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    Quote Originally Posted by LeanMeOut
    Well today is day 3, took my 3rd dose of 200mg.

    So far I have not seen any real side effects and I am still not sweating when I am in doors and in the a/c with my fan on. I have been sleeping great at night, and no real heat sensations from carbs. Just slight ammounts of heat and that's it. I am still going to stick with my doseage of 200mg though because I can definitely feel it working as I am already down a few pounds and my stomach is constantly burning because I am hungry. Other than that no sides thus far..... I will update later. I should have about 405mg of DNP in my blood today.


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    (And like I said the amount of supps needed is too often exhaugerated)

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    Here's what my diet has been like the last 2 days.....



    Here was a training day:


    Meal 1: Oats / Egg Whites / Protein Powder
    Meal 2: Lean Ground Beef / Broccoli / Fish Oil
    Meal 3: Tuna / Mayo
    Meal 4: Protein Shake / Apple
    Meal 5: Protein Shake / Dextrose
    Meal 6: Chicken Breast / Brown Rice
    Meal 7: Shake w/ Flax......


    Here was my non training day:

    Meal 1: Oats / Egg Whites / Protein Powder
    Meal 2: Tuna / Mayo
    Meal 3: Chicken Breast / Almonds
    Meal 4: Protein Shake / Natty PB
    Meal 5: Protein Shake / Apple
    Meal 6: Lean Ground Beef / Low Carb Tortilla / Swiss Cheese / Salsa / Lettuce
    Meal 7: Protein Shake / Flax

    I have been shooting for maintence level calories..... somewhere around 2400-2500kcals usually puts me at maintenance.....and I am going for about 300g Protein, 150-180g Carbs, 50g of fat ED


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    Quote Originally Posted by kingofmasters
    Yes we will be the first board to incorporate and promote Low dose Long cycles!!
    (And like I said the amount of supps needed is too often exhaugerated)

    Good luck with it all,

    Kingofmasters



    Yup yup...... my supplement list is simple and cheap.....and honestly I can still train / do cardio like normal at this dosage so far. We will see after a couple more days.... but honestly this far I am fine. I just sweat profusely at the gym after lifting for 20 minutes. I also cut my cardio down to 20-30 minutes just to be on the safe side.


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    Looking good buddy, keep going!

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    Just got back from the gym.......today was leg day and I was still able to Squat without a problem and even go pretty heavy for reps. I started out with a warm up of 225, then went to 315 for 10, then 365 for 6, then 385 for 3.

    I sweated a bit more than usual, but honestly nothing major. I feel perfectly fine.... the ECY stack is keeping me up beat and energetic. After my PWO shake and PPWO meal I got a little hot, but other than that nothing. 200mg is a walk in the park so far


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    Great news bro. Glad it's going well for you.

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    Good stuff. do you usually squat that much or do you think the ecy stack has helped in the strength/energy department?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImmmtheIceman
    Good stuff. do you usually squat that much or do you think the ecy stack has helped in the strength/energy department?


    I usually squat that much.....actually I usually squat a little heavier than that but I wanted to "kinda" take it easy today


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    Quote Originally Posted by LeanMeOut
    I usually squat that much.....actually I usually squat a little heavier than that but I wanted to "kinda" take it easy today


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    yea i dont blame you on that one

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    Day 4

    Well I still don't feel hot..... the only added side was last night I could not sleep because I was hot. But then again my mother turned off the **** air conditioning in the middle of the night so that was probably the reason. I am going to sleep downstairs tonight so I can have full control over the climate indoors lol. I can't wait till my house is ready in November, then I won't have to put up with this $hit.

    But as for heat etc.... I am sitting here right now under the fan and I am not sweating at all. I did notice some water retention today though, I got on the scale and actually put on 4 lbs since yesterday and it wasn't from eating, so I must be starting to hold water. I am going to take my dose today in about an hour. I will update later PWO


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    Well I have decided to add a couple more supplements to my list......


    Tribulus will be taken @ 4g ED as well as Lutein


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    Quote Originally Posted by LeanMeOut
    Tribulus will be taken @ 4g ED as well as Lutein
    Journal is looking great LMO. Curious though, why the addition of the two supps?

