Frozen Ipamorelin DOES NOT WORK

**Steroidman99** · 06-25-2015, 09:17 AM

Hello,

Three months ago I posted a thread about my cycle with Ipamorelin:
What can I expect from Ipamorelin?

I ordered 4 vials of Ipamorelin (5 mg) from a well known British site. I was skeptical at the beginning, but after ca. 10 days it started to work and the effect was amazing. Within mere 18 days I lost 1.9 kg fat (4.2 lbs) and gained 1.7 kg muscle (3,7 lbs). I also gained some strength (which was the most important thing for me).

However, after I finished the first vial, I put the remaining 3 vials into a freezer, because I had to travel abroad. It is recommended to put it into a freezer, because it can reportedly remain stable for several years.

After the return, three weeks later, I caught some cold with which I was fighting for another three weeks. So, after 6 weeks, I lost almost 4 kgs (9 lbs) of muscle and I hoped that I would regain it quickly during a new cycle with Ipamorelin.

But after 32 days (2 vials), my lean muscle mass decreased by 0.6 kg and my fat mass increased by 1.5 kg. My muscle volumes decreased as well and I still haven't returned on my initial level of strength (before the first Ipamorelin cycle). This is quite shocking. I ascribe the muscle loss to overtraining, because I increased the frequency of training units, hoping that Ipamorelin would easily help me with regeneration.

In any case, the FROZEN IPAMORELIN VIALS DO NOT WORK AT ALL. Have you had some similar experience?

I intend to order another two vials of Ipamorelin and one vial of Mod GRF 1-29. I won't freeze it and I will only put it into a refrigerator, because I want to spend it within 5 weeks.

**ghost14** · 07-13-2015, 04:47 PM

You used false assumption that bioimpedance scale give accurate readings of body fat and lean mass. Whereas it is completely false, they even don't show accurately relative change of body fat. I used to think that they at least show properly relative changes of body fat, but after some reading and personal experience it came untrue. My body fat according to very good and expansive scales may be one day at 15 when next 18, under different conditions.

Buy a set of calipers and judge by its reading at least. Anyway expecting that you may gain 1.7 kg of muscles in 18 days is complete nonsense.

**Steroidman99** · 07-14-2015, 03:38 PM

I must correct myself. I said "lean muscle mass", when I should say "lean body mass". There may be some inaccuracy, but I don't think that it would be large. I had the biggest muscle volumes in my life.

During the last weeks my lean body mass further decreased. I didn't believe the low numbers at first, but I got them repeatedly. My strength and body volumes continued to decrease as well. I have no doubt that this is due to overtraining. I trained too much, beliving that Ipamorelin will help me with regeneration. I had to stop this praxis and I have been going up with my strength again. One week ago, I also started to take a new batch of peptides. I take Ipamorelin (3x100 mg daily) and Mod GRF 1-29 (100 mg in the evening).

I will see, if it works. I should know it within several days.

**956Vette** · 07-15-2015, 01:32 PM

You're seriously misguided had you believe one vial of ipamorelin to have an amazing effect. Your outrageous headline is ridiculous as freezing your ghrp is n/a. Fyi, consider your chances of knowing it works in several days 1 in 1000. That said, good luck! We all cannot wait until the day you run rHGH

**Juced_porkchop** · 07-16-2015, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by Steroidman99

Hello,

Three months ago I posted a thread about my cycle with Ipamorelin:
What can I expect from Ipamorelin?

I ordered 4 vials of Ipamorelin (5 mg) from a well known British site. I was skeptical at the beginning, but after ca. 10 days it started to work and the effect was amazing. Within mere 18 days I lost 1.9 kg fat (4.2 lbs) and gained 1.7 kg muscle (3,7 lbs). I also gained some strength (which was the most important thing for me).

However, after I finished the first vial, I put the remaining 3 vials into a freezer, because I had to travel abroad. It is recommended to put it into a freezer, because it can reportedly remain stable for several years.

