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    Hgh for fat loss

    Hello all.

    My clinic offers hgh. I know from reading most agree that 6 months is needed for effects. My question's are as follows.

    1. How many iu''s are needed per day for fat loss? I've seen 1-2 and 3-4 ranges.

    2. What are typically fat loss percentage's ?

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    Go to Wal-Mart and buy a 3 dollar bottle of caffeine and 17 dollars for bronkaid, way more effective than HGH for fat loss. Arginine too

    If you're hellbent on gh use GHRP

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    I'm not sure why people always said you need to wait months for fat loss on hgh. probably because they were using fake chinese stuff. if you're getting legit stuff from a pharmacy, you'll see fat loss by week 4 at 4 IU's a day, 5 on 2 off, especially with diet and cardio. I had my best abs on Tev Tropin hgh and I didn't diet or do cardio.
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    HGH works great for fat loss in my experience. Really noticable effects within 3 months without changing my diet or workout much when I first started it at 4-6iu a day 7 days a week. Since upping that dose and changing my diet, as well as dosing HGH along with a few other things before doing fasted cardio in the morning, the fat loss has really progressed and been much more noticable on a bi-weekly basis it seems.

    If you have the money I highly reccommend running it year round. If you dont and just want fat loss then there are much better options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-dogg View Post
    Hello all.

    My clinic offers hgh. I know from reading most agree that 6 months is needed for effects. My question's are as follows.

    1. How many iu''s are needed per day for fat loss? I've seen 1-2 and 3-4 ranges.

    2. What are typically fat loss percentage's ?
    If your clinic is in the states then it is a semorellin or a semorelin/GHRH combo, HGH is illegal unles you have a very extreme medical condition and the prescriber would lose their license and go to jail, perhaps the pharmacist also.
    Yes, HGH, semorellin or a semorelin/GHRH combo works great for fat loss.

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    what are you talking about??
    this is not true, GH is great for fatloss and there in my opinion GH is the most fat burning agent there is. i know t3 is great yes, but i have done this with t3 with t3 and GH with GH alone, and GH is winner (ofcourse you can add t3 for extra fatburning effects).

    and another thing that GH do and no other thing can do, is local fat reduction. which is awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SOL!D5NAK3 View Post
    what are you talking about??
    this is not true, GH is great for fatloss and there in my opinion GH is the most fat burning agent there is. i know t3 is great yes, but i have done this with t3 with t3 and GH with GH alone, and GH is winner (ofcourse you can add t3 for extra fatburning effects).

    and another thing that GH do and no other thing can do, is local fat reduction. which is awesome.
    The injectable superdrol I used had extraordinary local fat loss effects. Shit was better than anything ive ever used

    But IMO you are being inefficient if you are trying to lose fat withour EC stack. It is one of the rare things that always works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlesticks View Post
    The injectable superdrol I used had extraordinary local fat loss effects. Shit was better than anything ive ever used

    But IMO you are being inefficient if you are trying to lose fat withour EC stack. It is one of the rare things that always works.
    Can you go into more detail please?

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    Its all about what you put in your mouth, period. Drugs like HGH, DNP , T3, ECG, etc are all helpful but if you can't control calorie intake vs cal burn you will not get where you want to be. Disipline is the key. There is no magic drug for weight loss, peroid!
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-dogg View Post
    Can you go into more detail please?
    I had a theory people were using FAR more superdrol than needed and theorized it could be dosed akin to methyltren , e.g 10-500mcg doses and be effective.

    I was god damn right. Double digit mcg amounts of superdrol injected completely unbelievably peeled fat off of me more than any aas ever did, it was pretty mindblowing. This method also significantly reduces toxicity to negligible amounts. DNP may boost actual metabolic rate more but for me the spot injected sdrol is the best tool for fat loss, it's absolutely nuts. It's toxic as fuck when taken orally in higher doses and doesnt give better results ime.

    Funny people will inject 100mg of tren a day for very inferior results to 1/1000th the amount of sdrol. The people who use this drug and don't get results either take way too much, have fake shit or are doing something very very wrong because real superdrol in my experience is the best compound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-dogg View Post
    Hello all.

    My clinic offers hgh. I know from reading most agree that 6 months is needed for effects. My question's are as follows.

