my test e dbol 1st cycle

[LiftedDuramax2007]

4sets wide grip pull downs 4 ssets close grip pull downs 4sets barbell bentover rows 4sets dumbell rows abd 4sets cable rows. 4 sets weighted hyper extensions


thanks VM i will be getting the taurine asap. yaaay im finally growing lol

hmm, I do all those except for wide grip and hyper extensions

Mind posting up your routine? reps, sets and all that jazz

[ty357]

hmm, I do all those except for wide grip and hyper extensions

Mind posting up your routine? reps, sets and all that jazz

yea thats my routine. reps are 15,12,10,10. for the hyper extensions i just max out all 4 sets

[tjax03]

here we go at the end of the 3rd week. i feel good. still have them crazy back pumps. no acne. libido is there. overall im good. added another meal to the day. strenth is going up. only thing my tendons in my arm starting to hurt. video clip will be up probally next or the following week.

Which tendons hurt? Are there any particular exercises that seem to be causing the pain?

[LiftedDuramax2007]

yea thats my routine. reps are 15,12,10,10. for the hyper extensions i just max out all 4 sets

Sorry bud, I meant your whole body routine.

[ty357]

Which tendons hurt? Are there any particular exercises that seem to be causing the pain?

the tendons in the middle of my arm. when i do curls and rowing movements

Sorry bud, I meant your whole body routine.

ok bro ill post it up tomorrow.

[ty357]

monday i do legs. 6sets squats,hacks,leg press,and leg curls. and a calf routine top wrote out for me. Tuesday chest 4set barbell incline 4set dumbell incline 3set barbell flat 3set cable crossovers. wednesday back 4set widegrip pull down 4set close grip pull downs 4 set bent over rows 4 sets dumbell rows and 4 sets cable rows. thursday shoulders 4sets military press 4 set dumbell press 4 set side lateral 3 set front lateral. 6set barbell shrugs front and back.

[ty357]

guys im also very agitated is this usual during cycle?

[Vitruvian-Man]

guys im also very agitated is this usual during cycle?

lol.. just breathe and calm yourself down.

Don't let that 'roid-rage' crap get into your head, it's all hype bro!

(unless you're on hella high dosages of DHT derivatives or tren /halo. LOL).

-VM

[mg1228]

i get real agitated at times---and others im fine

it aint really in your head---its the hormone

[ghettoboyd]

^^^^^^that being said sense your aware of it keep your cool bro or else peeps will definitly know your "on"....you dont need that kind of attention/trouble...

[ty357]

lol.. just breathe and calm yourself down.

Don't let that 'roid-rage' crap get into your head, it's all hype bro!

(unless you're on hella high dosages of DHT derivatives or tren /halo. LOL).

-VM

I know im not going crazy tho. im just feeling a lil agitated thats all.

^^^^^^that being said sense your aware of it keep your cool bro or else peeps will definitly know your "on"....you dont need that kind of attention/trouble...

I really dont care what people think but i understand where your coming from bro

[ty357]

i get real agitated at times---and others im fine

it aint really in your head---its the hormone

You right i know its not in my head. I know exactly how im feeling bro. i know im not crazy lol

[mg1228]

do us all a favor and take ur avi down, lol -- everytime i see a post by u i get all down about the way i look--jk lookin stellar

[LiftedDuramax2007]

Damn Ty, you work out 4 days in a row with no rest? And then what you rest 3 days and do your 4 day workout again?

[ty357]

do us all a favor and take ur avi down, lol -- everytime i see a post by u i get all down about the way i look--jk lookin stellar

lol you look good to mg

Damn Ty, you work out 4 days in a row with no rest? And then what you rest 3 days and do your 4 day workout again?

i work out 5 days straight monday - friday. i forgot to put arms on friday. i rest sat and sun.

[Okinawa_Power]

lol you look good to mg


i work out 5 days straight monday - friday. i forgot to put arms on friday. i rest sat and sun.

Rest???? Rest???? TWIN.....Rest is for the weak!!!!!! Only if your body tells you to rest...then you rest.....Get back in that gym!!!!!!

[goldtravel]

lol you look good to mg


i work out 5 days straight monday - friday. i forgot to put arms on friday. i rest sat and sun.

What's the arm routine look like?

[LiftedDuramax2007]

Rest???? Rest???? TWIN.....Rest is for the weak!!!!!! Only if your body tells you to rest...then you rest.....Get back in that gym!!!!!!

How do you know this though? I thought the general rule of thumb was to lift one day and rest the next day for repair of the CNS also?

I feel like Im a type that has fast recovery and "can" hit the gym everyday but Im not sure if Im over training or not

Sorry to hijack this thread but I figured itd be good info for anyone reading this thread too

[ty357]

What's the arm routine look like?

I do arm and tri's superset. 4set rope pull downs with 4 sets barbell curls. 4 sets over head ezbar extensions 4 sets dumbell curls. 4sets over head rope extensions 4 sets preacher curls. 4 sets reverse cable pull downs and 4 sets cable curls. I change my workouts every 30 days

[DaBullet]

Damb TY if only I was ripped like you I wouldnt be a virgin anymore!! hahahaha lol just kidding I think I still would be!! lmfao!!! But for reals man good work, cant wait to jump on my first cycle.

