HGH, IGF LR3, TB500 together

**helio8** · 09-11-2014, 07:16 AM

Been working out for a very long time now. Played football and wrestled at highschool, college, and international level. Have been running Keife HGH for a while (4iu a day 5/2) as well as 120mcg IGF LR3 and TB500 loading cycle and currently maintaining.

Trying to decide if I want to try and add a differwnt type of HGH to the list, or add MGF. Any thoughts??? I heard Keife is dosed higher than advertised. I am staying away from the juice because of MPB. Any thoughts of how I can increase lean muscle, recovery, fat lose aside from workout routine.

**Juced_porkchop** · 09-11-2014, 08:38 AM

I would swap the igf1lr3 for a ghrp2 and mod GRF 1-29 combo withyour HGH. there would be a great synergy using them at same time IMO

**helio8** · 09-11-2014, 02:51 PM

Why the swap...always looking for ideas

**brazey** · 09-11-2014, 03:28 PM

Wrong forum...

BG · 09-11-2014, 03:30 PM

Moved.

**helio8** · 09-11-2014, 03:39 PM

Sorry always want to play by the game.

I will always take mad advice from juced porkchop

**helio8** · 09-11-2014, 03:46 PM

Gottcha, sorry.

So, Juced porkchop, why not add Mod GRF and GHRP6 or 2, to the stack and keep LR3 and add MGF???? I will always use HGH and peptides, I am not an AAS user, because of possible MPB (SCARY TO ME).

TB500 I have ran before, and it is LEGIT.

I read that IGF regrows cartilage, so keeping with the stack I would think would heal and help me grow quicker. Less down time from the gym, lifting or running.

Thanks for any input.

**helio8** · 09-12-2014, 12:35 PM

Quick question, what HGH is better, Rips, Keife, or Hyge. Prices will vary, but not by much.

Thanks

**Mp859** · 09-12-2014, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by helio8

Quick question, what HGH is better, Rips, Keife, or Hyge. Prices will vary, but not by much. Thanks

Pharm grade or bust.

**helio8** · 09-13-2014, 10:05 AM

So pharma or nothing else. Saw incredible serum levels from some rips from an "s" of mine. So you recommend only pharma. Do hyge qualify as pharma. If you are talking about Serostim, yeah, I could only wish I could get my hands on that stuff. Getting that stuff or knowing how to would be amazing, but I don't, so I can only use what I can get, Keife, Hyge, Rips.

**helio8** · 09-13-2014, 10:25 AM

About the "stuff" I am taking.

Only about a year ago I was diagnosed with spinal disk degeneration, and was having serious problems with my back. I have multiple herniated disks in lower back and had trouble bending over. Because of this, I started taking all the "stuff" I listed above, with the addition of nondefatted liver powder, beef gelatin, and glucosamine with msm.

After 4 month of taking this stuff 3 times a day, the pain slowly dissipated away and all pain left. My squats came back with no pain. I was able to run longer, faster (liver powder, no Joke. Look up the studies). I was back to my old self. Also, my skin, nails, hair, teeth, and energy was LEGIT.

For anyone on here looking for the Mother of all "stuff", this is it.

Again, I have been working out since 6th grade, I am now 31. I have wrestled at the international level at the olympic training center, played college football, and still maintain a killer phyisic. I don't go crazy on a diet, just eliminate crap food. No Soda.

It is G2G, LEGIT

**helio8** · 09-14-2014, 10:10 AM

Throwing out another question. Having done a lot of research on TB500, I am currently running 2mg a week. This is after a loading phase of 2mg/day for 7 days. I have defiantly seen results however, with your experience and knowledge, is this a good dose, or is it over or underdosed.

Any help on my peps and gh protocal is greatly appreciated.

**marcus300** · 09-14-2014, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by helio8

So pharma or nothing else. Saw incredible serum levels from some rips from an "s" of mine. So you recommend only pharma. Do hyge qualify as pharma. If you are talking about Serostim, yeah, I could only wish I could get my hands on that stuff. Getting that stuff or knowing how to would be amazing, but I don't, so I can only use what I can get, Keife, Hyge, Rips.

It will be fake, or at its best some other pep. The LR3 is useless and all hype with excellent marketing to catch the newbie market. There is no alternative just seek pharm grade gh and you will be good to go anything else your wasting your time and money no matter what lab test's you've seen

**helio8** · 09-14-2014, 11:20 AM

So you are talking about HGH and LR3, not TB500. The IGF is pharma that I am on, it is manufactured by a legit laboratory used for university research. The HGH, however is not Pharma, however I get the common sides from HGH even at 4iu. Hands very, very tight in morning. Wrist swelling. Improved sleep. Mixed with TB500 crazy fast healing.

