the only growth he touches himself & hes a close freind of mine too & swears by it. so it isnt generic or ugl it is pharma grade growth. is 4 iu's a good starting point ?

Assuming your gh is legit, 4ius is a good starting point IF Test or androgens are being used. 4ius will change your build nicely but I wouldn't expect much size. Even 4ius of the most potent gh will not do much unless you stay of for at least 6 months in conjunction with AAS.

4ius of gh for 6 months = beach body

4ius of gh + AAS for 6 months = Head turning body

**flyguy6661** · 03-02-2014, 08:14 AM

marcus no disrespect but if you told me what gh you take or have taken and i turned round & said "no its fake" i dont think you would take much notcie of me as how on earth could i know ?? its the shit trust me. mates a monster and swears by it and has taken in for over a year withough getting any fakes and has turned his body round ! and yes it would be used with anabolics and possibly insulin

**marcus300** · 03-02-2014, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by flyguy6661

marcus no disrespect but if you told me what gh you take or have taken and i turned round & said "no its fake" i dont think you would take much notcie of me as how on earth could i know ?? its the shit trust me. mates a monster and swears by it and has taken in for over a year withough getting any fakes and has turned his body round ! and yes it would be used with anabolics and possibly insulin

Ive been using gh for over 20 yrs and constantly around guy who use it. I've used nearly every pharm grade and generic out there, ive bought from some of the best sources out there and also direct from the manufacturers. Ive uncovered many fakes and also the great Ansome and Russian jins con they were doing. I use to buy close to 10,000ius per month from the Chinese and now they have set up a counterfeit operation from Russia. The UK is flooded with fakes from Russian and the Ukraine the fakes are all pharm grade copies they use a mixture of anti-diuretic hormones, growth releasing peptides and also complete junk to fool guys who think they found cheap gh. We think they are originally coming from China but being sold from Russian soil.

Your just a young guy who has been abusing steroids for years who has no idea what he doing, that's obvious from reading all your previous thread history. The fake gh blows people up with water, it also increases the BP to dangerous levels and other types are just plain old growth releasing hormones and if your really lucky you will get complete fake.

The pharm grade fakes what are flooding the UK are Omnitrope Sandoz 10mg/ 1.5ml (30ius), Pfizer Genotropin pens 12mg and another one what I will have to check on when I get back home both I can get for under 80 pound a box, but you can think what you want and believe what you want it makes no difference to me, your still a young guy who doesn't have a clue what he is doing. I was trying to help stop further damage to yourself but ignore me you buy as much as you want and get some insulin inside you aswell.

I knew I was wasting my time writing to you, knock yourself out kid and carry on doing what your doing because one day you will regret it

**flyguy6661** · 03-02-2014, 10:30 AM

this doesnt come in pens, also "abusing" steroids is not my style, once maybe twice a year my only fault is a started a few years too young. if im honest using steroids is one of the best decisions i have ever made & thats no lie ! yes i may regret it some day but not doing something incase i regret it in years to come isnt my style im afraid. im not stupid or dumb, maybe im abit more risky than some but IMO so far my risks outway the bad stuff that could/may happen !!! & yes if it turns out to be shit youl be the first to know so you can feel smug ! also i appreciate you advising me what not to do however im on a steroid forum so im not looking for a carer im simply asking direct questions, i hope this doesnt come across cocky its just ive been here long enough now so know the score, some dont like helping others with there goals others do.