separated shoulder

**pipper0916** · 10-27-2012, 08:42 PM

Thurs night i landed on my shoulder hard. Went to the hospital and they said it was separated.

As of right now i still cant move it in any direction and is bothering me constantly.

The doctors just gave me a sling. It feels out of place. Were the doctors suppose to set it back "in place" or is this not one of those injuries?

Is it possible or benefical for me to get surgery on it? Are there any supplements i can take to speed up recovery?

any personal recommendations or experiences anyone would like to add?

**pipper0916** · 10-27-2012, 08:43 PM

also the point to where your collar bone comes to on your shoulder is not there are on the one i seperated. It is also bruised and swollen.

**jj341** · 10-27-2012, 09:20 PM

I fell and separated my right shoulder several years ago. The doctor in the emergency room put it in a sling. It was very painful. I had to keep my arm close to my abs to help the pain. I never went back to the doctor as I didn't have health insurance at the time. I let it heal on it's own.
After about a month I went back to lifting weights, starting at 5 lbs on the bench press and increases in small increments from there. Range of motion without pain was very limited but I persisted. The separation caused an impingement and there was a bump on the on the top of the shoulder. After about 10 weeks I was back to lifting the same weight as before the injury.

**Noles12** · 10-27-2012, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by pipper0916

Thurs night i landed on my shoulder hard. Went to the hospital and they said it was separated.

As of right now i still cant move it in any direction and is bothering me constantly.

The doctors just gave me a sling. It feels out of place. Were the doctors suppose to set it back "in place" or is this not one of those injuries?

Is it possible or benefical for me to get surgery on it? Are there any supplements i can take to speed up recovery?

any personal recommendations or experiences anyone would like to add?

It may have set itself. Often just moving it after can reset is. I suffered a few dislocations and separations of shoulders in my playing days. A few took them popping it in, others I did myself. Did you get an MRI?

**pipper0916** · 10-28-2012, 10:30 AM

i did not get an MRI but fourtuantely i have one already scheduled from a previous injury. I figure i can just get both the injuries looked at.

thanks for the input

**lovbyts** · 10-29-2012, 04:36 AM

I hate reading about shoulder injuries, just makes mine hurt more.... surgery is always a last choice. I tried for a year doing PT and light training before I opted for surgery. That was last May and I'm still recovering and only lifting 1/3 of what I was at best. It's a SLOW process.

**Noles12** · 10-29-2012, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

I hate reading about shoulder injuries, just makes mine hurt more.... surgery is always a last choice. I tried for a year doing PT and light training before I opted for surgery. That was last May and I'm still recovering and only lifting 1/3 of what I was at best. It's a SLOW process.

I always avoided surgery when i could. Tore my rotator cuff and labrum and didnt want to mess with it in season. The doctors told me to schedule and appointment for a few months later and they would do surgery then. I said screw it and never went back. It sucked for a while. i couldnt bench over 100 pounds. I slowly progressed my way back up to full strength by the next season and another MRI showed much of the damage had healed and the increased muscle supporting it made up for the rest

**lovbyts** · 10-29-2012, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by Noles12

I always avoided surgery when i could. Tore my rotator cuff and labrum and didnt want to mess with it in season. The doctors told me to schedule and appointment for a few months later and they would do surgery then. I said screw it and never went back. It sucked for a while. i couldnt bench over 100 pounds. I slowly progressed my way back up to full strength by the next season and another MRI showed much of the damage had healed and the increased muscle supporting it made up for the rest

I hear you but I had damaged mine several times over the years. I had a good doctor and he really didn't want to do surgery at first. He is the head orthopedic surgeon for Seattle Seahawks and mariners.

After the surgery he said he was quite shocked at the amount of damage I had and was surprised I could use my arm at all. It has been a year since my last injury and it was only a little better. I'm now up to about 100lbs+ max on bench 5 months after surgery.

I know I have to take it slow so I'm not forcing it.

My other shoulder I have injured a couple times also once BAD but it healed with time. I really knew this one was not going to.

**Ricci82** · 12-14-2012, 05:32 PM

I am going through that right now. Its a separation acromial clavical(AC joint) it is very painful. My doctor told me that surgery is an absolute last resort. I have a partially torn ligament/tendon so it should heal on its own. Shoulder injuries are no joke. Looks like any upperbody workout is done for the next 3-4 months.