After the return, three weeks later, I caught some cold with which I was fighting for another three weeks. So, after 6 weeks, I lost almost 4 kgs (9 lbs) of muscle and I hoped that I would regain it quickly during a new cycle with Ipamorelin.

But after 32 days (2 vials), my lean muscle mass decreased by 0.6 kg and my fat mass increased by 1.5 kg. My muscle volumes decreased as well and I still haven't returned on my initial level of strength (before the first Ipamorelin cycle). This is quite shocking. I ascribe the muscle loss to overtraining, because I increased the frequency of training units, hoping that Ipamorelin would easily help me with regeneration.

In any case, the FROZEN IPAMORELIN VIALS DO NOT WORK AT ALL. Have you had some similar experience?

I intend to order another two vials of Ipamorelin and one vial of Mod GRF 1-29. I won't freeze it and I will only put it into a refrigerator, because I want to spend it within 5 weeks.

losing fat and gaining muscle are not the same thing and something to compaire to eachother...
BUT if you are going to store the peptides for a while make sure you have your freezers "freeze thaw" cycle turned off or in a freezer without one (usually the big ones) as i think it will prolong its life even more.
but 6 months or even a year is nothing in freezer... i think your expectations are a bit messed up and not the peptide tbh.

and peps are fine in fridge unmixed for months. if your going to keep it for a long time or possibly a long time i rec the freezer ofcourse.

**Steroidman99** · 07-17-2015, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by 956Vette

You're seriously misguided had you believe one vial of ipamorelin to have an amazing effect. Your outrageous headline is ridiculous as freezing your ghrp is n/a. Fyi, consider your chances of knowing it works in several days 1 in 1000. That said, good luck! We all cannot wait until the day you run rHGH

It started to work after ca. 8 days. I can be sure even without the bioimpedance numbers, because the performance in my bench press went up. And without an exogenous aid, I have been stagnating on bench press for many years.

It is quite irrelevant, what was your experience. In my case, those 18 days were incredible. You can say that bioimpedance is inaccurate, but when you see a clear trend after multiple measurements (body fat down, lean body mass up), then you can say that something is happening in your body. Furthermore, I was suddenly able to slep only 5-6 hours. I was waking up on my own after such a short time! Normally, I sleep for 8-10 hours.

Certainly, the vials that I was taking after my return from abroad were very different. They didn't work at all.

I will know the answer within several days. I have been taking new Ipamorelin again.

**tice1212** · 07-19-2015, 05:01 AM

Originally Posted by Steroidman99

I was skeptical at the beginning, but after ca. 10 days it started to work and the effect was amazing. Within mere 18 days I lost 1.9 kg fat (4.2 lbs) and gained 1.7 kg muscle (3,7 lbs). I also gained some strength (which was the most important thing for me)..
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Bahahahahahaha I don't mean any disrespect but come bro! Even if I run tren & test @ 1gram EW I won't see this kind of results. It's a peptide ghrp-2 has a better response to the GH then Ipamorelin its all in ur head trust me. This shit is not happening. Sorry

**NACH3** · 07-19-2015, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by 956Vette

You're seriously misguided had you believe one vial of ipamorelin to have an amazing effect. Your outrageous headline is ridiculous as freezing your ghrp is n/a. Fyi, consider your chances of knowing it works in several days 1 in 1000. That said, good luck! We all cannot wait until the day you run rHGH

Just look at his posts - he runs oral only cycles and swears by them - even tho he argues the suppression and shut down rate of orals - furthermore, he admitted to a var only cycle - w/a 90% suppression rating(w/no test) and gains of 2mm(yes that's millimeters) on his cycle for arms! No other gains were noted!

Also, what your referring to is called a placebo effect!

**ghost14** · 07-26-2015, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Steroidman99

It started to work after ca. 8 days. I can be sure even without the bioimpedance numbers, because the performance in my bench press went up. And without an exogenous aid, I have been stagnating on bench press for many years.

It is quite irrelevant, what was your experience. In my case, those 18 days were incredible. You can say that bioimpedance is inaccurate, but when you see a clear trend after multiple measurements (body fat down, lean body mass up), then you can say that something is happening in your body. Furthermore, I was suddenly able to slep only 5-6 hours. I was waking up on my own after such a short time! Normally, I sleep for 8-10 hours.

