Calf injuries @Q#!@ impossible to rehab i believe

**Godson** · 09-05-2007, 12:31 PM

I had surgery on my ankles when i was 3 years old...Ever since then the range of motion in my calves are completely limited..there's no pain really in my ankles, i can walk leap jog and run, however i cannot do calf raises
which poses a huge problem, how else can you work out your calves if you can't do calf raises ????

i don't believe there is an alternative workout or approach for me to take, but i'd figured i'd give it a try a post about it.. people tell me to do calf raises to the best of my ability, but it's simply not an option

would anabolic 's even be able to assist an undeveloped muscle like this even since if i take it i wouldn't be able to perform the exercise i need to do to focus on this muscle??

***Doc.Sust*** · 09-05-2007, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by Godson

I had surgery on my ankles when i was 3 years old...Ever since then the range of motion in my calves are completely limited..there's no pain really in my ankles, i can walk leap jog and run, however i cannot do calf raises
which poses a huge problem, how else can you work out your calves if you can't do calf raises ????

i don't believe there is an alternative workout or approach for me to take, but i'd figured i'd give it a try a post about it.. people tell me to do calf raises to the best of my ability, but it's simply not an option

would anabolic's even be able to assist an undeveloped muscle like this even since if i take it i wouldn't be able to perform the exercise i need to do to focus on this muscle??

anabolics wont help unless you can work the muscle, try jump rope and sprints, that will do it

**DSM4Life** · 09-05-2007, 03:17 PM

If its going to turn into a possible injury dont work them. You think its bad now ? wait till you pull your muscle and can't do standing movements.

Like said above, you can jog so just stick with that.

**Godson** · 09-06-2007, 01:44 AM

jump ropes i can do....you really think it will show improvement ??
with jogging and running ive seen zero improvement, its weird

**DSM4Life** · 09-06-2007, 04:32 AM

With what you told us i don't think you have no choice in the matter. Jumping rope is fine, its something.

**Godson** · 09-06-2007, 01:22 PM

you have ever taken like a two week absent from lifting...then after the 14 days come back and notice a decrease in strength ?? like sorta of a big one

**DSM4Life** · 09-06-2007, 04:09 PM

2 week isnt that long but after a long period of time away yes, i do get that. After a week or so i am right back to where i started.

**Godson** · 09-06-2007, 11:16 PM

thanks i posted this, on another thread...curious if you can give me a real opinion here

i have a question.....for my chest routine ...my stats 5'6 155lbs 13.5% bf
i like to start out with a warm up set on FLAT BENCH
then
1st do 175 - 10
2nd 185 - 8
3rd 195- 6
4th 205-4

now depending on when i work out , what i ate, or even if i took a couple days off ... im not able to reach those numbers ...for example
if i do 1st set for 10..
then 2nd for 6 ....
what should i do with my 3rd set ??? not move up weight, move up 5 pounds ?? i want to improve strength...!!
and i have no idea what to do when i can't reach 8 reps on that 2nd set ??

**Godson** · 09-06-2007, 11:17 PM

i got negative feedback, people just sayin " read up on your routine, sounds like you dunno anything"
i mean i don't post for people to tell me to go read somewhere else, whats the point in that..im just wondering should i still increase the weight in the 3rd set , when i couldnt even reach the number i wanted to in the 2nd set

**DSM4Life** · 09-07-2007, 04:37 AM

Why not try this

Warm up
1nd 185x4
2nd 195x4
3rd 205x4
(You might even want to cut out the 1st set and move right into the 195 for working sets.)

Then when you can do that add more weight next week and so on.

Most people "warm up" too much.

**dwaynewade** · 09-07-2007, 07:56 AM

try any vert program...

basketball/track workout... alot of plyometrics

***Doc.Sust*** · 09-07-2007, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by Godson

jump ropes i can do....you really think it will show improvement ??
with jogging and running ive seen zero improvement, its weird

i know so, my calves are living proof. it works

***Doc.Sust*** · 09-07-2007, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by dwaynewade

try any vert program...

basketball/track workout... alot of plyometrics

plyometrcis are huge for calf and leg development. the vertical leap shoes really did me good as a kid when i used to train for B-ball. made my legs alot stronger.

***Doc.Sust*** · 09-07-2007, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by Godson

jump ropes i can do....you really think it will show improvement ??
with jogging and running ive seen zero improvement, its weird

dont run for distance, do multiple sprints and plyo movements if you want to see your calves grow

***Doc.Sust*** · 09-07-2007, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by Godson

i got negative feedback, people just sayin " read up on your routine, sounds like you dunno anything"
i mean i don't post for people to tell me to go read somewhere else, whats the point in that..im just wondering should i still increase the weight in the 3rd set , when i couldnt even reach the number i wanted to in the 2nd set

i told you in the other thread, this routine for strength is crap, you are doing the same shite wk after wk, it is no wonder you arent making gains. go to the powerlifting forum, look at the kenelly press routine, read it and ask me questions, you need to stop training the way you are if you want to be stronger, what you are doing is treading water, you wont get anywhere doing what you are doing

**taiboxa** · 09-07-2007, 09:56 AM

jumprope gave me uber calves.. of course.. we did then barefoot on concrete so u really focus on a soft landing putting some major tension on the eccentric motion.

**Godson** · 09-07-2007, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by Doc.Sust

i told you in the other thread, this routine for strength is crap, you are doing the same shite wk after wk, it is no wonder you arent making gains. go to the powerlifting forum, look at the kenelly press routine, read it and ask me questions, you need to stop training the way you are if you want to be stronger, what you are doing is treading water, you wont get anywhere doing what you are doing

thanks for the calf advice, but correction ... when i firsted started lifting my max was 125... now its 225, of course i increase the weight week by week, i was just using those weights for an example... and i did read about your chest routine you posted and have a question, i perfer to do incline decline and flys after flat...
do you recommend that after i do that routine i go to incline decline and flys ??

***Doc.Sust*** · 09-10-2007, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by Godson

thanks for the calf advice, but correction ... when i firsted started lifting my max was 125... now its 225, of course i increase the weight week by week, i was just using those weights for an example... and i did read about your chest routine you posted and have a question, i perfer to do incline decline and flys after flat...
do you recommend that after i do that routine i go to incline decline and flys ??

no i dont recomend any of those movements for strength except decline. flys are a total waste for strength and incline works more shoulders than chest. for strength the movements you want are board presses, close grip presses, rack lockouts, speed presses with or without bands or chains if your gym has these, but i doubt it does have them.

***Doc.Sust*** · 09-10-2007, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by Godson

thanks for the calf advice, but correction ... when i firsted started lifting my max was 125... now its 225, of course i increase the weight week by week, i was just using those weights for an example... and i did read about your chest routine you posted and have a question, i perfer to do incline decline and flys after flat...
do you recommend that after i do that routine i go to incline decline and flys ??

i understand you think your program helped get you stronger and it did, but the truth is when you start, just about anything will work, is your program the best choice possible for strength gains? absolutely not! the idea is to listen to guys like me or others who have more experience and fought these same battles and learn from our mistakes and not repeat them, this will save you time and energy and make you stronger quicker. or you can chose to not listen, stick to the same thing you are doing, and make slow gains over a long period of time or just plateau completely. the choice is yours, i urge you and everyone here to think "out side of the box" try new things and leave you comfort zone of the same stale program being repeated wk after wk, and month after month and try something new that does work better. geting strength as a beginer is easy, now being able to continue to get stronger to an elite level after this and continue to make gains is the key to success and the difference btwn the slightly above average and the exceptional