Cycle expectations?

[Captain37]

Hi all,
I hear a lot of telling people to wait before using cycle. I am 35yrs use to work out a good bit, but never wanted to be a bodybuilder or anything but always seemed to have trouble gaining a lot of weight. Usually maxed at 165lbs. took a couple years off but have been back at it for about 3months. I have always had somewhat of a fast metabolism and have to eat like a horse to really make any gains and I am currently eating a high calorie and protien diet of 4000-5000 calories and 300+ grams of protein a day. I have been working out and managed to get a cycle of Test E and Dbol . My stats are:

Age:35
Height 5' 9"
Weight 152 lbs
bf% approx 11

My cycle is fairly light

Week 1-5
Dbol 20mgs
Week 1-5
1cc week

Week 6-12
1.5-2 cc Week

My PCT will be clom and Nolv

I am hoping to gain about about 20lbs and keep about 10lbs on this cycle. I have been told I could gain more, but is this realistic? Any recomendations? I am really staying strict with diet and workouts and would like to get to about 175 and maintain by the end of the year.

Thanks

[Captain37]

My BMI is about 1700 at this point.

[D7M]

what does are you planning on running? (use mg, not cc)

most people will tell you that you can still gain much more natty.

and no one can predict what *your* results will be.

[Captain37]

Thanks for the fast response. What is your recommended mg?

I know that no one can predict, but I was just curious what is a resonable gain even at worst case. I have read so many different things and heard so many different things I thought I would ask some experts.

[Captain37]

MAybe I should say 1 ml a week or 250mgs a week.

Is that better?

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

test e should be 500mg/week split up into 2 injections, for example one 250mg shot monday morning and one on thursday night (once every 3.5 days) to keep steady levels in your body... totaling 500mg/week

[Captain37]

Thanka OPUCK, Yes, I was considering splitting up the dose and I also will be uping the does a few weeks in from 250mgs to 500mgs.

[wukillabee]

Thanka OPUCK, Yes, I was considering splitting up the dose and I also will be uping the does a few weeks in from 250mgs to 500mgs.

Anf what logic is behind this? Keep it at 500mg from week one until the end. Run it at least 10 weeks like this and dbol for 4 weeks at 20-30mg ed. Anything less will be a waste imo. Also i think u can get bigger without gear but if ur set in ur ways ur set in ur ways.

[Captain37]

Thanks Man, I was just told I should ease into it. Thats why I am on here asking you guys. Also, any recommendations for PCT? I was thinking 4 weeks of Clomid and Nolv but was not sure exact amounts? Any help?

Also, Just FYI I also take propecia. I have heard this may reduce my gains as well. Any truth to this?

[marseea1]

Run the test for 12 weeks. no more than 500mg. you could probably even go with 400mg a week.

PCT for 4 weeks starting 14 days after your last injection
Clomid
100/50/50/50
Nolva
40/40/20/20

[FireGuy]

At 35 years of age I am betting he could run it at 300mgs a week and reach his goal easily if his diets right. Then again, if his diets right he could reach his goal naturally in 6 months.