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    Arrow Recovery Comeback Cycle with Peptides

    Ok so it's been a bit and I want some advice/criticism and opinions on my cycle. I'm a bit stubborn so if something needs to drastically change I'm gonna ask for some facts to back up opinions. I really appreciate everyones input in advance.

    This cycle is to get my joints and body back in good operating conditioning first and foremost. Second I need amazing recovery so I can train a lot. Third, I need to get some solid strength gains. I want to keep it as healthy, moderate, and liver safe as possible yet reach for some goals. Basically if I'm gonna do it I need good returns with minimal sides.

    TB500 @ 2.5mg EW
    Ipamorelin @ 200-300mcg+
    Sermorelin @ 50-100mcg 2-3x ED

    Can all of these be injected Sub-Q with BW?
    Can I mix them together? Can I mix them with MT2?
    I have enough to run 8 weeks at these doses currently but will probably continue on for 6 months or more if costs are justified. How do these compounds compare to 4-6IU GH ED in your experience?

    Anavar @ 100mg ED (25 days)
    Test E @ 250mg+
    Deca @ 150mg+
    Tren E @ 62.5mg E5D
    Arimidex @ .25mg EOD-ED

    Any reason I would need to do this more than every 5 days. I'm not looking to get huge, and especially not needlessly bloated. I will run the Anavar the first 25 days to get me started and the rest for about 6 months. Deca at that dose gives me joint relief without excessive bloat and Tren I don't dare go any higher personally but should be enough to influence strength and maybe a little fat loss. I realize the shut down and I'm not new to PCT. I need the recovery for that amount of time so I need to stay on and plan on continuing on HRT as my natural levels are diminished. I can't seem to find HCG for a fair price so I was wondering if using Clomid during would prevent severe testical atrophy?

    There are a lot of questions so I really appreciate anyone with knowledge taking the time to break this down and give me sound feedback. This needs to be the best, most productive, cycle I've ever done. I will be an absolute beast considering what I know about these compounds and how hard I've been working without them. Please help me get this right! Thanks!

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    How long have you been back at the gym?
    Stats?
    Cycle experience

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    3 years. I cycled for about 10 years straight with GH the last 2 years and everything China has ever made available to us. I don't advocate my previous use of AS to anyone but I've tried it all and too much and I'm looking to do the right amount for the right results at this point. It's been about 5-6 years since I've done anything so I believe my system is healed and will respond well.
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    6'3 @ 210 @ 12%. I'm a little guy now. Need to put on about 10-15lbs very lean mass and drop bf down below 9. I'd be doing better but constant nagging injuries keep setting me back which is why I'm here.

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    China?

    Forgive me...BUT, isn't the Chinese GH fake? I've never ordered OS, but from what i've read its 192 AA COUNT and not 191.

    How did the 2yr Chinese GH run work for U?

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    3 years. I cycled for about 10 years straight with GH the last 2 years and everything China has ever made available to us. I don't advocate my previous use of AS to anyone but I've tried it all and too much and I'm looking to do the right amount for the right results at this point. It's been about 5-6 years since I've done anything so I believe my system is healed and will respond well.

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    back in the day I hear gh wasn't faked as much

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    Jintropin and ********** were as legit as Somatropin. You could get it a third the cost and run double the dose. Very effective. I've got the feet hands jaw and belly to prove it. Anyone able to help or comment on the cycle?

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    I really wouldn't start on that cycle.

    I would get blood work done and see what kind of test levels you have got then go down the route of getting TRT prescribed. Once you get this balanced then you could introduce a therapeutic dose of deca but from the sounds of it I really don't think your at a stage to start a cycle like that.

    There is no alternative to 100% hgh but with Jins and other companies selling fakes directly to the underground I would even chance buying anything from china. Most of it isn't real gh its other growth releasing peps at the best.

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    Thanks Marcus. My levels have been tested and are low. I was approved for TRT but couldn't afford it. I cycled for about a decade straight which explains my HPTA. Live and learn. This cycle is extremely mild compared to what I've done in the past. I expect great gains and no sides with it. GH isn't in the budget ATM so I'm gonna try the peptides and see how it goes.
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    So many people cookie cutter information and take it as a science in absolutes. We're not that good. We're all different with different requirements and therefore need to think outside the box or better yet, for ourselves when self prescribing these medications. Call them what you will but if it's good for an AIDS patient, it qualifies in my book and won't harm me used responsibly and in moderation any more than any other pharmaceutical prescription. Sh1t, Tylenol will kill ya faster than d-bol. I'll start my therapy, not cycle mind you, but therapy, with test deca and these peptides and possibly GH. I'll save tren and mast e for a few months down the line. Good read below:

    The human body heals itself by blood flow, nutrition, and circulation. Ligaments, tendons and joints have less efficient and abundant blood flow as compared to muscles. The human body being more than 70% water, operates in a fluid medium. That fluid is blood. Anabolic steroids affect your blood, they affect your healing, not just your muscles.

