Anavar/Test E/Primo cycle (newbie)

**TommyTrainR** · 07-12-2006, 08:21 PM

Keep up the good work, but i really think you should increase your food intake. How big are your portions?

**ridiculous_gunz** · 07-12-2006, 09:39 PM

Thanks for the suggestion Tommy. I'm eating (5-6 meals, 250-300 g protien a day) as much as I can right now... it's just that I'm eating pretty clean (low sugar, moderate saturated fat) cause I'm trying to add mostly lean mass. I'd rather gain 20 lbs with no change in BF than 30 lbs with a bunch of fat that I'll have to get rid of later.

**ridiculous_gunz** · 07-15-2006, 09:46 AM

Update: Just hit 201 lbs yesterday.

**Motobro** · 07-15-2006, 10:21 AM

Please keep the blood pressure in check! Stay healthy, I want to be able to read about your entire cycle

**Anabolios** · 07-15-2006, 09:39 PM

lol gunz..you got porn for your avatar you animal....

**PiecinItUp** · 07-28-2006, 05:31 AM

how bout some pics of your front, not just side and back pics? Looking good so far bro and good luck on your last 3 or 4 weeks

**elcoman** · 07-28-2006, 06:59 PM

Keep up the good work bro. I like the detail that you put into your log.

**rd53** · 07-30-2006, 12:24 AM

keep it up, sounds like its going great!! good job bro

+1 on the detail on weights

**ridiculous_gunz** · 07-30-2006, 01:18 AM

Week 9 update
I apologize for the long absence from my log. During the last 3 weeks I've been hampered by a shoulder injury that has been limiting my ability to lift heavy on a number of excercises. Basically, I hit 200 two weeks ago and hovered around there until about a week ago. Since I can't really lift heavy right now b/c of my injury, I've decided to lean out and cut for the last two weeks of the cycle. This week I reduced my calories to less than 1,000 and began doing cardio daily.... and I'm already down to 192 lbs! I literally lost 10 lbs in about 9 days WHILE ON TEST. I feel like I'm losing muscle but I hope it's just water weight and fat. Anyway, since I certainly will have to consume a great deal of calories during PCT I want to lose the fat first while the muscle is protected by test. I'd appreciate any opinions or experiences with this situation (is it normal to lose that much weight during a test cycle?)

**timtim** · 07-30-2006, 06:59 AM

thats not only water your losing its muscle. 1000 calories? seriously, i have never heard something so ridiculous. aas arent holding your mass on that many calories. any new muscle you may have gained is burning up and then adding in the calories during pct will cause a fat rebound because your body is in starvation mode now. think about it, 9 pounds in 10 days is not all water. considering you were doing 250mg test which is pretty much hrt doses with anavar . there isnt that much bloat. this is terrible planning. bodyweight x 10 is the lowest you should be going and your nearly 10 times lower than that.

**ridiculous_gunz** · 07-30-2006, 11:44 AM

Thanks for the advice Timtim. I got a good cutting diet now so I'm sticking to that. My weight generally fluctuates by about 5 lbs during the course of the day (lighter in the morning, heavier at night), so I don't think I really lost too much muscle. I'm going with 2000 - 2500 calories a day now though.

**ridiculous_gunz** · 07-30-2006, 11:54 AM

BTW, to correct your post, I'm only taking 500 mg wk Test E right now. I finished the anavar in week 6.

**timtim** · 07-30-2006, 04:17 PM

yeah, stick with whats working now. that be horrible for your metabolism and body in general. good luck.

**ridiculous_gunz** · 08-16-2006, 02:07 PM

PCT Update
Okay, well I realize it's been awhile since I updated this journal and I apologize. I ended my cycle 17 days ago and I began PCT 5 days ago (waited roughly 2 weeks for the test to clear my system). I am still on a cutting diet and I am losing weight slowly, but my strength has not suffered much so I believe I am retaining muscle while losing fat. My PCT protocol is the following:
500 iu HCG ED
40 mg Nolva ED
10 g Creatine ED
The creatine is awesome - my endurance in the gym is back to where it used to be before my cycle. When I was on test, I was slightly stronger but my endurance was very low b/c my heart rate would go through the roof after every set. Now I feel strong and I can do many more sets and work out for 1.5-2 hrs (including 40 min cardio) like I used to. I'm shedding fat like there's no tomorrow. In terms of side effects, I notice a few very small pimples on my shoulders and chest from time to time, but nothing major.
My current weight is 188 lbs, but I am far leaner than when I started the cycle at 180 lbs, so I think I've gained about 10-15 lbs of lean muscle. The odd part is, I almost wish I had stopped the cycle after week 6 of Anavar /Test. At that point, I was a lean 195 lbs. During the following 5 weeks on Test 500 mg wk, I went up to 202 lbs, but I gained a lot of fat. To be honest, I'm really not sure how much extra muscle I gained after week 6 of this cycle. Anyway, I'm going to give Test another chance on my next cycle (mainly b/c I still have a lot left), but I am only going to run it for 7-8 weeks next time (with strong frontloading so it kicks in faster).
My next cycle will look like this:
Test 750 mg wk 1-7 (frontloaded at 1500 mg in first week)
Primo 400 mg wk 3-7