    1. How many iu''s are needed per day for fat loss? I've seen 1-2 and 3-4 ranges.

    2. What are typically fat loss percentage's ?
    I've been on scripted 3IU of Nutropin for a little while now. It does help with Fat loss but dollar for dollar there are better options if the only objective from HGH is fat loss.

    Your second question is impossible to answer - there are 101 variables.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlesticks View Post
    I had a theory people were using FAR more superdrol than needed and theorized it could be dosed akin to methyltren , e.g 10-500mcg doses and be effective.

    I was god damn right. Double digit mcg amounts of superdrol injected completely unbelievably peeled fat off of me more than any aas ever did, it was pretty mindblowing. This method also significantly reduces toxicity to negligible amounts. DNP may boost actual metabolic rate more but for me the spot injected sdrol is the best tool for fat loss, it's absolutely nuts. It's toxic as fuck when taken orally in higher doses and doesnt give better results ime.

    Funny people will inject 100mg of tren a day for very inferior results to 1/1000th the amount of sdrol. The people who use this drug and don't get results either take way too much, have fake shit or are doing something very very wrong because real superdrol in my experience is the best compound.
    Fiddle, you gotta be a hyper metabolizer or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    Fiddle, you gotta be a hyper metabolizer or something.
    I've talked to multiple pros and other relevant people who agree with that sentiment entirely, mainly when injected. It has some unique properties that no other steroid possesses, these properties are really only seen with injection. Development of the compound was not even meant to be an AAS but an anti tumor drug, definitely some very strong cell division-type effects (compared to other aas) for certain.

    Essentially, adding in even a tiny dose of 100mcg injected SD a day will significantly improve a cycle more than anything else can really. It was a huge error to ever suggest the doses of 5-30mg orally and I feel it would be FAR more popular if it was dosed at those much smaller injected doses. With all the praise I give it, it absolutely will fuck you up at those stupid doses, very very severely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlesticks View Post
    I had a theory people were using FAR more superdrol than needed and theorized it could be dosed akin to methyltren , e.g 10-500mcg doses and be effective.

    I was god damn right. Double digit mcg amounts of superdrol injected completely unbelievably peeled fat off of me more than any aas ever did, it was pretty mindblowing. This method also significantly reduces toxicity to negligible amounts. DNP may boost actual metabolic rate more but for me the spot injected sdrol is the best tool for fat loss, it's absolutely nuts. It's toxic as fuck when taken orally in higher doses and doesnt give better results ime.

    Funny people will inject 100mg of tren a day for very inferior results to 1/1000th the amount of sdrol. The people who use this drug and don't get results either take way too much, have fake shit or are doing something very very wrong because real superdrol in my experience is the best compound.
    Thanks. So even 100mgs of superdrol works wonders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    I've been on scripted 3IU of Nutropin for a little while now. It does help with Fat loss but dollar for dollar there are better options if the only objective from HGH is fat loss.

    Your second question is impossible to answer - there are 101 variables.
    What do you thinks works better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-dogg View Post
    What do you thinks works better?
    It's not so much that there's "better" or "worse" options moreso that you aren't getting a good fat loss to dollar spent ratio.

    For example, I pay 250CAD (200USD) for a 15IU pen of Nutropin. That's $50/day for 3IU HGH. In 3 days I would have spent $150 versus buying 2 x 10mL vials of Tren E at 200mg/mL. 4000mg of Tren goes a lot farther than 9IU of HGH specifically for fat loss if you factor everything else out.

    Another example would be the amount of T3/Clen /ECA you could buy for the same price as 1 Nutropin Pen.

    Now, if you wanted to take it for the other benefits of GH that could be applicable to you, and you dont have to pay an arm and a leg then by all means add it your your regiment. Trying to compare apples to apples though isn't very favourable for the dollar spent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    It's not so much that there's "better" or "worse" options moreso that you aren't getting a good fat loss to dollar spent ratio.

    For example, I pay 250CAD (200USD) for a 15IU pen of Nutropin. That's $50/day for 3IU HGH. In 3 days I would have spent $150 versus buying 2 x 10mL vials of Tren E at 200mg/mL. 4000mg of Tren goes a lot farther than 9IU of HGH specifically for fat loss if you factor everything else out.