**Harv** · 01-11-2013, 04:47 AM

It will help if you can find an honest chiropractor. If you get a good one, they can line up your spine and get your ribs lined up, collarbone, scapula, the whole 9 yards. If the AC joint is stuck out of place, it will never fully heal and actually get worse over time, causing impingment. If your AC joint's out of place, that impingment could cause an imflammation of the rotator cuff and cut off motor nerves to your entire arm. Physical therapy (strengthening & stablizing) is very beneficial, but the chiropractic would make a greater impact towards healing.

**joshuam168** · 01-12-2013, 11:40 AM

If its an AC sep you cant put it back in place. An AC sep is when the 3 tendons that hold the clavicle down are injured, in a 3rd degree they all break. Since these tendons hold it in place simply pushing it back downwould do nothing, it would come right back up. So it has to heal on its own, and hope it heals right, try not use it much at all. Also about the MRI, you dont need a MRI, an md can diagnose with an xray, they can tell what degree of sep it is by how far away the clavicle is from the acromion. If its a mild sep it wont be that far apart while a 3rd degree is very far apart, in relation.

**calstate23** · 01-12-2013, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by pipper0916

Thurs night i landed on my shoulder hard. Went to the hospital and they said it was separated.

As of right now i still cant move it in any direction and is bothering me constantly.

The doctors just gave me a sling. It feels out of place. Were the doctors suppose to set it back "in place" or is this not one of those injuries?

Is it possible or benefical for me to get surgery on it? Are there any supplements i can take to speed up recovery?

any personal recommendations or experiences anyone would like to add?

I just posted this almost word for word to someone in another thread...I see this question a lot so I thought I would also start a thread...

First off, you are INJURED...STOP working out...If it truly hurts DO NOT try to push through the pain...You will just make your injury worse..Talk to the doctor, get a diagnosis and go from there...Most of us are not doctors so don't assume you know what is wrong.

Secondly, 98% of the time we get an injury we need to see an ORTHOPEDIC SURGEON. Someone that SPECIALIZES in the area of our injury...DO NOT GO TO A GENERAL PRACTITIONER, you will just waste your time and money...You have a stuffy nose, THEN go to your general practitioner...

Before the next step, I also want to point out something important - GET AN MRI! I see SO MANY guys on here say they are injured yet they haven't even got an MRI or know what's wrong...Bottom line, you can't fix your injury if you don't know what is wrong! If your doctor doesn't request an MRI, ask for one yourself..

Now to the good part, the part that will help you the most in finding a good doctor and getting treated... Let's create a HYPOTHETICAL situation...Let's say your shoulder is giving you problems....

Go to google and type in "Team Physician for what ever Professional sports team is closest in your area"...

For instance, if you lived in San Francisco you would type in "Team Physician for San Francisco 49ers"......Or if you have an option, you might want to pick a team that might specialize in an area that better suits your needs...For instance, you might want to type in "Team Physician for San Francisco Giants" since they probably deal with more shoulder injuries...etc.

In this case, Gary Fanton pops up saying he is the Team Physician in Orthopedics for the San Francisco 49ers...Then you click on the website to the clinic he works at....Which is Stanford Hospital and Clinics and then you make an appointment....

What you've just done is not ONLY found the CORRECT doctor for your type of injury (Not some general practice idiot) but also the BEST one probably in your county...

GOOD LUCK

P.S. - For those of you who are extremely far from a professional sports team and do not want to travel that far or do not have enough money you can type in "Team Physician for your local biggest college sports team"...That should suffice

**franklin 13** · 01-28-2013, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by calstate23

I just posted this almost word for word to someone in another thread...I see this question a lot so I thought I would also start a thread...

First off, you are INJURED...STOP working out...If it truly hurts DO NOT try to push through the pain...You will just make your injury worse..Talk to the doctor, get a diagnosis and go from there...Most of us are not doctors so don't assume you know what is wrong.

Secondly, 98% of the time we get an injury we need to see an ORTHOPEDIC SURGEON. Someone that SPECIALIZES in the area of our injury...DO NOT GO TO A GENERAL PRACTITIONER, you will just waste your time and money...You have a stuffy nose, THEN go to your general practitioner...