    Continue the great progress,

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    Quote Originally Posted by OSTIE
    Journal is looking great LMO. Curious though, why the addition of the two supps?

    Continue the great progress,

    -ost


    Figured bumping my natural test production a little would help with any catabolism I might encounter (which I really shouldn't) plus the extra energy would be nice. And the lutein is for my eyes just as a pre-caution because some people SWEAR that DNP can hurt your eyes.


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    Day 5

    Wasssupppp....


    I am still here!! Sides are still about the same level, although during my workout yesterday I poored sweat like never before. Other than that while I was in a/c I was fine. Last night I got a little hot but just turned the a/c up a bit when everyone was asleep and then I was ok. This $hit is working though..... I am down 1.5 pounds from 2 days ago in the morning. I will update later on.....as I might start T3 today as well @ 50 mcg


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    Quote Originally Posted by LeanMeOut
    Wasssupppp....


    I am still here!! Sides are still about the same level, although during my workout yesterday I poored sweat like never before. Other than that while I was in a/c I was fine. Last night I got a little hot but just turned the a/c up a bit when everyone was asleep and then I was ok. This $hit is working though..... I am down 1.5 pounds from 2 days ago in the morning. I will update later on.....as I might start T3 today as well @ 50 mcg


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    Thats cool bro, Your weight may fluctuate a bit as the cycle goes on. When you get off of the dnp though it will pretty much just go down and stay there. I lost about 4-5 pounds in 6 days while on.

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    Day 6

    Got up and did 30 minutes of cardio this morning....... man did it kick my ass. When I got done I felt like $hit. I came downstairs and made my oatmeal and egg whites and once I had some food and extra water I felt fine again. Today I'll be above 500mg of DNP in my blood. I am down a couple more pounds since I started, and I am starting to look tighter although I still have plenty of fat to lose. The sides still are not that bad..... just sweat at times and a little extra tired. Other than that I am fine. ECY keeps me up and running all day long.

    I plan on doing 14 days this cycle so I got another 8 days left. Wish me luck !!!


    Oh yea..... workouts have NOT been bad at all. They have been a little less productive than usual but still up to par in my book. I have had worse workouts before. I am also starting to take extra Glutamine right now just to make sure Catabolism is kept to a minimum.



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    Goodluck with the rest of the cycle! Sounds like you'r makin some good progress bro.. keep it up!

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    Hey LMO I just noticed your DNP thread also and thought I would chime in to let you know I will also be following it. It seems like my first 3 days were a bit like your first 3. No real effects or issues. Sounds like you are noticing changes though since. I am glad I saw your post though about the Lutien because my eyes actually are burning like hell. I can see just fine but d*mn do they hurt. Almost like going carbless or when you get a bad sinus infection or fever. I had never heard that DNP was rough on your eyes but I certainly would say it has effected me (may be my low amount of carbs too though). I will adjust my diet to incorporate more carbs (oatmeal) like you have done and will definetly add the Lutein. Did you get any before pics by chance?
    I hate to do this but I am giving myself a shameless plug. Check out my DNP thread also and feel free to contribute like you have all done in this one.

    http://67.18.108.244/showthread.php?p=1210089

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChosenOne
    Hey LMO I just noticed your DNP thread also and thought I would chime in to let you know I will also be following it. It seems like my first 3 days were a bit like your first 3. No real effects or issues. Sounds like you are noticing changes though since. I am glad I saw your post though about the Lutien because my eyes actually are burning like hell. I can see just fine but d*mn do they hurt. Almost like going carbless or when you get a bad sinus infection or fever. I had never heard that DNP was rough on your eyes but I certainly would say it has effected me (may be my low amount of carbs too though). I will adjust my diet to incorporate more carbs (oatmeal) like you have done and will definetly add the Lutein. Did you get any before pics by chance?
    I hate to do this but I am giving myself a shameless plug. Check out my DNP thread also and feel free to contribute like you have all done in this one.

    http://67.18.108.244/showthread.php?p=1210089


    Thanks for the post bro I am gona follow yours as well. Today I felt more heat than the previous days but still nothing major. Yea might as well be safe and take lutein and r-ala because I have heard both are good for the eyes while on DNP. Whether it is true or not I don't know but I am sure it won't hurt.