[CanYouDigIt]

tendons in your arms are starting to hurt, you talking about forearms? when you do any kind of curls? or just lift up a heavy dumbell?

[mg1228]

aint that alot of sets for bi and tris---thats 16 a piece--more sets than ur chest workout

hard to argue when u look like that---but still thats alot of sets for such a small muscle group--or am i wrong?

[ty357]

Damb TY if only I was ripped like you I wouldnt be a virgin anymore!! hahahaha lol just kidding I think I still would be!! lmfao!!! But for reals man good work, cant wait to jump on my first cycle.

lol thanks bro and thanks to the guys that been giving me advice along the way.

tendons in your arms are starting to hurt, you talking about forearms? when you do any kind of curls? or just lift up a heavy dumbell?

Ok its like this i curled and did some bent over rows heavier than i used to because i felt like mentally i could. the weight felt easy but the next morning the tendons in my arm were hurting like hell. you know directly in the middle of your arm in that crease where your arm fold. im feeling much better now tho

[lexruger]

this is definently a good thread ! it might show some of the newer people that you can get big without AAS and that hardwork and dedication can lead to results with proper diet and training

[Kiki]

Forearm pain sounds like tendonitis (sp?). I've had it before, along with friends. Lasted around a month and I had to take it easy sometimes. Eventually it just goes away.

[ty357]

aint that alot of sets for bi and tris---thats 16 a piece--more sets than ur chest workout

hard to argue when u look like that---but still thats alot of sets for such a small muscle group--or am i wrong?

wow i never new that. so i should cut down to how many sets?

this is definently a good thread ! it might show some of the newer people that you can get big without AAS and that hardwork and dedication can lead to results with proper diet and training

yes diet is the hard part but its the key. and to the newer people you could gain size with out aas. im a good example

Forearm pain sounds like tendonitis (sp?). I've had it before, along with friends. Lasted around a month and I had to take it easy sometimes. Eventually it just goes away.

as of now im not feeling anything. so thats a good thing

[ty357]

Guys i eat between 4500-6000 cals and 250-300g of protein a day a day is that enough for maintaining and keeping mass? being that i work and sometimes i dont get all my meals in. so whats the lease amount of cals and protein to maintain mass on a non active day?

[JasonT]

It's your bicep tendon ty...I have the same pain currently. I didn't give it enough rest and now it's a persistent thing. Be sure to listen to your body, pain is it's way of telling you to back off. Mine has gotten to a point where pullups hurt like hell (although lat pulldowns aren't that bad for some reason). I feel it more on rows/curls.

I've started hitting bis with back and tris with chest to give bis a longer recovery time. It helps a little.

[bjpennnn]

i would bump up the protien at leastt 300grams a day.

[mg1228]

ive always read 8-9 sets for arms--maybe some of the other guys can jump in here--imo u are overtraing at 16 sets each for bi and tris---i mean think about it--ur doin 15 sets for chest, alot bigger muscle

bump for advice

[ty357]

It's your bicep tendon ty...I have the same pain currently. I didn't give it enough rest and now it's a persistent thing. Be sure to listen to your body, pain is it's way of telling you to back off. Mine has gotten to a point where pullups hurt like hell (although lat pulldowns aren't that bad for some reason). I feel it more on rows/curls.

I've started hitting bis with back and tris with chest to give bis a longer recovery time. It helps a little.

your right it was my bicep tendon

i would bump up the protien at leastt 300grams a day.

ok bj will do. thanks

ive always read 8-9 sets for arms--maybe some of the other guys can jump in here--imo u are overtraing at 16 sets each for bi and tris---i mean think about it--ur doin 15 sets for chest, alot bigger muscle

bump for advice

i will agree with that as well

[ty357]

damn i jab my left quad for the 1st time monday and once again im limping lol. been going back in forth with delts because i dont feel no where near the soreness as the quads. sex drive is getting crazy. this is the last week of the dbol and i have no acne. oh also i would like to know can one day can i splurge and eat some pizza a lil junk food. looking at the food im eating every day is driving me crazy lol?

[mg1228]

hell yea u can splurge one day a week imo

[Mooseman33]

splurdge u big beast...

im sending u a PM....

[JasonT]

your right it was my bicep tendon

a good read if you have the time: http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/08/on-tendonitis/

[ty357]

hell yea u can splurge one day a week imo

Thank you man. ive been dying for some pizza hut with garlic bread lol

splurdge u big beast...

im sending u a PM....

ok moose

a good read if you have the time: http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/08/on-tendonitis/

excellent read bro thanks

[ty357]

a lil more pics. I could have posed better on the 1st pic and the 3rd pic i think the spread is wider than my previous back spread before.

[LiftedDuramax2007]

Jesus Ty, your back is a monster. I can only imagine where you will be at the end of your cycle.

What day are you on now? And are you feeling anything other than strength gains? Like something that tells yourself "yep its defintely kicking now"

[ty357]

Jesus Ty, your back is a monster. I can only imagine where you will be at the end of your cycle.

What day are you on now? And are you feeling anything other than strength gains? Like something that tells yourself "yep its defintely kicking now"

Thanks bro. yea strength is kicking in big time. i have more energy and i have more of a want to lift heavier. im currently on the last jab of the 4th week

[tripmachine]

wow man!!! awesome results and dedication to get to where you are.... very impressive!!! keep on going/growing! goood shit!