Before the next step, I also want to point out something important - GET AN MRI! I see SO MANY guys on here say they are injured yet they haven't even got an MRI or know what's wrong...Bottom line, you can't fix your injury if you don't know what is wrong! If your doctor doesn't request an MRI, ask for one yourself..

Now to the good part, the part that will help you the most in finding a good doctor and getting treated... Let's create a HYPOTHETICAL situation...Let's say your shoulder is giving you problems....

Go to google and type in "Team Physician for what ever Professional sports team is closest in your area"...

For instance, if you lived in San Francisco you would type in "Team Physician for San Francisco 49ers"......Or if you have an option, you might want to pick a team that might specialize in an area that better suits your needs...For instance, you might want to type in "Team Physician for San Francisco Giants" since they probably deal with more shoulder injuries...etc.

In this case, Gary Fanton pops up saying he is the Team Physician in Orthopedics for the San Francisco 49ers...Then you click on the website to the clinic he works at....Which is Stanford Hospital and Clinics and then you make an appointment....

What you've just done is not ONLY found the CORRECT doctor for your type of injury (Not some general practice idiot) but also the BEST one probably in your county...

GOOD LUCK

P.S. - For those of you who are extremely far from a professional sports team and do not want to travel that far or do not have enough money you can type in "Team Physician for your local biggest college sports team"...That should suffice

really good post bro. very informative.

**lovbyts** · 01-29-2013, 12:34 AM

calstate23
Great advice. I swear it looks like one of my post or what i would say but it's not. It is pretty much word for word what i have done right down to finding the orthopedic surgeon. The surgeon who did my surgery is the main orthopedic surgeon for Seattle Mariners and Seahawks.

Only think I would add is #1 start using ice right away for any new injury, not heat.

**greengo** · 02-25-2013, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

calstate23
Great advice. I swear it looks like one of my post or what i would say but it's not. It is pretty much word for word what i have done right down to finding the orthopedic surgeon. The surgeon who did my surgery is the main orthopedic surgeon for Seattle Mariners and Seahawks.

Only think I would add is #1 start using ice right away for any new injury, not heat.

Hey mate, how is it now after surgery? Do you know what was done to stabilize it. I had a grade 5 separation. both ligaments completely torn. After 2 surgeries Its still not so great.

Hope you are recovering well.

**MajorPectorial** · 02-27-2013, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by calstate23

I just posted this almost word for word to someone in another thread...I see this question a lot so I thought I would also start a thread...

First off, you are INJURED...STOP working out...If it truly hurts DO NOT try to push through the pain...You will just make your injury worse..Talk to the doctor, get a diagnosis and go from there...Most of us are not doctors so don't assume you know what is wrong.

Secondly, 98% of the time we get an injury we need to see an ORTHOPEDIC SURGEON. Someone that SPECIALIZES in the area of our injury...DO NOT GO TO A GENERAL PRACTITIONER, you will just waste your time and money...You have a stuffy nose, THEN go to your general practitioner...

Before the next step, I also want to point out something important - GET AN MRI! I see SO MANY guys on here say they are injured yet they haven't even got an MRI or know what's wrong...Bottom line, you can't fix your injury if you don't know what is wrong! If your doctor doesn't request an MRI, ask for one yourself..

Now to the good part, the part that will help you the most in finding a good doctor and getting treated... Let's create a HYPOTHETICAL situation...Let's say your shoulder is giving you problems....

Go to google and type in "Team Physician for what ever Professional sports team is closest in your area"...

For instance, if you lived in San Francisco you would type in "Team Physician for San Francisco 49ers"......Or if you have an option, you might want to pick a team that might specialize in an area that better suits your needs...For instance, you might want to type in "Team Physician for San Francisco Giants" since they probably deal with more shoulder injuries...etc.

In this case, Gary Fanton pops up saying he is the Team Physician in Orthopedics for the San Francisco 49ers...Then you click on the website to the clinic he works at....Which is Stanford Hospital and Clinics and then you make an appointment....

What you've just done is not ONLY found the CORRECT doctor for your type of injury (Not some general practice idiot) but also the BEST one probably in your county...

GOOD LUCK

P.S. - For those of you who are extremely far from a professional sports team and do not want to travel that far or do not have enough money you can type in "Team Physician for your local biggest college sports team"...That should suffice

Follow this. Most correct way to look at it. N do it now. Or even yesterday.