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    degenerative disc disease and igf1

    Hey guys I was wondering if someone might of used igf1 to help with degenerative disc disease? I've done some reading and most studies say it works but can't find anything about dosages, cycle length, how long before results etc etc. My mother in law has DDD bad (like on major pain pills) and I would like to help her if I can.

    Any info that would help would be greatly appreciated

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    Hi,

    IGF-1 does help, and can halt and/or even reverse degeneration of the disc.

    Best source for IGF-1 is from hGH, plus you cant get medical grade igf that easy...

    The problem is, since she is on painkillers, she might not benefit from the drug. Most people dont get DDD without getting a prolaps and a herniation afterwards, you need to be relatively pain free for it to have the best use. Sciatic pain needs to be dealt with and then you might consider using GH. Gh would probably have an overall great effect on an elderly subject, it is good for chronic pain and so many things.

    and another thing about the painkillers, its poison. try to use anything but opioids

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    You think gh would be a better option? What dose would you recommend? The pain killers she uses ranges from thc pills to oxycodone and perks. She volunteers to help lots of people and pushes herself till she is in so much pain she is vomiting. I'd just like to help her get better and off all the pain pills or at least not need them as often.

    Thanks for any suggestions

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    GH is easier to deal with and the global effect doesnt harm either. I dont even know a single brand of IGF-1, so you probably have a hard time finding one.

    Dosage: something around 2 iu every other day, its a common medical purposes dosage. It will be like for her to be in her twenties or thirties. Ed injections have shown no benefits over eod, injections should be at the morning. Watch for changes in glucose tolerance.

    and please have her stop doing things that cause her pain, you dont have to make many mistakes in this state to become paralyzed (if there is a prolaps/herniation).

    Im not sure if GH will do, disc degeneration is hard to deal with when its been there for long.
    So you/she have other things to consider:

    Ugliest one (only if in severe pain) : Spinal fusion - many flaws, other discs will probably fail in 5-10 years. Still better than being addicted to opioids.

    Microdiectomy if she has a bad herniation, but still its a stupid and ugly operation. It has poor overall effect in long term.

    Best one (if you have the money): Disc replacement - with a possibility to become good as new. Ive heard it might cost around 100.000 in america. but in europe its like 1/5 of that.

    There are two versions of fusion and replacement, one fusion operation is actually not that bad if they only have to brace over one disc. The cheaper disc replacement looks like a small fusion but the ruined disc is removed and is much better than a fusion, mobility is also still there.

    hope she isnt using oxycodone much, its very addictive and has much more impact on your character than THC

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