    I didn't take before pics unfortunately, but I have some recent pics that I will post up next to the afters that were pretty close to what I looked like before starting.

    I am actually thinking about bumping up to 400mgs for a couple days just to see how bad it is at a higher doseage..... but then again I might not and just throw the t3 in along with the DNP and see how it goes.


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    Well after much thought and consideration I decided to down another 200mgs tonight so that brings me up to 400mgs for today. Tomorrow I am also going to take 400mgs and start t3 @ 50mcg ED for the duration of this cycle. Wish me luck


    Here is what my DNP blood concentration will look like:

    Day Dosage Blood Concentration
    1 200 200
    2 200 326
    3 200 405
    4 200 455
    5 200 487
    6 400 707
    7 400 845
    8 200 732
    9 200 661
    10 200 616
    11 200 588
    12 200 570
    13 200 559
    14 200 552
    15 0 348
    16 0 219


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    6 400 707

    Get ready for that bro, its gonna go up 300mg in 24 hours. :-/




    Quote Originally Posted by LeanMeOut
    Well after much thought and consideration I decided to down another 200mgs tonight so that brings me up to 400mgs for today. Tomorrow I am also going to take 400mgs and start t3 @ 50mcg ED for the duration of this cycle. Wish me luck


    Here is what my DNP blood concentration will look like:

    Day Dosage Blood Concentration
    1 200 200
    2 200 326
    3 200 405
    4 200 455
    5 200 487
    6 400 707
    7 400 845
    8 200 732
    9 200 661
    10 200 616
    11 200 588
    12 200 570
    13 200 559
    14 200 552
    15 0 348
    16 0 219


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    Quote Originally Posted by LeanMeOut
    Well after much thought and consideration I decided to down another 200mgs tonight so that brings me up to 400mgs for today. Tomorrow I am also going to take 400mgs and start t3 @ 50mcg ED for the duration of this cycle. Wish me luck


    Here is what my DNP blood concentration will look like:

    Day Dosage Blood Concentration
    1 200 200
    2 200 326
    3 200 405
    4 200 455
    5 200 487
    6 400 707
    7 400 845
    8 200 732
    9 200 661
    10 200 616
    11 200 588
    12 200 570
    13 200 559
    14 200 552
    15 0 348
    16 0 219


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    **** bro, just be careful please.. drink a **** load of water and v8...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeanMeOut
    Well after much thought and consideration I decided to down another 200mgs tonight so that brings me up to 400mgs for today. Tomorrow I am also going to take 400mgs and start t3 @ 50mcg ED for the duration of this cycle. Wish me luck


    Here is what my DNP blood concentration will look like:

    Day Dosage Blood Concentration
    1 200 200
    2 200 326
    3 200 405
    4 200 455
    5 200 487
    6 400 707
    7 400 845
    8 200 732
    9 200 661
    10 200 616
    11 200 588
    12 200 570
    13 200 559
    14 200 552
    15 0 348
    16 0 219


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    Although this is not what I would have advised on your first run I don't see it as being a huge risk (given how you've reacted so far). But just understand that once you're there, you're there. If you don't like the sides you get at that dose you're just gonna have to wait till the DNP levels drop back down.

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    Heres where the fun beggins...

    I think you and I have simmilar reactions to dnp lmo, we both don't have too many sides and seem to get great results from it. Anyways, drink a lot of water and good luck!

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    Thanks for the concern guys..... I just want to make the most out of this little run .


    Don't worry I am fine. I have to take another 200mgs in about an hour. I honestly feel fine, and I am going to start t3 @ 50mcg today as well. I figure if I can't handle the sides @ 400mgs I can always skip a dosage for a day and it will drop the level back down to around where I would have been taking 200mgs throughout the whole cycle. Either way I am sure I'll be fine. I am taking the necessary precautions

    400mgs is as high as I will go though...... that's my limit on this stuff. I don't really want to use t3 either after reading up on it, but I guess it's a must @ this dosage.

    I'll post back later because I should be feeling some nice heat in a little while


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    Well I am still here


    Just thought I would update again.....


    I am now at a much higher blood level of DNP than before along with the 50mcg of T3 and I still feel completely fine. I am sweating more at this dosage than 200mgs, but I still feel ok. Going outside is d*mn near unbearable though.