    Another example would be the amount of T3/Clen /ECA you could buy for the same price as 1 Nutropin Pen.

    Now, if you wanted to take it for the other benefits of GH that could be applicable to you, and you dont have to pay an arm and a leg then by all means add it your your regiment. Trying to compare apples to apples though isn't very favourable for the dollar spent.
    Windex, Iím just now going beyond TRT, sorry if this question is not phrased correctly. Do you personally feel that hgh that is not pharm grade (letís say about $200 per vial, from a reputable lab) is not worth it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    It's not so much that there's "better" or "worse" options moreso that you aren't getting a good fat loss to dollar spent ratio.

    For example, I pay 250CAD (200USD) for a 15IU pen of Nutropin. That's $50/day for 3IU HGH. In 3 days I would have spent $150 versus buying 2 x 10mL vials of Tren E at 200mg/mL. 4000mg of Tren goes a lot farther than 9IU of HGH specifically for fat loss if you factor everything else out.
    Omg, that's so freaking expensive!
    I remember such things being expensive back in Canada but I honestly kind of forgot since I moved to work here in Dubai.
    I can get Genotropin, 36iu pen for USD $100-120 here depending on the source

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-dogg View Post
    Thanks. So even 100mgs of superdrol works wonders?
    Jesus I might have just saved someone's liver.

    100 MICROGRAMS. 1000 micrograms is a milligram lol. If you did 100 mg superdrol you would have a bad bad bad time.

    from what my group of people have seen it practically always works under every circumstance, the gains really don't even slow down. If enough calories are consumed the gains are not comparable to any other aas. It's results will be limited by the user's ability to eat tremendous amounts of food. a conclusion one could make from this is that whatever anabolic actions it is exerting are in a completely different realm compared to traditional aas and it probably is working via mechanisms the other compounds don't interact with at all, it's pretty clear that is the case when people on 5G+ cycles immediately start getting incredibly quick results adding in that .1mg sd dose. it would be very interesting to add maybe a 10mcg dose to a trt regimen and see what happens.

    something else that's very interesting is that it absolutely can absorb through the skin. you can apply it to say biceps and should notice a very significant difference when they are worked. personally I have done this in doses probably 10-30mcg and it works more than any amount of test I've been on ever did. more than any amount of any aas and I've used all outside of ment methyltren and dimethyltren.

    I did not even want to make this info public tbh but too late now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlesticks View Post
    Jesus I might have just saved someone's liver.

    100 MICROGRAMS. 1000 micrograms is a milligram lol. If you did 100 mg superdrol you would have a bad bad bad time.

    from what my group of people have seen it practically always works under every circumstance, the gains really don't even slow down. If enough calories are consumed the gains are not comparable to any other aas. It's results will be limited by the user's ability to eat tremendous amounts of food. a conclusion one could make from this is that whatever anabolic actions it is exerting are in a completely different realm compared to traditional aas and it probably is working via mechanisms the other compounds don't interact with at all, it's pretty clear that is the case when people on 5G+ cycles immediately start getting incredibly quick results adding in that .1mg sd dose. it would be very interesting to add maybe a 10mcg dose to a trt regimen and see what happens.

    something else that's very interesting is that it absolutely can absorb through the skin. you can apply it to say biceps and should notice a very significant difference when they are worked. personally I have done this in doses probably 10-30mcg and it works more than any amount of test I've been on ever did. more than any amount of any aas and I've used all outside of ment methyltren and dimethyltren.

    I did not even want to make this info public tbh but too late now.
    Do you feel there is a “relatively safe” oral dosage dose of SD? TY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlesticks View Post
    Jesus I might have just saved someone's liver.

    100 MICROGRAMS. 1000 micrograms is a milligram lol. If you did 100 mg superdrol you would have a bad bad bad time.

    from what my group of people have seen it practically always works under every circumstance, the gains really don't even slow down. If enough calories are consumed the gains are not comparable to any other aas. It's results will be limited by the user's ability to eat tremendous amounts of food. a conclusion one could make from this is that whatever anabolic actions it is exerting are in a completely different realm compared to traditional aas and it probably is working via mechanisms the other compounds don't interact with at all, it's pretty clear that is the case when people on 5G+ cycles immediately start getting incredibly quick results adding in that .1mg sd dose. it would be very interesting to add maybe a 10mcg dose to a trt regimen and see what happens.

    something else that's very interesting is that it absolutely can absorb through the skin. you can apply it to say biceps and should notice a very significant difference when they are worked. personally I have done this in doses probably 10-30mcg and it works more than any amount of test I've been on ever did. more than any amount of any aas and I've used all outside of ment methyltren and dimethyltren.

