Insulin question help!

[IlikeGear]

Heyy guys im thinking of taking INSULIN 2iu's PWO everyday, can comeone tell me how to be safe with this wit a good layed out table on what t do exacly when and how to gan a much with minimum fat.

[Docd187123]

Heyy guys im thinking of taking INSULIN 2iu's PWO everyday, can comeone tell me how to be safe with this wit a good layed out table on what t do exacly when and how to gan a much with minimum fat.

Me thinks that if you have questions such as these you are NOWHERE near prepared enough to run insulin safely. Be safe and think about what you're doing before you do it. STUDY STUDY STUDY STUDY

[IlikeGear]

Me thinks that if you have questions such as these you are NOWHERE near prepared enough to run insulin safely. Be safe and think about what you're doing before you do it. STUDY STUDY STUDY STUDY

Well sorry i didnt say my actual cycle that i was gonna do detailed.

ill be doing 5 days on 2 days off for 2-3 weeks,

ill be working out and going home straight away and shoot 4 ius. immediately after that ill be having my bulk protein which has 43g carbs and 43g protein. an hour later i will have a good mean with high protein and 40g carbs from a cup of rice. and at the 2.5 hr mark ill have another small mean with 20g protein and 20g carbs. and ill have a bottle of coke/orange juice or any juice on stand by just incase i feel hypo.

as this is my table above, is it looking safe? and is my carb intake good ?

[IlikeGear]

i wanna gain muscle with minimum fat so can someone adjust my carb intake to a more appropriate level and teach me a lil more.

[diabeticknowledge]

What brand and type of insulin are you using? I hope it is rapid acting at least

First things first, buy a BG monitor

Then find out when does the insulin peak?
Where are you injecting?

You intend to consume 43g carbs for those 4 ius immediately, your body happens to produce insulin so when the insulin actually hits you which i suppose is in the range of 30-50 minutes then you do not have 10g of carbs per iu of insulin.
It is onset in 10-20min but its effect is almost none until it hits hard.

Does your bulk proteine contain any fat?
Will you be eating any fat an hour before practice?
What is the primary source of the carbohydrates, simple complex ratio...

Please, while getting to know this stuff do not think about some lbm gains. you can do that later, just focus on not getting killed...

Have someone in on this with you, preferably a diabetic person or someone who understands what is going on.

[IlikeGear]

Ill be injecting about 1 inch from my belly button on the fat under the skin,
I will consume my shake 5 mins after injection and have my first meal 30 minutes after my shot and the other another 1 hour after that. just to be safe in that case.
My protein has 5g fat per shake.
i am thinking of buying waxy maize for carbs as my source.
i will not be consuming any fats will have, chicken breast with rice or boiled eggs with 1 glass of water 1-.1.5 hrs pre injection

[IlikeGear]

What brand and type of insulin are you using? I hope it is rapid acting at least

First things first, buy a BG monitor

Then find out when does the insulin peak?
Where are you injecting?

You intend to consume 43g carbs for those 4 ius immediately, your body happens to produce insulin so when the insulin actually hits you which i suppose is in the range of 30-50 minutes then you do not have 10g of carbs per iu of insulin.
It is onset in 10-20min but its effect is almost none until it hits hard.

Does your bulk proteine contain any fat?
Will you be eating any fat an hour before practice?
What is the primary source of the carbohydrates, simple complex ratio...

Please, while getting to know this stuff do not think about some lbm gains. you can do that later, just focus on not getting killed...

Have someone in on this with you, preferably a diabetic person or someone who understands what is going on.

its is novorapid, which i think is humolog.
Ill be injecting about 1 inch from my belly button on the fat under the skin,
I will consume my shake 5 mins after injection and have my first meal 30 minutes after my shot and the other another 1 hour after that. just to be safe in that case.
My protein has 5g fat per shake.
i am thinking of buying waxy maize for carbs as my source.
i will not be consuming any fats will have, chicken breast with rice or boiled eggs with 1 glass of water 1-.1.5 hrs pre injection

[IlikeGear]

i also bought a Glucose Meter how often should i check my blood sugar levels after injection? every 15 mins?

[diabeticknowledge]

novorapid is not humalog but both are rapid acting.
try not to eat any fat after injecting insulin , the reason for that is mainly because it slows absorption of sugar and it will ruin you cholestrol levels in long term. you increase your risk of cardiovascular diseases if you eat fat during the insulin window.

please buy some proper carb source, long lasting maltodextrin and dextrose for fast acting...

measuring every 15 mins will show you 1. onset time and then probably 2. the peak. thats too big of a gap, it would be too late if youve made a mistake. every five minutes after the first 10 minutes to pass to be safe, more the merrier.

keep in mind that it will probably hit you sooner than the approximated timing which is charted and official. elderly people/ fatter people will have closer to the official time.


do you have anyone in on this with you?
stay safe

[IlikeGear]

novorapid is not humalog but both are rapid acting.
try not to eat any fat after injecting insulin , the reason for that is mainly because it slows absorption of sugar and it will ruin you cholestrol levels in long term. you increase your risk of cardiovascular diseases if you eat fat during the insulin window.

