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07-21-2013, 05:43 AM #1New Member
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Rotator cuff problem iguess?
My right shoulder clicks every time i raise my hand above my head. I do train rear delts and rotator cuffs. Also when im on dip machine, dips, tricep puchdown the front of my shoulder hurts ALOT. I am a firm beliver of hypertrophy it works with me. I dont use heavy weight. So i decided to go to the dc and see whats going on for thr third time he says your geneticly weak on the right shoulder?? Any1 heard of that before
Sorry typing in a train
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07-21-2013, 05:46 AM #2New Member
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Also the right shoulder hurts when i train on flat bench and incline also goes to any pushing exercise ( but it hurts majorly on the tricpes and dips) the rest is kind of minor pain
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07-21-2013, 09:41 AM #3
Yeah my friend it sounds like you may have a sprain or micro tear somewhere in the rotator cuff. Im no doctor but I am an aspiring medical student and also have a shoulder injury as well but I have bursitis. But if it hurts in the front for all the pushing excercises you mentiomed then it could be a micro tear causing inflammation and pain. Idk why a doctor wouldnt have suggested that. Of course the only way to heal is to take it easy. Follow the rice method after some light work on it and take an nsaid if theres pain. Try to do it without nsaids as long term nsaid use can have some bad side effects. Just keep things light. You dont want to feel pain when lifting otherwise it will get worse. Remember pain is a signal sent to get you to stop doing whatever you are doing.
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07-21-2013, 09:41 AM #4
Well, you can rest assured, you now belong to a fraternity of brothers who know exactly what you're talking about and how it feels. Anyone who's been lifting for a long period of time either has or has experienced some form of shoulder issue. I've had acromioplasty on my right shoulder, and worked through a painful impingement on my left. Both were from improper lifting, heavy lifting and neglecting my external rotators. I also wasn't stretching and prehabing my shoulders for shit prior to my injuries.
There's lots you can do. Lots of doctors get awards by us for either being ignorant or mis-informed. Their job is to diagnose and treat; be it via medicine or sending you off to PT. That's it. However, most of us know we're not perfectly symmetrical and typically one side is stronger than the other. Anyway, that's not what's causing your pain. My guess is a combination of a few things:
1.) Overuse: How often are you training your bench compared to the rest of your body? And are you doing the same exercises when you work your upper body?
2.) Certain exercises: Performing exercises on a flat bench pinches your shoulder blades and restricts their free movement. When that happens, they aren't free to aid in supporting the weight, and the stress shifts to the other muscles (ie shoulders, chest and triceps), thus overloading them with even more stress.
By arching your lower back when performing bench press and setting up your traps to support your upper body, your scapula is now free to move and assist your other muscles.
Dips are great, but can suck ass if you have shoulder or elbow problems. I don't do them because of both. Not the end of the world. Or maybe just take some time off from them and incorporate the exercise every few weeks. That should keep the same kind of stress off problematic areas.
3.) Neglect of external rotators: Don't be insulted. We ALL tend to neglect our external rotators. Many/most of us get that gorilla like posture called kyphosis from over developing our front delts and chest, while minimizing the amount of work our rear delts get. Rhomboids can also feel like an orphan, too.
It's important you begin focusing on strengthening your external rotators both before your workout and during. The disproportion of strength from the front to back causes all kinds of shoulder problems, and the best way of fixing that is through learning how to commit more time to getting the back side stronger.
4.) Stretching and warm up: If you're not doing more than swinging your arms around prior to bench pressing, then you're clearly not doing enough. Stretching the front and rear delts, tricepts, chest and back will help a lot. Also, using aids like Indian Clubs and a Shoulder Horn can both warm up your joints, and open up room inside your rotator cuff. This is a vague explanation, but there's so much to dive into, it would take a novel to explain it all. I encourage you to start typing shoulder impingement treatment, shoulder rehab and prehab into your search engine, and you'll be amazed at what you'll find.
Anyway, I feel for you. I hate having painful shoulders. But you can get better. I did, and I still powerlift. Just look at what you're currently doing and look at ways to make sure all sides of your shoulder (and body) are getting attention. Spend some time prehabing your shoulders prior to your workouts, and work on your technique, and I think you'll start feeling better before too long.
Good luck and feel better.
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07-21-2013, 10:23 AM #5New Member
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Thank you guys, I am now planning on fixing my shoulder before it turns into a major issue. I will add stretching excercises.
Just a quick note tho when i flex my right bicep and move my shoulder arround i can feel the long head of the biceps putting strain on the shoulder ( now dont get me wrong im not a curl monkey, i dont do 20+ sers on biceps)
I used to train every body part 2 times per week until i found out there is something called over ****ing training ( for me tho )
Here is my routine ( old )
Day 1 Chest tricep ( 24 sets )
Day 2 Back bicep ( 20 sets )
Day 3 Shoulders ,abs (front,side, rear) ( 20 sets )
Day 4 Legs
Day 5 repeat routine I wouldn't rest until i feel tired ( i did take a week off if i felt like i totally need time off the gym )
Now its more simple
Day 1 lats, traps, rear delts
Day 2 chest shoulders
Day 3 rest
Day 4 arms, abs
Day 5 legs
Day 6 rest
Day 7 repeat
Im just wondering because i believe i used to over train shoulder looking on my old routine
Really love it when we people dont understand how good something we had until we lose it.
Thank you again guys who replied, i hope this thread also helps some other guys who can relate to what this topic is about
Cheers
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i would tell your doctor you want a MRI of your shoulder done. Then you know for sure. I would refrain from exercises that make it hurt, if its minor it will heal if it comes back then you probably need to go under the knife.
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07-21-2013, 10:37 AM #7
Your bicep passes underneath your acromioclavicular joint, which if that area is irritated will sound off when you involve your biceps. Try keeping your shoulders pinned back, which will help a little, but you've definitely got some inflammation going on.
If you can afford it or have decent insurance, then definitely go get an MRI.
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