    I did not even want to make this info public tbh but too late now.

    Wanted to clarify lol. Normally I see 10-30mgs a day for superdrol.



    So you feel superdrol cuts body fat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post
    Windex, Iím just now going beyond TRT, sorry if this question is not phrased correctly. Do you personally feel that hgh that is not pharm grade (letís say about $200 per vial, from a reputable lab) is not worth it?
    I think HGH has tons of benefits and it's the icing on the cake, swiss army knife of compounds. It's does a little bit of everything - but isn't the best at any one particular thing. There's still a lot to learn about it as well.


    If you had asked me if HGH can be used to treat chronic back pain 2 years ago I would've thought you were a quack. yet here I am using a fraction of narcotics after being on HGH since late summer / fall.

    I had specifically illustrated the pharma example because T-Dogg mentioned a clinic so i assumed the clinic would provide a prescription. I have little experience on the generic HgH front but IGF1 levels are a good place to look for authenticity. If the lab stands behind their product and challenges you to get bloodwork to prove they are legit it could be a winner.

    If there's a few benefits to check off from using it then I think it's worth it. But to use it only for one single niche purpose I find is expensive. However, if money is no obstacle then may as well add it on to the stackerino.

    Hopefully that clarifies it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    I think HGH has tons of benefits and it's the icing on the cake, swiss army knife of compounds. It's does a little bit of everything - but isn't the best at any one particular thing. There's still a lot to learn about it as well.


    If you had asked me if HGH can be used to treat chronic back pain 2 years ago I would've thought you were a quack. yet here I am using a fraction of narcotics after being on HGH since late summer / fall.

    I had specifically illustrated the pharma example because T-Dogg mentioned a clinic so i assumed the clinic would provide a prescription. I have little experience on the generic HgH front but IGF1 levels are a good place to look for authenticity. If the lab stands behind their product and challenges you to get bloodwork to prove they are legit it could be a winner.

    If there's a few benefits to check off from using it then I think it's worth it. But to use it only for one single niche purpose I find is expensive. However, if money is no obstacle then may as well add it on to the stackerino.

    Hopefully that clarifies it.
    TY very much, that helps a great deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-dogg View Post
    Wanted to clarify lol. Normally I see 10-30mgs a day for superdrol.



    So you feel superdrol cuts body fat?
    It is quite a massive understatement to say superdrol cuts fat. Personally I have taken every common AAS outside of those 3 mentioned and if they even assist in fat burning to any serious amount I don't know because the sd is so intensely good at it there is no comparison. It works far better than even injectable clen does for me. In all fairness tren suspension modestly helped, maybe like 35% as much i guess. No other drug I have used has such an aggressive constant fat loss effect. The other big composition benefit of superdrol is pretty obvious in that it is extraordinarily anabolic and if calories are adequate will grow muscle amazingly well.

    The 10-30mg a day dosing protocol is why this drug has the toxic rep that it does, this is VERY VERY unnecessary and just causes tons of problems. Not sure why I was apparently the first to try it but the drug is very effective at double digit mcg doses and will much more likely give better results because the toxicity is negligible while the high oral dose toxicity is extremely significant and honestly can seriously harm you not to mention result in poorer gains.

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    Fiddle, would you please answer my question about the oral SD usage, it was sincere, TY!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post
    Fiddle, would you please answer my question about the oral SD usage, it was sincere, TY!
    Sorry i honestly didn't see that.

    this is what i see, orally the bioav of superdrol is WAY less than the quoted 50%, if i am gonna take a guess I would say maybe 3 or 2% going by how little is required with injection.. HOWEVER, the TOXICITY is not changed and in fact per same dose far more toxic orally as would be the case w all compounds. You're honestly insane taking this orally. Do not be fooled by me praising the injected form because amazing as that is, the oral is essentially the polar opposite. fo real. Personally from ONE 5MG DOSE i had neuropathy for a week. Fucking ridiculous that people take twice or even more at once. Bless their livers.