    I will let ya know how it goes at the gym today after lifting w/ 400mgs


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    Quote Originally Posted by LeanMeOut
    Well I am still here


    Just thought I would update again.....


    I am now at a much higher blood level of DNP than before along with the 50mcg of T3 and I still feel completely fine. I am sweating more at this dosage than 200mgs, but I still feel ok. Going outside is d*mn near unbearable though.

    I will let ya know how it goes at the gym today after lifting w/ 400mgs


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    Nice man, hope everything goes well for you. Best of luck bro, stay safe.

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    It seems you have similar experiences to myself with this 200mg dose. I am not feeling the heat either but think I will ride it out the entire 30days. Since you arent running it for an extremely long time I can understand you bumping up your dose. I will be anxious to see what you think about the DNP with/without T3 since you have just now added it. It may create more heat since T3 generally does that.

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    Things are looking good LMO...I've been real busy the last few days,so I had to catch up on your diary.I was sort of hoping you would have stayed at 200 mgs so I could see your results...but keep on plugging bro.

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    good luck LMO... I AM feeling the heat from only 200mg... not bad but.... feeling it building and lifting is getting rough to get to 6 reps for me. Good Luck Bro!

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    Work out sucked today.... I was soaking wet by the time I was done. I am going to take another 200mgs in about 3 hours from now. So this will be day 2 @ 400mgs. Depending on how tomorrow is will decide if I go back down to 200mgs or not.


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    Are you looking leaner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slizzut
    Are you looking leaner?


    Yes I am looking leaner in areas...... it seems I am holding A LOT of water around my lower abs and love handles. It sucks..... they were already fat and now they look worse. But being bloated is part of the process

    Once the water sheds when I finish it should look great. I am down another pounds from yesterday and I still feel pretty good if I am in doors in the a/c.



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    Quote Originally Posted by LeanMeOut
    Yes I am looking leaner in areas...... it seems I am holding A LOT of water around my lower abs and love handles. It sucks..... they were already fat and now they look worse. But being bloated is part of the process

    Once the water sheds when I finish it should look great. I am down another pounds from yesterday and I still feel pretty good if I am in doors in the a/c.



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    Its all worth it bro, once the water sheds you will look fantastic. Also, its very hard to gain fat back it seems. The week after I ran mine all I ate was hamburgers and pizza and I never seemed to gain any back.

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    Day 8.....

    Well the heat has started to get to me...... last night I didn't sleep very well because I was sweating all night. This morning when I woke up I had the worst sensation of heat ever. Waking up on DNP is probably the worst time of the day.

    I have made a decision not to weigh myself again until I am done as the water retention is starting to show and I am not really losing anymore. It is frusting to go through hell and not see the numbers dropping on the scale, so I am going to just watch myself in the mirror (although that is depressing too because my muscles look sooooo flat / unpumped) and wait until the last day to weigh in again, and then I will weigh myself again after the water clears. So far I am still down a few pounds from starting, and I have eaten 100% clean with the exception of 1 cheat meal of ice cream / oreos lol. Other than that the whole time I have been on DNP diet has been perfect.

    I am going to stay at 400mgs and continue w/ 50mcg of T3 and see how the rest pans out. I will update again later as today is a cardio only day, so I won't have any lifting stories to share


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    LMO,

    ...without hijacking TCO thread... I just started with the eye pain today. It feels like they are dry and they itch. I used some "clear eyes" drops and it did help. Vision is fine just weird feeling. Good luck Bro!

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    Hmmm....... weird. Do either of your guys wear glasses or contacts?


    Are you also taking lutein and R-ALA???


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    I wear glasses....
    I just started on the lutein today...
    I have been doing the R-ALA for awhile (months)
    Yea it is strange feeling...

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    I used to wear glasses, then had LASIK eye surgery, and I've never experienced any eye problems with DNP (even at 600mg ED). So remember that everyone is different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SV-1
    I used to wear glasses, then had LASIK eye surgery, and I've never experienced any eye problems with DNP (even at 600mg ED). So remember that everyone is different.
    The eye issue makes no sense. Do you think it is because of the excessive heat in one's body? I know my temp is up about 4 degrees from where it generally is.

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