    I recently watched an episode of House M.D. Excellent show. However, in this particular episode, much of my respect was lost for this show. In this episode, a professional baseball player, a pitcher, breaks his humerus in half while throwing a baseball. He gets admitted to the hospital. The head character, Dr. House suspects that since his kidneys show stress on the athlete’s blood test, and this seemingly healthy athlete had his arm break in half, that the cause was “anabolic steroid abuse ”. I am not going to get into a philosophical battle over ignorance, but let me tell you, this is boffed basic endocrinology and physiology of bone, muscle and androgen 101. First of all, as we all know, abuse means reckless, inaccurate, disregard for the body, uncontrollable addiction…bla…bla…bla…The only thing we are addicted to is muscle and weights. Maybe some cables, a few machines and women with measurements that go 34DD-24-34. Oops, there I go again. Anyways here are the main physiological facts about anabolic steroids and your connective tissues:

    1. -stimulate bone mass accretion 2. -stimulate red blood cell production (erythropoesis) 3. -stimulate larger overall blood volume 4. -increase intra and extra cellular fluid volume 5. -some have anti- inflammatory affects

    Of the five main facts listed above, the point we are most interested in is number five. Ant-inflammatory properties. This would make the drugs coveted by finesse positions such as “pitching”. Now to be clear, use or “abuse” of corticosteroids could definitely weaken connective tissue including bone. But these two classifications of drugs are completely different. Actually, corticosteroids are the enemy for any hard working, hard lifting juice bag trying to grow massive. Actually just as important if you are dieting and trying not to lose muscle.

    Okay, the nandrolones (deca durabolin is a family member) and boldenone (equipoise ) are the two favorites with regard to healing soft tissue. Nandrolone has an excellent ability to decrease inflammation of ligaments, tendons and joint capsule structures. It is like being on a medium dose of naproxen sodium (Aleve) all day. The plus is that with nandrolone you get nitrogen retention which means accelerated healing of all tissue involving nitrogen, which means protein type tissues. Guess what ligaments and tendons are made out of-yup, protein, although specific forms of protein called proteoglycans and aminoglycans, and collagen of various types. Not quite as easily accessible as muscle tissue, but the nandrolone still helps. At the least much pain is caused by inflammation and ligaments/tendons being irritated by shear friction against another anatomical structure. Decreasing the inflammation is often a factor which decreases the friction between the inflamed tissue and whatever it is rubbing against, thereby decreasing pain. This is why you read so often that “deca decreases joint pain”. This is actually true in many cases and now you know the mechanism.

    Equipoise is also an excellent rehabilitative drug for soft tissue. Equipose is also one of the best anabolics for increasing blood volume and red blood cell production. Red blood cells carry oxygen and more blood volume means more blood flow to areas that don’t normally get much. Equipoise increased blood volume and oxygen in the blood thereby allowing an increased healing process to occur in the tissues. As with nandrolone you will also get a nice increase in nitrogen retention from the equipoise. This will speed total body healing. You didn’t think that this was the drug of choice for million dollar thoroughbred race horses because it made there joints hurt, did you? Oh, it makes their bones weak, that makes them faster, right? Don’t forget, steroids weaken bones-says society. Yeah right.

    I once had a friend break his arm while arm wrestling another meathead. They were both juiced up. My buddy lost and as his arm was being pulled down, he slipped towards the edge of the table and his forearm was temporarily pinned between the force of the opposing arm and the table. The other guy was only about 180lbs at five foot six. But he had nineteen inch arms and was a carpenter that worked with his hands who was also finely juiced at the time. My big Italian budd, we’ll call him-off the boat broke both his radius and ulna. Off the boat (not prejudice, just breaking stones, if it wasn’t for Italians, I probably wouldn’t have any best friends-I myself am a minority mut) was told by his very open minded physician who knew about his current cycle of GH, testosterone , and deca, to stay on all of it. Off the boat was ready to stop his cycle not knowing it would help him heal. The doctor knew-he was a sports medicine physician (but wait, athletes don’t do steroids, they’re tested right?). Less than six weeks later off the boat went to get an x ray…his arm was healed. Less than six weeks after breaking both major bones in his forearm, off the boat was able to get his cast removed because he was healed. Maybe it would have healed in only two weeks if he wasn’t using those bone-weakening steroids.

    Moral of the story-anabolic steroids accelerate body healing all over. Total body accelerated healing. Ligaments and tendons will still heal very slowly for the most part, they will only have a small increase in healing rate compared to muscle/bone, but they will still heal faster. The dosages needed for this purpose are lower than for sheer muscle building. Four hundred milligrams a week of either drug (deca or eq) should do the trick. It wouldn’t hurt to use some glucosamine and chondroiten during this time period as well. Ligaments and tendons do not heal without adequate vitamin C either. Make sure you take a supplemental form-around a gram per day with lots of water. If you have some growth hormone , even better, but we will reserve the specifics of growth for future growth of this web site. For now, we’ll stick with anabolics.

    There will be rehabilitative information on this site in the future. I have a friend who is a doctorate in physical therapy and my sports medicine degree should be able to help many of your injuries, aches and ailments.

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    Take a look at tb500, BPC 157 and a ghrp/ghrh stack. I see you already have some of the growth peptides in there already. These are going to cheaper to run for the expected results vs gh, which I have no idea where people would even procure worthwhile product now. If you have the budget, running these alongside your cycle would most likely work extremely well in a synergistic manner. Good luck!
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