Certainly, the vials that I was taking after my return from abroad were very different. They didn't work at all.

I will know the answer within several days. I have been taking new Ipamorelin again.

There are peer reviewed research papers on effects of Ipamorelin. They use pharm grade substances, dexa scan for estimating fat and lean body mass and none of them reported such results. If such strong substance existed every might become Mr Olympia in 6-12 months, without steroids etc. Nonsence. And none looses 4 kg of muscles in 6 weeks. Maybe your muscles were filled with water and you lost water.

Anyway I used peptides from the same source as yours and I did not noticed difference between frozen and unfrozen vials. I only feel them stronger after some break, eg after a week of not pinning the first few pins are with very noticeable side effects but then they diminish.

**ghost14** · 07-26-2015, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by Steroidman99

It started to work after ca. 8 days. I can be sure even without the bioimpedance numbers, because the performance in my bench press went up. And without an exogenous aid, I have been stagnating on bench press for many years.

It is quite irrelevant, what was your experience. In my case, those 18 days were incredible. You can say that bioimpedance is inaccurate, but when you see a clear trend after multiple measurements (body fat down, lean body mass up), then you can say that something is happening in your body. Furthermore, I was suddenly able to slep only 5-6 hours. I was waking up on my own after such a short time! Normally, I sleep for 8-10 hours.

Certainly, the vials that I was taking after my return from abroad were very different. They didn't work at all.

I will know the answer within several days. I have been taking new Ipamorelin again.

There are peer reviewed research papers on effects of Ipamorelin. They use pharm grade substances, dexa scan for estimating fat and lean body mass and none of them reported such results. If such strong substance existed every one might become Mr Olympia in 6-12 months, without steroids etc. Nonsence. And none looses 4 kg of muscles in 6 weeks. Maybe your muscles were filled with water and you lost water.

Anyway I used peptides from the same source as yours and I did not noticed difference between frozen and unfrozen vials. I only feel them stronger after some break, eg after a week of not pinning the first few pins are with very noticeable side effects but then they diminish.

**Steroidman99** · 08-09-2015, 04:59 PM

So, after 24 days (Ipamorelin: 3x100 mg daily and Mod GRF 1-29: 100 mg in the evening), I can say that:

1/ I lost -0.3 kg fat

2/ I gained +1.1 kg muscle

3/ These results were more modest than during the 1st cycle and my body composition is still deeply below the level after the 1st cycle (-3.1 kg muscle, +1.1 kg fat), but performances on most exercises are better, so I don't care so much.

4/ I experienced annoying acne during the cycle. In fact, even my doctor remarked it. Although I can't be 100% sure that it was caused by the peptides, I must suppose that the combination of Ipamorelin and Mod GRF 1-29 messes up my hormones. Since I observed no benefit from the addition of Mod GRF 1-29, I won't take it anymore.

In any case, this result supports my suspicion that the frozen vials of Ipamorelin were ineffective. I could attribute the muscle loss (-0.6 kg) to overtraining, but the fact that I gained 1.5 kg fat during the 32 days is simply ridiculous and it strongly suggests that it did not work at all.

With regard to the modest results, I want to start a new cycle soon, but to be honest, I still have no clear idea about long-term side effects. The peptides didn't influence my cholesterol, glucose and liver enzymes, but I didn't test hormonal changes such as testosterone or insulin . The occurence of acne is especially disturbing, because I decided to take peptides because of their proposed zero effect on sex hormones and hence a zero danger of hair loss.

**Steroidman99** · 08-09-2015, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by NACH3

Just look at his posts - he runs oral only cycles and swears by them - even tho he argues the suppression and shut down rate of orals - furthermore, he admitted to a var only cycle - w/a 90% suppression rating(w/no test) and gains of 2mm(yes that's millimeters) on his cycle for arms! No other gains were noted!

Also, what your referring to is called a placebo effect!

Electronic devices don't believe in the placebo effect.