Why only pharma. I ask, because I found out my guy does carry it, but prices are out of this world. I know because his "D" is a VERY good friend of mine.

I know a lot of people don't trust IGF, but I know the stuff really works.

I had to cut from 200 lbs down to 148 in 2 months, and I retained almost all of my strength while on IGF AND TB500.

IGF really gave me peaks on my biceps, that I still carry to this day as well as mass to my butt.

What is your stance on LEGIT TB500.

Price talk is not allowed, and I know I have to build up my posts before anyone can PM me, common forum rules.

Not at all new to the game, like I said, you don't get to the level I am at without help, beleive me, PED is everything at the top level.

**marcus300** · 09-14-2014, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by helio8

So you are talking about HGH and LR3, not TB500. The IGF is pharma that I am on, it is manufactured by a legit laboratory used for university research. The HGH, however is not Pharma, however I get the common sides from HGH even at 4iu. Hands very, very tight in morning. Wrist swelling. Improved sleep. Mixed with TB500 crazy fast healing.

Why only pharma. I ask, because I found out my guy does carry it, but prices are out of this world. I know because his "D" is a VERY good friend of mine.

I know a lot of people don't trust IGF, but I know the stuff really works.

I had to cut from 200 lbs down to 148 in 2 months, and I retained almost all of my strength while on IGF AND TB500.

IGF really gave me peaks on my biceps, that I still carry to this day as well as mass to my butt.

What is your stance on LEGIT TB500.

Price talk is not allowed, and I know I have to build up my posts before anyone can PM me, common forum rules.

Not at all new to the game, like I said, you don't get to the level I am at without help, beleive me, PED is everything at the top level.

If that's what you truly believe just ignore my post. You carry on

**Mp859** · 09-14-2014, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by helio8

I know because his "D" is a VERY good friend of mine.

Came out pretty funny.

**helio8** · 09-14-2014, 11:54 AM

Yes, I have a diff view point, but that does not mean I don't respect you with the uttermost respect. As a forum notes, we come together and give our points of view. Concerning HGH I agree, Pharma by far is G2G. This I completely agree with you on. Concerning IGF, I know it works, I have seen the evidence first hand. And yes, that has to be pharma grade as well.

Down to TB500, do you hold that stuff does not work?

Just going on this forum to talk and get experience and feedback.

Please don't take anything I say as insulting or not h3ading your advice, I think we can always learn from one another.

As an individual I have had the benefit of setting up a Mr. Universes gym with him. He placed 7th. He was injured in a car accident and was crippled from the waist down for years and was ba k to walking and working out. He had Ronnie Coleman to his gym, as well as gave me the in's about working out and developed the WORKOUT PLAN for me....LEGIT.

Please, no disrespect, just questions. SORRY I did not mean to come across as anything but humble and looking for reasons.

Quick stats:
5'9"
Dropped from 200 to 148 for wrestling
Bench: around 300
Squat : Over 300
Front Squat: Over 300
Massive pull ups and push ups, 110 in 60 secs (push ups)
40 yard dash: 4.5 sec
Vertical leap: high 30's
Under 6 min mile

Have beat 6' 7" guys in grappling contest.

Can't list place, to revealing, but medaled at Arnold Classic, US Grappling, NAGA Grappling, and train at Olympic Training Center. Friends and former competition of mine are olympians and contenders for UFC belt.

Just wanted to give more background.

I am not looking to put on mass weight, looking to maintain strength to weight ratio or have it go up.

Please I respect you, maybe I should have said my goals first...I AM AT FAULT HERE...SORRY!!!

**helio8** · 09-14-2014, 11:56 AM

Yeah, "D" came out bad. I don't want to break forum rules. I don't like the Dick for all those reading...bad move by me, very bad move

**helio8** · 09-14-2014, 11:57 AM

Marcus 300 you weren't refering to the "D" remark, right....I have always passed on the "D"

**helio8** · 09-15-2014, 07:05 PM

Per Marcus300 I will stop the IGF LR3. I am trusting you know your stuff.

How about these as a stack
Rips from one of the only two known sources
TB500
Mod Grf 1-29
Ipamorelin

Hope I did not insult you Marcus300 do not want to.