please buy some proper carb source, long lasting maltodextrin and dextrose for fast acting...

measuring every 15 mins will show you 1. onset time and then probably 2. the peak. thats too big of a gap, it would be too late if youve made a mistake. every five minutes after the first 10 minutes to pass to be safe, more the merrier.

keep in mind that it will probably hit you sooner than the approximated timing which is charted and official. elderly people/ fatter people will have closer to the official time.


do you have anyone in on this with you?
stay safe

well ive got a question to ask, this is what im gonna do with my meals, in order to stay safe. im gonna get whey protein,dextrose, and maltodextrin for the meals, heres my new time table.

wake up in the morning 9am go gym, workout a very good full body workout then come home, get my whey shake and my dextrose ready and extra juice on the side ready, have my shot and take my dextrose drink 5 mins after my shot, have my whey shake at the 10 min mark and drink it over 10 mins, at the 30 min mark ill have my maltodextrin and a chicken breast. at 1.5 hours all have 2 cans of tuna and maltodetrin again.

Here is how it is, ill start with 2 IU's , first shake 50g protein 20g carbs,30min meal 40g protein 20g malto carbs, 3rd meal, 40g protein 15g malto carbs (maby 20g if experiencing any sides for hypo).

and ive got a glucose meter which i can always monitor myself with every 10 mins while holding my drink<-- i wanna play carefully.
and no one is in on it with me

[IlikeGear]

well ive got a question to ask, this is what im gonna do with my meals, in order to stay safe. im gonna get whey protein,dextrose, and maltodextrin for the meals, heres my new time table.

wake up in the morning 9am go gym, workout a very good full body workout then come home, get my whey shake and my dextrose ready and extra juice on the side ready, have my shot and take my dextrose drink 5 mins after my shot, have my whey shake at the 10 min mark and drink it over 10 mins, at the 30 min mark ill have my maltodextrin and a chicken breast. at 1.5 hours all have 2 cans of tuna and maltodetrin again.

Here is how it is, ill start with 2 IU's , first shake 50g protein 20g carbs,30min meal 40g protein 20g malto carbs, 3rd meal, 40g protein 15g malto carbs (maby 20g if experiencing any sides for hypo).

and ive got a glucose meter which i can always monitor myself with every 10 mins while holding my drink<-- i wanna play carefully.
and no one is in on it with me

Just to update info so u guys can maby help me increase or decrease my carbs or protein in order to gain as much muscle as i can ill lay this out.

I am currently 144 lbs
5ft 8 1⁄2
23 years old.
Ive made up my mind 100% that ill get on ins ofc with all the safety as i can and equipment, what you guys can do for me is maby adjust my protein or carbs in order to help me gain as much as i can.

[bobtail]

144# at 5'8"???? Dude, you need to eat, eat, eat! And while your at it, train doggcrapp for a few years. Google it if you never heard of it. You might want to Google the GOMAD diet, too.
Enough of the rant.
Your good to go on your insulin type. There is absolutely no need to inject except post workout. Some folks on here might fight me on that but I've been doing it for years and learned this protocol from a HUGE IFBB pro. So there! Inject right before your post workout shake.
The rule of thumb is 10g of quick carbs to each 1IU of insulin. You can use whatever you want: waxy maize, dextrose, etc. I just use plain old table sugar. It really doesn't matter that much. I add 60g of protein and 5g of creatine to the shake as well.
Start slow with 2IU and 30g carbs and keep adding 1IU of insulin and 10g of carbs until you hit 5IU of insulin and 50-60g of carbs. That's all you need at your age and weight.
Google the signs of hypoglycemia so you know how it feels. Everyone reacts differently. I get really sleep. But don't go to sleep! Drink a non-diet soda if you start to fade out. I never monitor my blood sugar anymore but it would be a good idea to check it 2 hours or so after the injection since that's the peak time of the slin you have. If it gets close to 80, drink a coke. Below 70 and your getting in the danger zone. Don't panic and just down a coke or two. Generally you will perk up in 10 minutes or so. You do tend to feel like crap after a hypo attack, though.
Just take it slow and get the feel for how you react to the insulin. More is not better, btw. And for God's sake, please stop worrying about getting fat! Hit the dollar menu at McDonalds and down a few double cheeseburgers. Eat until your stuffed and then eat more! Food is the most anabolic substance on the planet!

[diabeticknowledge]

bobtail, It peaks at 45-90min. In real life its closer to 45, if he is checking for the peak at 2 hour mark, he will be in a coma if there were any mistakes done...


please get someone in on this with you or carry some sort of a note if you really dont want to.

And please tell me you have pens not syringes

[cantbetouched]

Stop too many questions! he needs to research.

[bsterling]

What's wrong with syringes?

Ilikegear, u sound like your ready bro just finished my first insulin cycle w/ no test and gained about 12 pounds in 4 weeks. All my lifts went up 30-50lbs, it was comparable to a cycle.

Take care!