    Bluntly put, it's terrible and possibly the most dangerous AAS at typical oral doses but injected it is a totally diff story. If you value your day I wouldn't orally take more than 1.5mg at once and that's gonna cause problems. Just inject it.

    In theory because it's so absurdly effective it absolutely would have some effects at a 100-300mcg oral dose with minimal sides. There is 0 benefit of doing this outside of some ... Potential IGF boosting liver thing people talk about but compared to injection it's way way way weaker. Personally I hypothesize this drug acts on certain pathways the other aas either have no interaction with or very little because it can be added to an already heavy cycle and very strong results can ensue. This stuff injected is honestly dumb how effective it is. I do not want it to catch on because it will make this whole thing alot more boring. lets just.. Keep it on the down low.

    If having stinging sensations all over sounds good go ahead and orally take anything above .5mg at once lol. Literally just add 50mcg sd injections to any cycle for any reason and it will significantly enhance results more than anything else. People really make me confused because 99.9 percent of the time a 50mcg sdrol dose and some more calories will give them 100x the results of their current stupid cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlesticks View Post
    Sorry i honestly didn't see that.

    this is what i see, orally the bioav of superdrol is WAY less than the quoted 50%, if i am gonna take a guess I would say maybe 3 or 2% going by how little is required with injection.. HOWEVER, the TOXICITY is not changed and in fact per same dose far more toxic orally as would be the case w all compounds. You're honestly insane taking this orally. Do not be fooled by me praising the injected form because amazing as that is, the oral is essentially the polar opposite. fo real. Personally from ONE 5MG DOSE i had neuropathy for a week. Fucking ridiculous that people take twice or even more at once. Bless their livers.

    Bluntly put, it's terrible and possibly the most dangerous AAS at typical oral doses but injected it is a totally diff story. If you value your day I wouldn't orally take more than 1.5mg at once and that's gonna cause problems. Just inject it.

    In theory because it's so absurdly effective it absolutely would have some effects at a 100-300mcg oral dose with minimal sides. There is 0 benefit of doing this outside of some ... Potential IGF boosting liver thing people talk about but compared to injection it's way way way weaker. Personally I hypothesize this drug acts on certain pathways the other aas either have no interaction with or very little because it can be added to an already heavy cycle and very strong results can ensue. This stuff injected is honestly dumb how effective it is. I do not want it to catch on because it will make this whole thing alot more boring. lets just.. Keep it on the down low.

    If having stinging sensations all over sounds good go ahead and orally take anything above .5mg at once lol. Literally just add 50mcg sd injections to any cycle for any reason and it will significantly enhance results more than anything else. People really make me confused because 99.9 percent of the time a 50mcg sdrol dose and some more calories will give them 100x the results of their current stupid cycle.
    TY buddy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post
    TY buddy.
    If I posted the results I got recently (and still getting) from taking like 50-100mcg sdrol a day w test while eating a metric f-ton of cals I would prob be called a liar , troll something of that nature lol. The things that ARE possible are FAR greater than what is commonly said on the internet. just gotta get the calories down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlesticks View Post
    Go to Wal-Mart and buy a 3 dollar bottle of caffeine and 17 dollars for bronkaid, way more effective than HGH for fat loss. Arginine too

    If you're hellbent on gh use GHRP
    You have obviously never used real HGH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashop View Post
    You have obviously never used real HGH.
    Ive not only used real gh I've used basically every gh releasing thing ever. For an avg person ephedrine will likely outdo every other fat burner from the appetite suppression i think. Personally I find GH to have hypo effects v often which fucking sucks.

    IME T3 is far better than GH, T3 on its own stimulates GH production as well. GH worst bodybuilding drug per dollar for certain.
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    Do you think superdol is better for cutting then anavar or winny?

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-dogg View Post
    Do you think superdol is better for cutting then anavar or winny?
    Different effects but in my experience those 2 can also be pretty fucking toxic if you screw them up as well so being safer isnt really even a benefit lol. The answer is a resounding "fuck yes".

    I have lost bodyfat eating 5 digit cals on it and honestly that is what I expect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlesticks View Post
    Ive not only used real gh I've used basically every gh releasing thing ever. For an avg person ephedrine will likely outdo every other fat burner from the appetite suppression i think. Personally I find GH to have hypo effects v often which fucking sucks.

    IME T3 is far better than GH, T3 on its own stimulates GH production as well. GH worst bodybuilding drug per dollar for certain.
    I have to disagree. Personally I have never went hypo on HGH ( I have with IGF1 LR3) I don't like things like ephedrine due to the stimulant effect which gets me too wired and jittery. I use pharm grade HGH on a daily basis and I have never been leaner and tighter. With all the said I hade ice cream and cake last night and still woke up with abs this morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashop View Post
    I have to disagree. Personally I have never went hypo on HGH ( I have with IGF1 LR3) I don't like things like ephedrine due to the stimulant effect which gets me too wired and jittery. I use pharm grade HGH on a daily basis and I have never been leaner and tighter. With all the said I hade ice cream and cake last night and still woke up with abs this morning.
    For the avg person their problem usually isn't metabolism but rather the mental aspect. Ephedrine or even better amphetamines work quite well in that area. Personally I didn't notice any mood effects from GH. T3 on the other hand for me has some mood enhancing aspect.

    Not saying an avg person should use ephedrine or amph for fat loss but man does it make it effortless. Makes me realize how futile and hard fat loss is without those dopamine/ other fun chemicals naturally being released in your life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlesticks View Post
    For the avg person their problem usually isn't metabolism but rather the mental aspect. Ephedrine or even better amphetamines work quite well in that area. Personally I didn't notice any mood effects from GH. T3 on the other hand for me has some mood enhancing aspect.

    Not saying an avg person should use ephedrine or amph for fat loss but man does it make it effortless. Makes me realize how futile and hard fat loss is without those dopamine/ other fun chemicals naturally being released in your life.
    We shall see what gw501516 does for fat. I'll have it soon and log it.

    I'll be running 175mg test, 600 primo per week and 40mg var and 20mg get daily.

    20mg DIM. TUDCA and NAC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    We shall see what gw501516 does for fat. I'll have it soon and log it.

    I'll be running 175mg test, 600 primo per week and 40mg var and 20mg get daily.

    20mg DIM. TUDCA and NAC
    20Mg get ?

    I've heard it's supposed to increase your metabolism and v02max alot. Probably ridiculously synergistic with EC

    Maybe it can act like clen that doesn't make you want to jump off a bridge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlesticks View Post
    For the avg person their problem usually isn't metabolism but rather the mental aspect. Ephedrine or even better amphetamines work quite well in that area. Personally I didn't notice any mood effects from GH. T3 on the other hand for me has some mood enhancing aspect.

    Not saying an avg person should use ephedrine or amph for fat loss but man does it make it effortless. Makes me realize how futile and hard fat loss is without those dopamine/ other fun chemicals naturally being released in your life.
    Even when I used things like CLENBUTEROL , EPHEDRINE I always had stubborn fat in my abs and love handles. With HGH that problem has disappeared and I'm tighter and leaner than I ever have been. I use no stimulants at all. Myself speaking HGH has been a major game changer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlesticks View Post
    20Mg get ?

    I've heard it's supposed to increase your metabolism and v02max alot. Probably ridiculously synergistic with EC

    Maybe it can act like clen that doesn't make you want to jump off a bridge.
    DIM aromatase inhibitor derive from broccoli

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashop View Post
    Even when I used things like CLENBUTEROL, EPHEDRINE I always had stubborn fat in my abs and love handles. With HGH that problem has disappeared and I'm tighter and leaner than I ever have been. I use no stimulants at all. Myself speaking HGH has been a major game changer.
    Have you used T3 before? For me T3 does everything GH does but better without the chance of hypo. Can be injected for spot fat loss really well too. T3 very underrated I say. Very good mental benefits for me at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlesticks View Post
    Have you used T3 before? For me T3 does everything GH does but better without the chance of hypo. Can be injected for spot fat loss really well too. T3 very underrated I say. Very good mental benefits for me at least.
    I have used T3 but always felt I lost muscle and it made look flat. We all have our opinions and preferences. HGH makes my skin, nails, hair look better. I sleep way better. I recover quicker and injuries heal faster. My physique has a lean tight, 3D appearance. I've personally not seen those things with T3.

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